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I have several questions concerning Molech and what the Emperor brought with him from there. It seems like very little information is available and the only sources listed on Lexicanum are the Imperial knights codex and the novel vengeful spirit. From what i can gather the Emperor most certainly gained the information on how to create the primarchs there as well as some other benefits and/or knowledge. Some kind of bargain was struck and the four would name the Emperor "The Anathema" after these events.
As you can see this little summary of events is incredibly lose. Is there anything more we know about this? I feel like I'm missing alot. Please post any source you have to any relevant information
His pattern of returning alive after being declared dead occurred often enough during Cain's career that the Munitorum made a special ruling that Ciaphas Cain is to never be considered dead, despite evidence to the contrary.
The idea the emperor had to make a bargain with Chaos to create the primarchs/ gain knowledge and power is as old the primarchs themselves. It's also (like all things Emperor) vague and unexplained. The only thing we learned in Vengeful spirit is the location of the portal emps used.
Yeah but that would also set it in a certain point in time as well no? We know for instance that the Emperor created the Custodes and the Thunder warriors prior to the primarchs. That the Primarchs where the finished product of a long running project. We also know that he couldn't or wouldn't make more primarchs for whatever reason. Deciding it was easier to create 2.000.000 dudes instead of remaking his 20 ones. There's information to be gained here simply on when he acquired the info. prior to the creation of the thunder warriors? After?
His pattern of returning alive after being declared dead occurred often enough during Cain's career that the Munitorum made a special ruling that Ciaphas Cain is to never be considered dead, despite evidence to the contrary.
Nerak wrote: Yeah but that would also set it in a certain point in time as well no? We know for instance that the Emperor created the Custodes and the Thunder warriors prior to the primarchs. That the Primarchs where the finished product of a long running project. We also know that he couldn't or wouldn't make more primarchs for whatever reason. Deciding it was easier to create 2.000.000 dudes instead of remaking his 20 ones. There's information to be gained here simply on when he acquired the info. prior to the creation of the thunder warriors? After?
the only way it makes sense if if he did it sometime before the fall of the eldar, during the height of the dark age of technology
Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two
Hints but no solid facts. To make it worse, many of the hints come from the daemonic entities Horus encounters during his own trip through the portal so should be considered questionable at best.
Like the notion that the Emperor allowed the Primarchs to be scattered, this is one of those points I never expect to see confirmed in detail.
I stand between the darkness and the light. Between the candle and the star.
