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Hey guys so I'm looking to get a case for a friend. I myself have citidel cases a crusade and skirmish case for what it's worth. I like it and am pretty familiar with it. Also he plays Tau so he has big suits and such to transport too.

But I figured I'd come here to find out what other people have and if they'd recommend it over the GW brand of cases. And thanks in advance because he's currently using a carboad box lol

Kaiser Rushforth. No question at all.

Their foam is great and their selection of foam is great.

Their system is just the best. You buy the card cases with foam which are perfect for storage and when you travel you select the card cases you need and put them into one of the padded bags.

This makes expanding your army much easier than with other cases.



Also, some of their custom foam is genius. This one takes a Valkyrie, flyer stand, four tanks, four turrets, twenty infantry.

Agreed on the above, KR cases are brilliant, I have two of their soft backpacks - a 1 and a 2 slot - and just buy more card cases when I need additional storage, jot down which army or game is in which box for easy identification, and select the right ones for the event or game I want to play.

Another vote for KR from me, they work so much better than the GW foam for stuff like eldar tanks that arent either infantry or meltal boxes.

I prefer a steel cantilever tool box and neodymium magnets under the models' bases. The toolbox can be bought relatively cheaply, and the magnets are dirt cheap if you get them from the right place - there's several far eastern sellers on Amazon selling them for less than 1p per magnet. I also use some cheap chopped-up steel washers to 'space' the magnets so that they're as close to the surface I want them to attract as possible. For regular infantry plastic models a single 3mm dia magnet is plenty to hold it in place even if I tip the case about, hold it upside down, whatever. They're not moving. My metal Eldar models get two 5mm magnets a piece, and that holds them fine - even the heavier ones like Warp Spiders. I can pack them more tightly than I could if I was using a foam case (effectively base to base), the cantilever trays provide plenty of floor real estate to put models, and when I open up the case they're all immediately accessible (no having to move top foam trays out of the way etc.). Even held as firmly as they are, they're almost deceptively easy to pluck off the metal when you want to get one out. It's also one-size-fits-all; so long as you can get magnets underneath then it will go in this case unless it's especially big. There's no need to get the right shape of foam tray to match the model, no trying to make an awkwardly posed model fit into the rectangular hole, and no risk of foam rubbing at your paintjob.

The biggest downside is models that don't use a regular style base, and therefore don't have an easy way of hiding magnets underneath. So tanks or anything on the clear plastic flying stands are a bit trickier. I'm redoing my grav tanks and jetbikes to use the regular style bases anyway, so that's not an issue (partly to match the other models, and partly because I've cobbled together a sturdier base for the grav tanks that uses a regular 60mm base and a steel machine screw). I still need to figure out how I'm going to handle my Astartes tanks though, and may end up going the foam route for those. Any magnets would either need to be outside/underneath the tank, which I'm not keen on, or if I stuck them inside they'd be too far from the case to reliably hold it unless I used obscenely large magnets.

The fact that it's a steel case means that it durable and will protect the models if it takes some knocks, though I'm not sure how well the magnets would hold if the case took a really nasty impact. I guess it depends on how many magnets you use in the first place.

I got this toolbox from B&Q for £15ish, I think. Just some quick calculations based on the measurements, I could get 384 25mm based models, or 234 32mm based models in there, and that's without putting any of them walking up the walls. I photographed it standing on end to show that the models are actually magnetised to it, and that they're not going anywhere!



Anyway, that went on longer than I planned and I think I covered all the main advantages and disadvantages of the magnet route. If you're after foam though I agree with the other guys - KR is great.

 fraser1191 wrote:
I myself have citidel cases a crusade and skirmish case for what it's worth. I like it and am pretty familiar with it.

I've just ordered a Citadel Skirmish Case so it's good to hear you like yours.

I have a bunch of different cases.

Games Worskshop channel foam is the best for fiddly models like Eldar infantry, with all of their antennae and plumes. It holds them in an efficient manner and its not a nightmare to fit them in a slot or keep them from breaking. Games Workshop foam is not so good for large things like tanks, but it;s okay for dreadnoughts.

Magnetized shelves are best for rank upon rank of troops, especially if they have spears and flags. You do have to go through the extra bother of magnetizing their bases. I'm not sure there's any 40K army that I'd recommend a magnetized shelf for - maybe hordes of Tyranids?

KR and Battlefoam are pretty much equal. KR is more modular and bit handier with their boxes; Battlefoam has better bags. If I had to pick one I'd pick Battlefoam because their foam has a little more substance to it and can hold solidly-built models like Guard and Space Marine infantry well.

I use a mixture of pre-cut and pluck foam from both manufacturers. Pre-cut foam is usually the most efficient method, but if you have a very specific way you want to pack your models go with pluck foam. I like to pack my Space Marine squads all together, so I need one size of hole for the battle brothers, another size for the heavy weapons, and yet another size for the Sergeants - which is why I like the pluck foam.

The problem with pluck foam is that it is very inefficient because of the large wall between cells.

