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Hello, this is my second approach to the Warhammer 40k.
In my first approach, I chose tyranidars but with time I decided that this army requires too many models, this time I am looking for something smaller, could you advise me something? For now i have 150euro to spend.

I believe Adeptus Custodes have the smallest model count.

Alternatively, Space Marines or Chaos Space Marines could work if you invest in some of the more expensive units (Primaris Space Marines or Cult Chaos Space Marines).

You could also look at unorthodox lists, such as several spearhead detachments. You could buy some Leman Russ Battle Tanks. My friend plays with an all-tank Imperial Guard force, though I don't know how competitive it is and recently he's been getting bored of sitting in the corner and shooting.

Well, most armies offer a playstyle with less models.

As you come from playing Tyranids, you probably know you can play them as a bunch of monsters (which cost way more than 150€ though).
Other armies offer similar options, where you can play Guard as a bunch of tanks, Tau as a bunch of big mechas and so on.

These are usually not the most competetive builds though.

 Kharneth wrote:
I believe Adeptus Custodes have the smallest model count.

Alternatively, Space Marines or Chaos Space Marines could work if you invest in some of the more expensive units (Primaris Space Marines or Cult Chaos Space Marines).

You could also look at unorthodox lists, such as several spearhead detachments. You could buy some Leman Russ Battle Tanks. My friend plays with an all-tank Imperial Guard force, though I don't know how competitive it is and recently he's been getting bored of sitting in the corner and shooting.

If he is tired of sitting in corner try tallarn for some blitzkrieg?

tneva82 wrote:

 Kharneth wrote:
I believe Adeptus Custodes have the smallest model count.

Alternatively, Space Marines or Chaos Space Marines could work if you invest in some of the more expensive units (Primaris Space Marines or Cult Chaos Space Marines).

You could also look at unorthodox lists, such as several spearhead detachments. You could buy some Leman Russ Battle Tanks. My friend plays with an all-tank Imperial Guard force, though I don't know how competitive it is and recently he's been getting bored of sitting in the corner and shooting.

If he is tired of sitting in corner try tallarn for some blitzkrieg?

The only blitzkrieg that we have room for is mine! All my 'zerkers yellin' at the Rhino driver "Can't this go any faster?????"

And what do you think about Craftworlds or Thousand Sons ?

I know nothing of craftworlds, but I imagine Eldar has a decent model count. Cheap-moderate priced infantry (I think) and average vehicles. A mechanized list might not have a huge model count. I don't think you can make a sizable army with only 150 euros, though. You can certainly start something and play smallish games.

Thousands Sons are cult marines. They're nice and expensive, though my buddy who plays them has a swarm of minis he uses. Zhangors must be cheap because he fields a lot of models.

My World Eaters army has a relatively low model count:

24 Zerkers
2 characters
demon prince
3 rhinos
1 blood slaughterer (expensive $)
1 predator
bloodthirster
50 bloodletters

In terms of model-count, the bloodletters are like half of my army. Ignoring the cheap demons, you can make a pretty elite Chaos Space Marine army, especially if you take monsters and terminators.

3 Rubric Marine units
Demon Prince or 2, or a sorcerer
5 terminators, maybe with a terminator lord/sorcerer
Changer of Ways? idk
More expensive stuff like Predators or powerful vehicles, perhaps a Heldrake

I don't know Thousand Sons, but I'm assuming they have expensive options like vanilla CSM.

I understand that I could write it a little better. I have 150e at this moment. I will be expanding armies, but I just want to know my options for armies that do not have a lot of models.

Low Model Count Armies:

Space Marines (if you take the more expensive, elite options)
Grey Knights (though they aren't performing well currently)
Astra Militarum (if you play mechanized and heavy tanks)
Adeptus Custodes
Adeptus Mechanicus (if you play with the big walkers, etc. My friend's 1k list has like 10 models on the field)
Chaos Space Marines (if you play cult marines and ignore the cheap stuff, like cultists. This includes Death Guard and Thousand Sons, though Chaos can easily become swarmy)
T'au Empire (battlesuit army and/or tank-heavy)
Tyranid (Nidzilla list, though you're clearly not interested in this)

I'd avoid Orks. I don't think Necron could be low model count, unsure. No idea about Eldar, though I wouldn't bet on it. Avoid Demons, they're pretty cheap. Between Space Marines and Chaos Space Marines, you're looking at half the game lol.

The army that will be the easiest and lowest model count will be Adeptus Custodes with Grey Knights not far behind.

Necrons can have a low model count. Throw a monolith into a 1000pt army and that is nigh on 50% of your points. Forgoe warriors for Immortals as troops and it gets even worse.

 NoiseMarine with Tinnitus wrote:
Necrons can have a low model count. Throw a monolith into a 1000pt army and that is nigh on 50% of your points. Forgoe warriors for Immortals as troops and it gets even worse.

Monolith sucks, but between Immortals, Wraiths, and Destroyers Necrons do the "hyper-elite foot sloggers" better than any other faction, I think.

