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Made in fi
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Helsinki, Finland

Hey there, so I m thinking about getting back to ogres, and few things that I m worried about is; can I include beastclaw raiders and gut busters in the same army? I have the first version of the generals handbook, and I noticed that theres an ally section at warscroll builder.

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Made in de
Experienced Maneater






Yes, you can when using allegiance DESTRUCTION (which you would use anyway unless you want pure Beastclaw).
Allies don't matter with a Grand Alliance allegiance unless you want to have Ironguts/Leadbelcher for Battleline (not really necessary).

   
Made in fi
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Helsinki, Finland

Ok thanks for reply

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Lieutenant General





Florence, KY

 Hanskrampf wrote:
Yes, you can when using allegiance DESTRUCTION (which you would use anyway unless you want pure Beastclaw).

However he can take allies in a 'pure' Beastclaw army and not lose their bonuses. The allies he can take include Aleguzzler Gargants, Firebellies, Gutbusters, Maneaters and Troggoths.

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cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Helsinki, Finland

So, does the allies not negate specific allegiance? And where does it say what allies I am allowed to take?

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 Spreelock wrote:
So, does the allies not negate specific allegiance? And where does it say what allies I am allowed to take?

Allegiances and allies are all in the General's Handbook 2017.
You can only take up to 20% of the total points in allies though, so 400 in a 2000 pts army. With Ogors, that's 1-2 units.

   
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Helsinki, Finland

Oh okay, I still got my first version of the handbook, might have to pick a new one . Btw, are the artefacts and rampage trait still in?

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 Spreelock wrote:
Oh okay, I still got my first version of the handbook, might have to pick a new one . Btw, are the artefacts and rampage trait still in?

Yes, but changed. Nerfed in most cases.

   
 
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