The issue you have with heavy weapons and sergeants is a battlefoam problem because their foam is so stiff. With KR foam being so much softer there is no problem with accommodating models that are a bit larger than the cell.

 Scott-S6 wrote:
The problem with pluck foam is that it is very inefficient because of the large wall between cells.

The issue you have with heavy weapons and sergeants is a battlefoam problem because their foam is so stiff. With KR foam being so much softer there is no problem with accommodating models that are a bit larger than the cell.

I own KR cases so I am well aware of the advantages and disadvantages of the product. If you try to cram a model that doesn't really fit into a cell it can break, especially if it has fiddly bits like the icon at the top of sergeant's flag pole. Likewise the softer foam is more likely to catch things like blades or sharp corners, which can make removing the models a challenge. It's not worse than Battlefoam, just different.

Pluck foam does have the advantage of tailoring to fit your models, and the thick walls make it better at grasping models with a uniform shape, such as most Space Marines and tanks. This can prevent shifting during transit. I find that for larger models pluck foam can actually be more efficient space-wise than pre-cut cells. Pre-cut is generally better but there are some advantages to pluck foam.

I find it's better to take pre-cut foam (not cut to to the model, just regular rectangular cells) and cut walls away. Lets you tailor to fit models but with less space wasted between models.

Thanks for all the recommendations, he likes the KR cases and foam.

Scott you seem pretty familiar with them, so if I buy the WH40K-TA-B, does it come with the carboard box too?

 fraser1191 wrote:
Thanks for all the recommendations, he likes the KR cases and foam.

Scott you seem pretty familiar with them, so if I buy the WH40K-TA-B, does it come with the carboard box too?

I did a quick look, and I do not believe so. KR usually has purchasing set up in tiers - you can buy just the foam, or just the box, or just the case, or, you can buy a case and select the option to get fillings for it at a discount.

https://www.krmulticase.com/product/traysets/WH40K-TA-B here is what you mentioned I believe, so that anyone more knowledgeable can correct me.

It looks like that one click bundle is one of their standard KRM boxes worth of goodies - its bundled up so that you don't need to individually pick things out.

https://www.krmulticase.com/product/cases/KRM

This is their standard case - it has several options - empty for 24 bucks, fill with standard trays for 48, and fill with custom trays for 62. Their site isn't the most user friendly, so you would want to select the option you want, most likely the Custom Trays one, and then it will take you to a new page where you have to search for the cardboard box again. In the drop-down menu select "card cases" under the type and "standard" under the size and it should bring it back up.

Then select the box, and the main body section will let you select your options. I believe you have to type in the trays you want individually. I suppose word of advice, it might be a better value for your dollar to buy 2 boxes - one with custom trays and one with standard trays. Why? It goes back to the confusion of their site.

F, N, M, P, Q, R, V, D, J, 0 and E are all "standard" trays, while anything else is custom. Your one click bundle has 2 custom trays and 2 standard ones:

https://www.krmulticase.com/product/trays/TA27?m=GW&s=WH40K&a=TA
https://www.krmulticase.com//product/trays/TA5
https://www.krmulticase.com//product/trays/N4H x2

That is a nice discount if you are just buying the trays, but if you are buying a filled box, you NEED to select "custom", and at that point, might as well pick another Tau specific one (I believe the "T" series?). So if you buy 1 Custom box with 3-4 specific Tau bits, and then a standard box just loaded with generic trays, your friend can mix and match as he or she pleases.

Someone please correct me if I am wrong on all of this.

The one disadvantage of KR is having to navigate their website. Anyone who can figure than out is a smarter man than me.

 Saber wrote:
The one disadvantage of KR is having to navigate their website. Anyone who can figure than out is a smarter man than me.

It is a little cryptic. On the other hand, just fire them off an email, they are usually quick to respond and very helpfull.

 Saber wrote:
The one disadvantage of KR is having to navigate their website. Anyone who can figure than out is a smarter man than me.

I love KR Multicase's foam for my old GW figure cases, however I do agree that their website is hot garbage.

It allows me to also fit in 4 trays instead of the standard 3 trays that the GW case gives you. The case has a lot of wasted space from the factory, and KR's foam just makes better use if it. Only way I can fit over 100 Marines, 2 Dreads, 1 Razorback and 4 Rhinos into that old GW case. There is also enough room in the case between the foam and the angled sides to fit in a tape measure, 80 dice, the Maelstrom cards and 6 objective markers.

I like being able to just grab my books and case, knowing every thing I need is in there.

Kurhanik is correct - that is just a tray set.

It tells you that's 1 KRU so it will fill one standard cardboard case. So, if those are the trays you want then go to the cardboard cases, select custom and list those trays.

As kurhanik pointed out you pay the higher price for custom foam even if only one of the trays is custom so if you're ordering multiple cases try and consolidate all of the custom trays even if that's not how you plan on keeping them.

The site is not the most helpful but the folks there are - if you send them a list of models they'll sort a list of trays for you.

Yeah navigating the website is a nightmare but I figured it out in the end.

They seem like really nice cases, I might pick some up for more troublesome units like drop pods and and my knights.