Yea. Basically, its easy to have a low model count army by taking larger more elite models and vehicles / monsters. I play a fairly elite CSM warband, and Mechanized Craftworld Eldar. Here are my model counts for my take all comers 1500 point lists.

1500 points.
Emperor's Children : 33 Models
16 Noise Marines
5 Raptors
4 Bikes
3 Obliterators
1 Spawn
1 Rhino
1 Defiler
1 Daemon Prince
1 Sorcerer
1 Lord

Eldar : 37 models
12 Dire Avengers
10 Fire Dragons
7 Rangers
2 Wave Serpents
2 Falcons
1 War Walker
1 Farseer
1 Warlock
1 Autarch

Both of these armies are fairly low model count and elite. There are armies that have far lower model counts than I do of course.

Many armies can be built elite. However since this is a games workshop most armies are very expensive to collect! But basically, any faction with an elite basic trooper will end up with a pretty elite force. Just be forewarned. Its a tougher road to hoe, since the game right now tends to favor large numbers of cheap wounds. Hordes definitely are in a better place than elite armies, although that hasn't stopped me from having a good time and doing well in my own meta.

OP, what is your reasoning behind a low model count?

Some people like a low model count because it's less to paint, however, I've noticed that replacing a 5-10 man squad of guys for a vehicle or monster doesn't save much time painting. I have some big beasts in my army and they are the most annoying to paint. That's just me, though.

Kharneth makes a good question.

For painting my venerable Dread I take the same time than for painting 4 intercessor. Big minis needs lots of time for painting them or they look likes....ejemm, you know.

Start collecting boxes are good options for save money and gives you a good start.

NibyTakiZwierz wrote:
Hello, this is my second approach to the Warhammer 40k.
In my first approach, I chose tyranidars but with time I decided that this army requires too many models, this time I am looking for something smaller, could you advise me something? For now i have 150euro to spend.

I would take your money and look on Ebay until an army that you like in your budget is available, and just buy and use that. There are some great deals on ebay sometimes, you just have to look

Really depends on how you wanna go about your army. A lot of people prefer the "take what you can get" approach and just buy models that come with good deals. If you just wanna jump into a game and not care about min-maxing, then see if you can find someone willing to split one of the "starter" boxes with you (like Dark Imperium, one of the HH sets, any of the older starters if you can find them, and so forth). If you just go to shops you'd be surprised how many people are willing to do that on the spot (although bring cash, for easy splitting). The downside with this is, of course, you will end up with units that the internet considered suboptimal or you later find you just plain don't like for some reason.

If you prefer building your army to specifics, then I'd suggest doing some research on your own first. There are plenty of tactics sites up that can give you a decent overview of each army and even units before you even touch a codex. Just be careful of sites run by sensationalist idiots; if you see them using the term "god-tier" or "absolute trash", then they might not be the most objective of the lot. Once that's done, Pick up the codex and work out the units you'd want, and then buy them whenever they turn up for a good deal in local ads or online. Note that while the prices for individual units will probably be higher than you buying them in a lot, you save money in the long run by not paying for stuff you don't want or need.

Thank you for your help . Now I know how to clarify my questions to you.
Why does he want a small army? I like the concept of going to a point and leaving some ordinary units to hold it and support it with the help of, for example, Dreadnought. I also assume that the smaller the army, the less painting, to be honest I am sucking in it.
As for the appearance of individuals who I like, I am inclined to the chaos of space marins, eldars or tau empire. I like units that are less human in appearance.
My preferred tactic would be to take one point and secure it and send another unit to attack the enemy's back.
I read various threads on forums and try to find answers to my questions there. But I also wanted to hear if any of you have experience with such tactics (army with fewer units, not for example as orcs) and which armies would be good in it.

In terms of high mobility, low model count, custodes might actually be the better choice (although they are not exactly inhuman in appearance).

Alternatively you can try to play a fringe army like I do and take either a spearhead, vanguard or outrider detachment. I'm running "dreadnought" armies (one is a SM dreadnought army with a Chaplain Dread in HQ and the rest being a combination of Ven Dreads and normal dreads, the other is an Eldar Dread army with a Wraithseer in HQ and 3 Wraithlords). Just note that you won't be winning any tournaments, but against the beer and pretzel crowd you shouldn't do too badly.

 xeen wrote:

NibyTakiZwierz wrote:
Hello, this is my second approach to the Warhammer 40k.
In my first approach, I chose tyranidars but with time I decided that this army requires too many models, this time I am looking for something smaller, could you advise me something? For now i have 150euro to spend.

I would take your money and look on Ebay until an army that you like in your budget is available, and just buy and use that. There are some great deals on ebay sometimes, you just have to look

This.

ebay lots of boxset plastics.
best bet is nurgle.
lots of plastic cultists from old box sets.
lots of foetid bloat drones out there.
lots of nurgle marines.
add traitor marines from the 30k boxset.