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I just thought I'd make another Ork wish thread to get an idea of what people would more likely want in the ork community when it comes to models. Honestly, for me, I have no interest in Ghaz at all (I love his character though) because I'm not a goff Ork player. I play Evil Sunz (or freebooters depending on what I bring) so Ghaz would never be able to be part of my army unless they make him a Super Heavy rather than a HQ. This, for all none Ork players, would be like me having Dark Angels and then bringing Ultra Blue Pants Gullysuitman along with me as the leader of the Dark Angels and also he is a hq slot so I can't even bring him anyway. In a way Ghaz can lead any warband he wants but right now (with his goff keyword and hq designation) I have no interest in him unless they just removed his klan keyword.

However, being a speed freak, buggies would be awesome editions to my army. And, overall, would work inany klan without worrying if it can even fit or not.

But what do you guys think we should (not what you want) get when it comes to new ork models?

How about both?! I want my cake and eat it.

New Ghazzy but make him a LOW and don't tie him to a specific clan. Buggies ad Trakks are a must given the age of those kits.

I'm also an Evil Sunz player so definitely biased.

I think we need to be able to make our HQ options without kit bashing. I would also like our finecast stuff replaced.

So not much :-)

My ork collection is all over the place. Bad Moons shoota boyz. Death Skulls Lootaz. Red Trukks. Looted Vehicles in different Clan colors. Snake Bite Wyrd Boyz. A Nob in every clan color. My MA Warboss is a converted Ghaz so, if Ghaz gets a new model, then its a good thing. We desperately need official HQ models in the new age of 8th or half my army will still be Index.

I would like to narrow down to 2 clans though. One for the shooty boyz, and one for the Choppy boyz.

I would only have to repaint some Dagz, Glyphs and Plates.

I'd also prefer ro get more updated or new units rather than characters. Characters are more fun to convert anyways. My wishes:

Ard Boys-preferably with an actual kit.
Guntrukk. I imagine it to be a truk with like two cannons or maybe 6 big shootas
Some ork tank that is not a transport.
Kamikaze squigs, they fly, they're fast, The blow up.
New buggies, because those models are too outdated

Ghazghkull had Orks from all Klanz in his Waaagh, I wouldn't say he's that restricted on Goffs. And man, we need a new Ghazzy as much as we need a new Abby, those are the two greatest badasses in 40K - with 3rd edition models making them smaller than their bodyguard .

Also, tankbusters and kommandoz need a plastic kit, nobody likes failcast...

I want to see a dedicated tank, as in no transport capability and armed with effective weapons. I'd also like the stompa to be rewritten so it's not an auto lose button. I play a largely shooty dethskull/badmoon tribe of freebooters, so any buffs to our dakka would be great.

I hope they dont do another big monstrous walker. They already added the Gorkanaught/Morkanaught. And there are already deff dreads and killa kans and a stompa. That should be enough units for a solid dread mob list if they justupdated the rules a bit and made them a bit cheaper.

But the Speed Freak lists need more outfitting. Buggie models are sorely outdated and most definitely will be updated, and I'd imagine they will make a right-proper deffkopta kit instead of the one that came with the starter box.

I'll take both but I sorely want an updated ghaz model. He's severely undersized. Also both in fluff and in crunch Ghazzy runs all klanz in his army.

More vehicles. Always wanted a Kult Of Speed army.

Ghaz Is a Goff, but his WAAAGH has all klans in it, so I think its def fluffy to make him a LOW and able to have all klans in his army. Im totally down for a Mortarion sized Ghazzy model though.

However I do agree with you that we need new buggy models (and wartrak models) so hopefully we get some updates there. I really hope they make all types of ork lists viable (footslog/greentide, speed freeks, mechanized, dreadmob/walkers etc) even if none of them are "top tier"


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malcontent999 wrote:
I want to see a dedicated tank, as in no transport capability and armed with effective weapons. I'd also like the stompa to be rewritten so it's not an auto lose button. I play a largely shooty dethskull/badmoon tribe of freebooters, so any buffs to our dakka would be great.

This would also be fantastic. The stompa definitely needs a rework. Imo it needs atleast a 200 point drop and double the shots on the main gun (or some kind of targeting system/grot gunners that makes it BS4)

Size wise Ghaz should not be bigger than Guilliman.

The daemon primarchs are ridiculously oversized.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Ghazghkull had Orks from all Klanz in his Waaagh, I wouldn't say he's that restricted on Goffs. And man, we need a new Ghazzy as much as we need a new Abby, those are the two greatest badasses in 40K - with 3rd edition models making them smaller than their bodyguard .

Also, tankbusters and kommandoz need a plastic kit, nobody likes failcast...

