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Hi I was after some advice on my 30k salamanders lists as I am very new to the format and warhammer in general. The group of friends I play with tend to to favour having armoured or tank based units - which I’m aware may be a problem, but the joys of playing salamanders! I’d appreciate any constructive feed back thanks in advance. (I’ve put together a 2000 and 4000 points lists and am working on my 3000 list)

++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [2000pts] ++

+ HQ +

Primus Medicae [110pts]: Chainsword or Combat Blade, Inferno Pistol (Salamanders), On Foot, Power Armour (Centurion/Consul)
. Consul: Primus Medicae

Xiaphas Jurr [145pts]

+ Elites +

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [175pts]
. Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon, Twin-linked Heavy Flamer (Salamanders)

Firedrake Terminator Squad [350pts]: 4x Dragonscale Storm Shield, 4x Firedrakes, 4x Thunder Hammer
. Firedrake Master: Dragonscale Storm Shield, Master-crafted Thunder Hammer

+ Troops +

Tactical Squad, Legion [125pts]: 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion
. Additional Wargear: Bolters
. Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Bolter

Tactical Squad, Legion [125pts]: 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion
. Additional Wargear: Bolters
. Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Bolter

Tactical Support Squad, Legion Flamer [145pts]: Flamer, 4x Space Marines, Legion, Support Squad
. Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion: Heavy Flamer
. Sergeant, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Flamer

+ Fast Attack +

Storm Eagle Assault Gunship, Legion [245pts]: Hellstrike Missiles x 4, Twin-linked Multi-Melta, Vengeance Launcher

+ Heavy Support +

Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [290pts]
. Leviathan Siege Dreadnought: Cyclonic Melta Lance, Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Leviathan Siege Claw

Predator Strike Armoured Squadron, Legion [130pts]
. Predator Tank, Legion: Heavy Flamer, Magna-Melta Cannon

Pyroclast Squad [160pts]: 4x Pyroclast

+ Allegiance +

and Allegiance, Legion: XVIII: Salamanders, Loyalist

++ Total: [2000pts] ++

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++ Crusade (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [4000pts] ++

+ HQ +

Lord Chaplain Nomus Rhy'tan [215pts]

Primus Medicae [135pts]: Inferno Pistol (Salamanders), On Foot, Power Armour (Centurion/Consul)
. Consul: Primus Medicae
. Thunder Hammer: Thunder Hammer

+ Elites +

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [350pts]
. Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon, Twin-linked Heavy Flamer (Salamanders)
. Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon, Twin-linked Heavy Flamer (Salamanders)

Firedrake Terminator Squad [985pts]: 9x Dragonscale Storm Shield, 9x Firedrakes, 9x Thunder Hammer
. Firedrake Master: Dragonscale Storm Shield, Master-crafted Thunder Hammer
. Spartan Assault Tank, Legion: Flare Shield, Heavy Flamer, Quad Lascannon Sponsons, Twin-linked Heavy Flamer

+ Troops +

Pyroclast Squad [285pts]: 9x Pyroclast

Tactical Squad, Legion [125pts]: 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion
. Additional Wargear: Bolters
. Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Bolter

Tactical Squad, Legion [125pts]: 9x Tactical Space Marines, Legion
. Additional Wargear: Bolters
. Tactical Sergeant, Legion: Bolter

Tactical Support Squad, Legion Flamer [220pts]: Flamer, 9x Space Marines, Legion, Support Squad
. Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion: Heavy Flamer
. Sergeant, Legion: Bolt Pistol, Flamer

+ Fast Attack +

Storm Eagle Assault Gunship, Legion [225pts]: Tempest Rockets x 4, Twin-linked Multi-Melta, Vengeance Launcher

+ Heavy Support +

Heavy Support Squad, Legion Heavy Flamer [180pts]: Heavy Flamer, 4x Space Marines, Legion
. Rhino Armoured Carrier, Legion: Heavy Flamer

Leviathan Siege Dreadnought Talon [310pts]
. Leviathan Siege Dreadnought: Cyclonic Melta Lance, Grav-flux Bombard, Heavy Flamer, Heavy Flamer

Predator Strike Armoured Squadron, Legion [420pts]
. Predator Tank, Legion: Heavy Flamer Sponsons, Magna-Melta Cannon
. Predator Tank, Legion: Heavy Flamer Sponsons, Magna-Melta Cannon
. Predator Tank, Legion: Heavy Flamer Sponsons, Magna-Melta Cannon

+ Allegiance +

and Allegiance, Legion: XVIII: Salamanders, Loyalist

Rite of War: The Covenant of Fire

+ Lords of War +

Vulkan [425pts]: The Furnace's Heart

++ Total: [4000pts] ++

I'd suggest finding yourself more Troops (only Troops get to hold objectives in 30k, if the scenario requires you to hold some objectives and you put down a bare-minimum Troops commitment your opponent just has to kill all your Troops and you can't win.) and more fast units/long-ranged weapons (a flamer-armed Contemptor walking out of your deployment zone could take a long time to get close enough to attack if your opponent deploys a ways back or just walks away from it).

How many of these models do you have at this point?

Also I would either make the tactical squad 15+ guys or put them in rhinos. A naked tactical squad will get shot of the table way to quickly.

Your armies definitely have a mobility problem, most things will walk to your opponent.
Another thing to keep in mind, is that if your spartan gets blocked/taken down, your opponent will run around them and it will be hard to get their points worth.

Fire Drakes require a ride as do Pyros. I agree basically all points above.

Either more troops or troops in Rhinos and at least Land Raiders for Drakes and Pyros.