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Made in us
Shas'la with Pulse Carbine





Across the Great Divide

I'm going to a GT soon and I am still debating between lists and I could use some competitively minded criticism.

1st List
Spoiler:

Bork'an battalion
Fireblade w/ puretide chip
Coldstar w/ 4 fusions and Onager

3x5 strike teams

Ghostkeel w/ SG and TL Burst cannons and ion raker
Ghostkeel w/ SG and TL Burst cannons and ion raker

2x5 pathfinders 3 ion rifles and pulse drone
1x5 pathfinders w/ grav drone

Bork'an Batallion
Fireblade
XV85 w/ 4 ions

3x5 strike team

2 missilesides w/ ats and 4 shield drones

Vior'la Vanguard
XV85 w/ 4 ions

1x6 stealth team 2 fuision suits w/ VT
2x3 stealth teams


2nd list
Spoiler:

T'au battalion
Fireblade w/ puretide chip
Darkstrider
Coldstar w/ 4 fusions and VMT or Onager

3x6 strike teams

Burstide w/ ATS and TL
Ghostkeel w/ SG and TL Burst cannons and ion raker

2x5 pathfinders 3 ion rifles and pulse drone
1x5 pathfinders

T'au Batallion
Fireblade
XV85 w/ 4 ions

2x6 strike teams
1x5 strike team

2 missilesides w/ ats and 4 shield drones

Vior'la Vanguard
XV85 w/ 4 ions

marksmen
2x3 stealth teams




A couple of notes. I won't be changing the commanders as I don't have the models for more coldstars and don't have the time to paint new ones. Also I only have the 1 normal riptide. Other than that I am open to any suggestions to improve. I have been playing a lot of Bork'an so that is what I defaulted to but I realize the strength of tau sept and I think darkstrider would pair quite well with the ion pathfinders and helps keep the fire warriors shooting as well. So please tear the lists apart and help me make them better. Thanks to all

Forest hunter sept ~3500
guardians of the covenant 4th company ~ 6000
Warrior based hive fleet

DA:90S+G++M++B--I+PW40k07+D++A++/areWD-R++T(T)DM+ 
   
Made in us
Focused Fire Warrior




NY

I like the look of them. Double ghostkeel didn't help me much when I ran a similar list (i had hammerheads instead of broadsides). They didn't die quickly by comparison to the rest but didn't accomplish much either.

Also, watch out for mortal wounds with the stealth suits. They seem like good durable infantry but I lost 3/6 from a unit in the opponents opening movement phase, I blocked the psychic phase from my memory.

I guess the lesson is if you don't want to lose don't get paired against eldar.
   
Made in us
Shas'la with Pulse Carbine





Across the Great Divide

I agree. After a few test games the ghostkeels just didn't put the damage in. So I am going to go with list 2. The benefits of Tau Sept ( overwatch and the strategem) have been better than the range from bork'an.

I think I'll still have problems with -1 to hit armies and custodes bikers. Any other thoughts on tactics or possible changes to list 2?

Forest hunter sept ~3500
guardians of the covenant 4th company ~ 6000
Warrior based hive fleet

DA:90S+G++M++B--I+PW40k07+D++A++/areWD-R++T(T)DM+ 
   
Made in gb
Fresh-Faced New User




this was your original list

Spoiler:
T'au battalion
Fireblade w/ puretide chip
Darkstrider
Coldstar w/ 4 fusions and VMT or Onager

3x6 strike teams

Burstide w/ ATS and TL
Ghostkeel w/ SG and TL Burst cannons and ion raker

2x5 pathfinders 3 ion rifles and pulse drone
1x5 pathfinders

T'au Batallion
Fireblade
XV85 w/ 4 ions

2x6 strike teams
1x5 strike team

2 missilesides w/ ats and 4 shield drones

Vior'la Vanguard
XV85 w/ 4 ions

marksmen
2x3 stealth teams


I would take out the Vior'la detachment. For the same price (i think haven't got codex in front of me) you can add in another missileside w/ ATS, and another shield drone squad. Also use a elite detachment as Sa'cea, put an ethereal and three firesight marksmen. this gives you access to the markerlight stratagem and three 3+ re-roll-able MKLs. You could then replace the XV85 with shadowsun and put a velocity tracker on the bursttide. Sacrifices mobility but gives you the option to do 2 turns of kauyon and CCN for the broadsides and riptide. The damage you miss out on with the commanders should be made back by the broadsides and this leaves you less vulnerable due to their range.

Also as a note I usually put the shield drones and separate units just for flexibility.

Edit: the ethereal can also buff the gunline as their abilities aren't sept specific

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/05/24 12:21:00


The tau do not believe in territorial gain and will often retreat, once the enemy is completely destroyed the the ground is for the taking.
shas'o swiftstrike- 6 year tau player 
   
Made in us
Shas'la with Pulse Carbine





Across the Great Divide

I don't like sacrificing mobility even with the shadoowsun buffs. I want to have the ability to grab far objectives and dropping the stealthsuits and commanders prevents that.

I have found that 3 BS 2+, 1 BS 3+ and 9 BS 4+ markers plus the strategem are enough to get the targets I need to 5 hits. I don't like the idea of getting rid of my stealthsuit screen for a couple more markers.

An ethereal would be nice to have but again my preference is the second fireblade so I can split my fire warriors and still have the extra shots.

Thanks for the advice though. I will keep it in mind for my last couple of prep games.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/05/24 13:11:11


Forest hunter sept ~3500
guardians of the covenant 4th company ~ 6000
Warrior based hive fleet

DA:90S+G++M++B--I+PW40k07+D++A++/areWD-R++T(T)DM+ 
   
 
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