Well maybe not the drop pod, I'm not really using that right now lol

I have both the Skirmish and Crusade case from Citadel/GW. The foam on the sides of each tray isn't always stuck down as well as it should be, and I haven't taken the time to stick them down. But, I figure some hot glue or some foam adhesive should fix them if I really need it.

Two things I really like about the Citadel/GW cases (and I actually did a lot of research on cases from GW, Battlefoam, and KR before I bought these):

1) Versatility - The foam can be shaped the way you want it. You can turn it to lay it down on its side so that it can fit large models like Imperial Knights and I believe Baneblades (and variants). You can take the top layer of foam off a section to make room for these large models. You can spread the foam apart to fit Dreadnoughts, Rhinos, Land Raiders, Venoms, etc. You can use an entire tray just for infantry or that same tray for vehicles.

2) Swapability (for lack of a better word) - Not only are the Citadel cases made to allow you to fit (sometimes tough at times) many, many different kinds of models, you also use any of the foam from any of their current cases in any of their other current cases. If I had put everything together for a game of Shadespire in my Skirmish case and then wanted to take that same already packed Shadespire foam and put it in the Crusade case, you just swap the foam. And, then you could pack another entire AoS or 40K army in it as well.

Yes, the cases are expensive. And, yes, I do love the idea of being able to carry more than the Crusade case can carry (especially when it comes to 2000 point armies with Monstrous Creatures or Heavy to Super Heavy vehicles), these cases have served me very well so far. There are a couple of lower end cases I would like to try. Would also love to try Battlefoam or KR (though KR is a bit more expensive here in the States). But, until I find an actual need for a new case, I can't justify buying one because the Citadel Skirmish and Crusade case do everything I need.

SG

I've used a lot of types of cases, and I'd like to echo the magnets + steel toolbox approach.

It takes maybe 30 seconds to super glue a magnet on the bottom of a base. With most of GW's line being plastic now, models are a lot lighter and work better with magnets. Also, spikey bits and flags and banners and spears/staffs/etc can easily break in foam that's not cut exactly to its size.

If you're playing, say, pewter sisters, foam is the easiest and probably best choice. If you're playing a plastic army that doesn't neatly fit into a rectangle, go for magnets. What you pay for in actual magnets you'll more than easily save in the toolbox itself.

That being said, if you have a lot of models without bases (like flyers), foam will be a better option. Foam might also be a better option if travelling by air with your army. While magnets on steel is more than adequate for road travel, the bumps and possible vertical forces of going through an airport and travelling through the sky will likely dislodge some/all of your models.

Well FWIW I kinda got excited for KR because of this thread and picked cases and foams etc for all my armies. In the end I had well over 500€ worth of items in my basket.

So yeah, I don't consider Citadel cases that expensive any more.

Whoa, KR, good to hear of them, will definitely have to pick up one for my ever growing motorpool!

 Weazel wrote:
Well FWIW I kinda got excited for KR because of this thread and picked cases and foams etc for all my armies. In the end I had well over 500€ worth of items in my basket.

So yeah, I don't consider Citadel cases that expensive any more.

Make sure you don't buy the foams seperately from the cases, you can buy filled cases for less than the individual foams.

 Bellerophon wrote:
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That's great

I also vote KR. I've only used GW and KR myself but out of the two I have been most impressed with the KR products and am quite disappointed with the GW offerings I have used.

 roflmajog wrote:

 Weazel wrote:
Well FWIW I kinda got excited for KR because of this thread and picked cases and foams etc for all my armies. In the end I had well over 500€ worth of items in my basket.

So yeah, I don't consider Citadel cases that expensive any more.

Make sure you don't buy the foams seperately from the cases, you can buy filled cases for less than the individual foams.

Okay maybe I just don't know how to use their site then.

Pick a case, type in the trays you want.

Don't buy empty cases and foam separately.

Yet another for KR.
Pick and pluck works well for odd models, like the Wall of Maytyrs trenches and bunker:

There is room on top for a tray of 40 Guardsmen or similar.

As mentioned, get the case when you get the foam.
KR often do offers where you can get custom foam for the price of standard, or 2-for-1 boxes. Or sometimes, get a bag for less if you buy the boxes to go in it.
So, if you have a show near you, look for the offers they have on there.

 Weazel wrote:
In the end I had well over 500€ worth of items in my basket.

Wow, I thought my $40 order of 250 magnets was expensive.

One option that I haven't seen is the company Feldherr. They do pretty good foam, and you can even buy it through Amazon, which makes life really easy. Plus, you can buy decent sized carry cases for decent prices

 Bellerophon wrote:
I still need to figure out how I'm going to handle my Astartes tanks though, and may end up going the foam route for those. Any magnets would either need to be outside/underneath the tank, which I'm not keen on, or if I stuck them inside they'd be too far from the case to reliably hold it unless I used obscenely large magnets.

Put the magnets in the tracks - you won't see them anyway. If you're worried about them ripping loose, glue them to the inside of the track pieces, positioned between the road wheels (if you're using Rhino chassis).

Glue them inside and make a block with magnets on top and bottom to sit the tank on in your toolbox.