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2018/06/15 13:09:15
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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2018/06/15 13:19:01
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I was thinking to myself, is Death Guard a CSM <Legion> in that regard? I have a feeling it isn't but then again all the special Space Marine Chapters except for GK and LotD get to play with it.
Edit: Apart from that, a pretty solid choice I think. Only ~50 points more than a Rhino, but has DS and hits like a brick if it gets into cc
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2018/06/15 15:57:44
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2018/06/15 13:32:19
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Norn Queen
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BleachHawk wrote:
I was thinking to myself, is Death Guard a CSM <Legion> in that regard? I have a feeling it isn't but then again all the special Space Marine Chapters except for GK and LotD get to play with it.
Edit: Apart from that, a pretty solid choice I think. Only 30 points more than a Rhino, but has DS and hits like a brick if it gets into cc
It isn't. However, the FW FAQ has an entry regarding <LEGION> for their index, to take that as far as you and your opponent are willing to go with it https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/imperial_armour_index_forces_of_chaos-1.pdf
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2018/06/15 13:53:32
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Stoic Grail Knight
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Well its a lot more expensive than a Rhino. With its base wargear its looking at 134 points. A Rhino is usually in the ballpark of 80 after loading up on Storm / Combi Bolters or other cheap upgrades. Of course you can upgrade the storm bolters for the Chargers for some serious dakka for a few more points. The big difference is that Termite Drill is really good in assault with a great profile and a chaining mortal wounds... Whereas a Rhino can charge a squad to tie it up or soak overwatch.
At this point it seems closest to the Chaos Hellforged Dreadclaw Drop Pod, which is only a few points cheaper than the Termite. The Dreadclaw can transport a wider variety of things and is much faster once deployed, but has a generally worse loadout for ranged and melee. In any event the Termite looks pretty fun now, especially Marines who can now use it instead of the terrible Drop Pod. And I'm pretty sure forwarned Dark Reapers will still need to target the Termite and not the angry disembarking marines in rapid fire range.
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2018/06/15 14:32:29
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Dakka Veteran
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I really wish they'd just let ad Mech use chimeras or torox, but at least they finally have a transport so they can do something other than a cawl blob in the back corner.
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2018/06/15 14:56:23
Subject: Re:Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Northridge, CA
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I did a mini Chaos writeup on it here: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/4650/727523.page#10024910
Basically if take the Twin Volkite Chargers it costs twice what a basic Rhino costs but the benefits you get are top notch, IMO.
And the drill, THE DRILL, OOOOOHHHH BBAABBBYYY
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2018/06/15 15:24:06
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Danny slag wrote:I really wish they'd just let ad Mech use chimeras or torox, but at least they finally have a transport so they can do something other than a cawl blob in the back corner.
Triaros or Macrocarid Exploritor would be my wishes. Such awesome looking models.
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2018/06/15 20:57:30
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Quasistellar wrote:Danny slag wrote:I really wish they'd just let ad Mech use chimeras or torox, but at least they finally have a transport so they can do something other than a cawl blob in the back corner.
Triaros or Macrocarid Exploritor would be my wishes. Such awesome looking models.
yup, I wanted a termite since they announced it, but I think I'd rather have a macrocarid. my skitarii need a way to get into the face of my opponent, as long as they can keep up w my armigers.
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2018/06/15 21:04:53
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Still sad you can't put Primaris in it. Sigh.. At least it's another model I don't have to buy.
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2018/06/16 14:27:57
Subject: Re:Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I love these new rules. It might be crazy expensive, but it’s just so darn cool looking and unique that I want to buy a ton of them.
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2018/06/16 15:37:02
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Regular Dakkanaut
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BleachHawk wrote:
I was thinking to myself, is Death Guard a CSM <Legion> in that regard? I have a feeling it isn't but then again all the special Space Marine Chapters except for GK and LotD get to play with it.
Edit: Apart from that, a pretty solid choice I think. Only ~50 points more than a Rhino, but has DS and hits like a brick if it gets into cc
All of the units in the CSM book have the <Legion> keyword. While the 1ksons and the Death Guard have that replaced with Death Guard and Thousand Sons because they don't get to pick from other Legions so yes yes they are legions.
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2018/06/16 15:40:22
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
Little Rock, Arkansas
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This thing is quite good for its points.
Imagine taking a marine dreadnought with MM/fist/SB. (Yes I know it's mediocre unit.)
Then add:
-1 toughness and 2 wounds. (T8 is a very relevant increase.)
-some movement speed.
-12 transport spots
-inbuilt deep strike option
-ability to spit dudes out on arrival like a pod OR keep them safe inside.
-comparable melee considering it has more attacks but one less WS.
-the drill mortal wounds effect against big enemies.
-an extra storm bolter
-melta shots changed from 1 to d3
And after all of that it's cheaper than the dread. One could argue that the dread gets chapter tactics, but the termite can get a forge world dogma if taken with admech.
Seems pretty good.
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2018/06/16 16:21:00
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Can't wait to see some Chaos conversions for these things.
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2018/06/16 16:43:53
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Fixture of Dakka
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Why do Grey Knights don't get access to them? The drill seems like it would be a nice addition to a short range army. Would help with the teleportation problems too.
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If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain. |
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2018/06/16 16:49:11
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter
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Here's the way I see it:
For 9 points more, you get a Vindicator that deepstrikes, has transport, and is pretty good at assault.
Yeah, it's not quite the same as a Vindicator, being S8 instead of S10, which is relevant, but not a dealbreaker.
OTOH, it's not like Vindicators are great.
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2018/06/16 20:52:50
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Karol wrote:Why do Grey Knights don't get access to them? The drill seems like it would be a nice addition to a short range army. Would help with the teleportation problems too.
Lore wise don't they all just teleport everywhere? Why bother with giant drills when you can just space magic your way in?
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2018/06/16 21:28:02
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Fixture of Dakka
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The rules kind of a don't allow deep strike anymore. Seem strange to single out just one army to not be able use it.
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If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain. |
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2018/06/16 23:58:10
Subject: Re:Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Damn I'd love to model that bursting from the earth, nearly vertical. Pricey ($$$) for a transport, but really tough and well armed for a transport.
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2018/06/17 00:11:51
Subject: Termite drill just got an upgrade
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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MrMoustaffa wrote:Karol wrote:Why do Grey Knights don't get access to them? The drill seems like it would be a nice addition to a short range army. Would help with the teleportation problems too.
Lore wise don't they all just teleport everywhere? Why bother with giant drills when you can just space magic your way in?
The strange thing is not all of our infantry can innately deep strike. The following can only deep strike via stratagem: Crowe, Techmarines, The brotherhood champion, Purifiers, Servitors and, Purgation Squads. Vehicles can't deep strike without the stratagem. So, for some odd reason GKs have to know ahead of time where to send the above troops so that they can meet their brethren on the proper field of combat.
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