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2018/05/17 11:08:01
Subject: SkyShield Landing Pad and Cover
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Does the skyshield landing pad count as being cover for units on top of it? I want to drop dev squads or havoc squads on top to get the 5++ but would appreciate it being cover for the 2+ save too. What do you guys think?
Cheers
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2018/05/17 12:11:56
Subject: SkyShield Landing Pad and Cover
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Norn Queen
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It's terrain. If a unit is in terrain they get cover. Outside of that basic rule what terrain rules are you playing with?
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These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
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2018/05/17 18:49:56
Subject: SkyShield Landing Pad and Cover
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Norn Queen
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ravenerioli wrote:Does the skyshield landing pad count as being cover for units on top of it? I want to drop dev squads or havoc squads on top to get the 5++ but would appreciate it being cover for the 2+ save too. What do you guys think? Cheers
You can't place friendly models on top of a Skyshield Landing Pad, it's just another model. It's not terrain unless it's been wrecked, as per the errata.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/05/17 18:51:14
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2018/05/17 20:13:46
Subject: SkyShield Landing Pad and Cover
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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BaconCatBug wrote:You can't place friendly models on top of a Skyshield Landing Pad, it's just another model. It's not terrain unless it's been wrecked, as per the errata.
While this may be technically correct, it is obviously wrong. The SLP gives benefit to models on top of it. Why would a model exist that you pay points to include that did absolutely nothing for your units and only helped the enemy?
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2018/05/17 22:23:23
Subject: SkyShield Landing Pad and Cover
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Regular Dakkanaut
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My point exactly guys, and building isn't in the terrain section of the rule book. It would come under 'decide the rules' with your opponent terrain which would be annoying as in a tournament
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2018/05/18 14:23:35
Subject: SkyShield Landing Pad and Cover
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Norn Queen
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Galef wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:You can't place friendly models on top of a Skyshield Landing Pad, it's just another model. It's not terrain unless it's been wrecked, as per the errata.
While this may be technically correct, it is obviously wrong. The SLP gives benefit to models on top of it. Why would a model exist that you pay points to include that did absolutely nothing for your units and only helped the enemy?
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Not my place to question "intent", the rules are clear. Do I like it? No, but disliking a rule doesn't change what it does.
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2018/05/18 16:25:09
Subject: SkyShield Landing Pad and Cover
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Perhaps not, but it is our place as players to see through the nonsense and play the rules as they make sense, rather than following them to such a degree that the intend is universally contradicted in the eyes of 99.99999999999999% of the player base. It's called using common sense. I have confidence in you to be able to try it out. You might like how it feels. As I said, something can be technically right, but obviously wrong. When given that choice, most of us would choose not to be obviously wrong. -
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2018/05/18 16:45:14
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2018/05/18 17:14:47
Subject: SkyShield Landing Pad and Cover
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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For better or for worse, common sense essentially doesn't exist. Or rather, there are 6 billion different versions of it; one for each person. This is why we need codified rules that make sense.
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2018/05/18 17:30:11
Subject: SkyShield Landing Pad and Cover
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Martel732 wrote:For better or for worse, common sense essentially doesn't exist. Or rather, there are 6 billion different versions of it; one for each person. This is why we need codified rules that make sense.
Agreed, I guess. My point for this particular issue is that I am not going to be told that I cannot put MY units on MY Landing Pad that I paid MY points to use. I find it hard to believe that any more than *10% of 40K players would feel differently. *90% shared opinion seems like common sense to me. *percentages used for illustration purposes only and are not meant to reflect any factually obtained data
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/05/18 17:38:43
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2018/05/18 17:50:26
Subject: SkyShield Landing Pad and Cover
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Galef wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:You can't place friendly models on top of a Skyshield Landing Pad, it's just another model. It's not terrain unless it's been wrecked, as per the errata.
While this may be technically correct, it is obviously wrong. The SLP gives benefit to models on top of it. Why would a model exist that you pay points to include that did absolutely nothing for your units and only helped the enemy?
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Do we need another thread where this model is discussed? Plenty of others. It obviously needs house-ruling to function. Let’s not go round and round on this one again!
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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2018/05/18 17:51:16
Subject: SkyShield Landing Pad and Cover
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Another case of GW writing a rules without considering all possible models in the game.
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2018/05/19 01:48:39
Subject: SkyShield Landing Pad and Cover
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I mean having a 2+ 5++ on a bunch of lascannon devs rerolling all misses and wound rolls of 1 is pretty brutal against any army, It's a pretty viable and simple option to play if it is cover, which is how I'd see it
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