Tell thT too the gw rule writers who restricted his abilities to the goff keyword XD

 Marmatag wrote:
Size wise Ghaz should not be bigger than Guilliman.

The daemon primarchs are ridiculously oversized.

Hmm, too be honest I havnt seen any of the Primarch models in person, I just assumed Ghazzy was humongeous now with all the WAAAGH powers swirling about him now. He definitely need to be bigger than his current model though, I think we can all agree on that

 Icculus wrote:
I hope they dont do another big monstrous walker. They already added the Gorkanaught/Morkanaught. And there are already deff dreads and killa kans and a stompa. That should be enough units for a solid dread mob list if they justupdated the rules a bit and made them a bit cheaper.

But the Speed Freak lists need more outfitting. Buggie models are sorely outdated and most definitely will be updated, and I'd imagine they will make a right-proper deffkopta kit instead of the one that came with the starter box.

^^^^This.

We need a Warboss on Bike kit (with official "how to make Painboy/Mek on bike" instructions) a basic Big Mek kit, and a walking Warboss kit.

TBH, I'd be most excited for a Leaders of Da Waagh pack with warboss, weirdboy, Waaagh banner nob, and Big Mek in it ala the SM Command Squad/IG Command Squad/etc kit. Lots of bits, lots of options, less price because you have to buy them all together.

I honestly disagree. Buggies do need a new model, I'll warrant, but they're not terribly good. Rokkit buggies are generally worse than deffkoptas, in my opinion, skorchas are ok, ish, but can't really get the drop on anything because they have to outflank out of range of their weapon.

Ghaz, on the other hand, is an absolute monster on the tabletop.

So, I mean, I'd rather have one, single model for a badass unit than have to buy a bunch of new ones for a kind of crappy one.

I suppose buggies could become awesome in the new codex and have an awesome new model. But based on what we know now, I'd prefer a new ghaz model, personally.

Rules come and go, models are inmortal.

Never chose good rules over a good model.

 Marmatag wrote:
Size wise Ghaz should not be bigger than Guilliman.

The daemon primarchs are ridiculously oversized.

Rubbish! Ghaz should be giganormous!

I'm not sure why you think he shouldn't be any bigger than Girlyman since the Beast (who he is basically a foil for) was the size of a Stompa and his lieutenants were the size of Hab Blocks?

He should be at least Dreadnought size, if not bigger.

Also rule of cool > realism.

I couldn't care less about named characters. Wouldn't shed a tear if every single one got squatted.

Gimme new buggies, koptas, ard boyz, kommandos, anything really.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:

 Marmatag wrote:
Size wise Ghaz should not be bigger than Guilliman.

The daemon primarchs are ridiculously oversized.

Rubbish! Ghaz should be giganormous!

I'm not sure why you think he shouldn't be any bigger than Girlyman since the Beast (who he is basically a foil for) was the size of a Stompa and his lieutenants were the size of Hab Blocks?

He should be at least Dreadnought size, if not bigger.

Also rule of cool > realism.

Agreed! I could see him not being as tall as Mortarion or Magnus, but he should definitely be bulkier due to the MA

I don't play with named characters. I think a new Ghazzy model would be cool, but a warbuggy/wartrakk/deffkopta multi-kit is what we need more than anything IMO.

As far as Ghaz and keywords go, I hope we get a "Warlord" stratagem similar to the Space Marine Chapter Master stratagem. It would allow us to upgrade a warboss to a warlord, which would make his abilities work for any Ork model and not just his own clan.

I would be happy with tons of kitbashing articles for Orks basically as much as new models. If the wait for the codex was due to them coming up with instructions on how to make a painboy on bike, loot a Leman Russ, etc., then I think it would be well worth the wait. Of course I don't want the instructions as much as the official rules that would come with them.

Agreed on all points, but I dont see why we should only hope for one

 Marmatag wrote:
Size wise Ghaz should not be bigger than Guilliman.

The daemon primarchs are ridiculously oversized.

Warbosses in mega armor are often the size of dreadnoughts in the books. I'm not talking about the biggest, baddest warlords like Ghazghkull or Snagrod, I'm talking about orks a step below them.

Ghazzy should be the size of a Leviathan dreadnought. That's assuming he isn't a Primeork, in which case he should be even bigger.

I've said this before but a good buggy kit (ideally like the sketch in IA8) and I'll be making a kult of speed.

If we're wishlisting then I want a lot.

Buggy/Trakk/Kopta multi-kit

Kommandoz/Tankbustaz multi-kit

Skarboyz/Hardboyz multi-kit

Big Gunz kit with multiples of each Big Gun and both gun carraiges and vehicle mounts (so that we can make things like gun trukks).

Runts and Squigs box that repackages the current gretchin box with a bunch more grots, the parts to turn them into specialists like Grot Oilers, and some Squigs that can be turned into bomb squigs or attack squigs (which could be their own Fast Attack choice). Maybe some snotlings too.

