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Played an Eldar opponent the other day and came across this situation:
He placed his Autarch Warlord on the table that had the "Path of Command" trait (roll a D6 for each command point spent, on a 6 you gain a CP). We continued the deployment phase and he argued that he would be able to roll a D6 for a unit that he intended to put into deep strike with the craftworlds stratagem. I wasn't sure how this would play out and argued that for the sake of rules, his Autarch wasn't officially on the table yet since the first turn hadn't started. We made a note of the situation and continued on with my ruling which made the most sense. What's the proper handling on this?

Thanks.
   
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eternalxfl wrote:
Played an Eldar opponent the other day and came across this situation:
He placed his Autarch Warlord on the table that had the "Path of Command" trait (roll a D6 for each command point spent, on a 6 you gain a CP). We continued the deployment phase and he argued that he would be able to roll a D6 for a unit that he intended to put into deep strike with the craftworlds stratagem. I wasn't sure how this would play out and argued that for the sake of rules, his Autarch wasn't officially on the table yet since the first turn hadn't started. We made a note of the situation and continued on with my ruling which made the most sense. What's the proper handling on this?

Thanks.
As of the time of writing, this is indeed how it works. Path of Command (and other similar abilities post-errata) work when "if your army is Battle-forged and this model is your Warlord and on the battlefield" (the warlord part differs, but the important part is they all ask for the model to be "on the battlefield" and your army be "Battle-forged"). The warlord is demonstrably on the battlefield after you have set up their unit, so their special rule works since there is no additional restriction that it must be during a phase.

On the one hand, this lets them "farm" CP indeployment, on the other it forces them to deploy their warlord first, thus losing out on being able to react to your own deployment, so it's a fair trade.

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eternalxfl wrote:
Played an Eldar opponent the other day and came across this situation:
He placed his Autarch Warlord on the table that had the "Path of Command" trait (roll a D6 for each command point spent, on a 6 you gain a CP). We continued the deployment phase and he argued that he would be able to roll a D6 for a unit that he intended to put into deep strike with the craftworlds stratagem. I wasn't sure how this would play out and argued that for the sake of rules, his Autarch wasn't officially on the table yet since the first turn hadn't started. We made a note of the situation and continued on with my ruling which made the most sense. What's the proper handling on this?

Thanks.


I think your unit has to be on the table now to benefit from any auras or strats unless the strats etc say otherwise.

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 Delvarus Centurion wrote:
I think your unit has to be on the table now to benefit from any auras or strats unless the strats etc say otherwise.
Yes, he knows this, he even stated as such. The Autarch was on the battlefield before he started using stratagem, so he gets a chance to refund them even though it's deployment.
   
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eternalxfl wrote:
We made a note of the situation and continued on with my ruling which made the most sense. What's the proper handling on this?



Your opponent was correct, as explained by Mr. CatBug above. He should have been able to roll for CP refunds for any stratagems he used during deployment after he deployed his Autarch. This is directly and explicitly addressed in the Craftworlds FAQ:

Q: If the Warlord of my Battle-forged army is an Autarch, can I use the Path of Command ability to refund Command Points when I spend them on Stratagems used during deployment (for example, Cloudstrike, Webway Strike, etc.)?
A: Yes, but only if your Autarch Warlord is on the battlefield when the Stratagem is used.
   
 
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