An HQ pack with the parts to build all sorts of different characters, including versions on bikes.

A feral ork/ork yoof multi-kit. Smaller orks that can be built to either represent primitive orks on a backwater or young, poor orks fresh out of the ground.

A plastic squiggoth that looks better than the Forge World squiggoth (note that I'm not talking about the Gargantuan Squiggoth, which looks great IMO).

A plastic mega-armored warboss.

A plastic weirdboy.

A new Ghazzy/generic Primeork kit.

An ork tank like a gunwagon that has the option of being built as a dedicated transport that's heavier and tougher than a trukk, and an option to build it with more dakka but no transport capacity in which case it can be taken in squadrons as Heavy Support.

Upgrade sprues for the trukk, stompa and orkonauts.

Bully Boyz, which would be a 1-3 HQ unit of Orks in between a nob and a warboss. Maybe make the kit so it can also be assembled as a weirdboy, painboy, banner nob or other characters in mega armor.

A big looting kit for looting other armies vehicles. Maybe this could be the same thing as the upgrade sprues I mentioned before.

If I'm getting really out there a plastic Kustom Battle Fortress and Mega Bommer kits would be awesome, but almost as unlikely as them making ork gargants. Really some decent Open Play ork vehicle design rules would scratch my itch for this.

This isn't getting into a the little upgrade and weapon replacement options I'd like to see, like buggies armed with wreckin' balls or grot snipers to go along with Kommandoz or a weirdboy stompa.

I don't think most of the stuff I listed is necessary, but I'd like to see it. There's a whole lot more I'd like to see too, but I figure I should just stop.

It's a good thing I'm not in charge because I'd probably turn 40k into a game that was just Apoc scale Gorkamorka with all other factions just being NPCs for the orks to fight.

Ghaz would probably be in line with other Big HQ LOW units, one buff specific to their designated chapter/legion/clan, and one buff for all friendly faction units. All Orks in range of Ghaz might get an extra attack, but only Goff Boyz would get +1 to wound or whatever have you.

Now I'm pretty damn sure I want Goffs in my army somewhere as the main CC Choppa boyz mobs, because they will be so much easier to paint... But it could just as easy be Bad Moons that have better equipment and wound better, or Evil Suns that roll 2 dice for advance rolls....
The wait is killing me!

I'd like new buggies and tracks, as long as they
are HUGE like the truck... can't fit 'em on the table easily!

Ghaz better be AT LEAST bigger than Magnus. I'm talking like a £120 quid ultra model, 2' tall monster.

Also, just updated kits in general. A complete range update would be amazing

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Now I'm pretty damn sure I want Goffs in my army somewhere as the main CC Choppa boyz mobs, because they will be so much easier to paint... But it could just as easy be Bad Moons that have better equipment and wound better, or Evil Suns that roll 2 dice for advance rolls....
The wait is killing me!

I was feeling fairly patient right up until this last round of codexes. Now it's becoming difficult. That Custodes codex was a bit hard to swallow though. Hopefully the wait will be worth it.

I've got enough orks to have a warband from every clan, but I'm not sure I'll manage to get them all painted before I die of old age.


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 NOLA Chris wrote:
I'd like new buggies and tracks, as long as they
are HUGE like the truck... can't fit 'em on the table easily!

I'm alright with them staying roughly the same size, they're basically in between a bike and a full-fledged vehicle, I mostly just want them to look like they belong with the more modern ork look.


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 McMagnus Mindbullets wrote:
Ghaz better be AT LEAST bigger than Magnus. I'm talking like a £120 quid ultra model, 2' tall monster.

Also, just updated kits in general. A complete range update would be amazing

Haha, so you want Ghaz to be able to headbutt a Warlord Titan? That would be pretty funny, and it would save our opponents the effort of flipping the table as the weight of the Ghazghkull model would do it for them.

 Nightlord1987 wrote:
Ghaz would probably be in line with other Big HQ LOW units, one buff specific to their designated chapter/legion/clan, and one buff for all friendly faction units. All Orks in range of Ghaz might get an extra attack, but only Goff Boyz would get +1 to wound or whatever have you.

I mean, the precedent has been set with Commissar Yarrick to be able to buff a whole army instead of just a single Regiment.

Yarrick is traditionally a Steel Legion Commissar, but they have made it so his rerolls of 1's to hit is just <Astra Militarum>. If anything, I would think it strange for Ghaz to just focus on buffing Goffs, especially when he is known for being clever and managing large Waaghs!... which are more than likely to include multiple Ork clans.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
I think we need to be able to make our HQ options without kit bashing.

They might well fix that problem.

By deleting those options.