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2018/06/30 00:35:56
Subject: [2000] - Harlequin/craftword
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Alright, So I started a Harlequin army, I currently have it at exactly 1000 points, and I like that were it is. But I find I don't exactly want to bring pure harlequin up to 2000 points, and I've decided to do a thousand points of Craftworld Eldar., and I'd like to know what people think.
Note: I'm FIRM on the Harlequin list, as that is already purchased and mostly painted. So its mostly the Craftworld section that I'm looking for input on. Constructive criticism is welcome,
Harlequin Frozen Stars Battalion +5 CP
HQ:
Shadowseer
Troop Master with caress/fusion ((Warlord: w/ frozen star warlord trait, Great Harlequin stratagem, and Ghoul Mask))
Troop Master with Kiss/Distribution
Elite:
DeathJester
Troops:
5 players with blade/shuriken
5 players with caress/fusion
5 players with kiss/disruption
Transports:
3 star weavers
Craftworld Altiac Outrider Detatchment +1 CP
HQ:
Farseer on Windrider 135
Fast:
1 Vyper with brightlance 75
1vyper with brightlance 75
6 windriders 138
Heavy Support: 365
Lynx w/ Pulsar and missile, with targetting crystals and spirit stones
Flyer: 210
Hemlock
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/06/30 00:44:17
I like to say I have two armies: Necrons, and Imperium.....
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2018/06/30 11:48:37
Subject: [2000] - Harlequin/craftword
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Wicked Wych With a Whip
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If you take an Autarch, you can put him on a bike and give him a banshee mask to nullify overwatch.
Looks like a fun list.
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2018/06/30 15:47:14
Subject: [2000] - Harlequin/craftword
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Headlss wrote:If you take an Autarch, you can put him on a bike and give him a banshee mask to nullify overwatch.
Looks like a fun list.
So you would replace the Farseer with an autarch?
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I like to say I have two armies: Necrons, and Imperium.....
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2018/06/30 16:12:35
Subject: Re:[2000] - Harlequin/craftword
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Death jester are only worth it if Dreaming Shadows Masque AND Curtainfall.
Troupes really preform well with Fusion and Kiss/Embrace or Caress . Shuiken is meh, blades just sucks. I would def take a Fusion over a Neuro.
Lastly if your taking 3 star weavers I would add in another Troupe to fill all 3.
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2018/06/30 16:59:19
Subject: Re:[2000] - Harlequin/craftword
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Dakka Veteran
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MOTOV8ED wrote:Death jester are only worth it if Dreaming Shadows Masque AND Curtainfall.
Troupes really preform well with Fusion and Kiss/Embrace or Caress . Shuiken is meh, blades just sucks. I would def take a Fusion over a Neuro.
Lastly if your taking 3 star weavers I would add in another Troupe to fill all 3.
I appreciate your thoughts, But as I said, I'm more interested in hearing thoughts on the Craftworld section, as the harlequin section isn't going to change. And the starweavers are full once your put the 5 man troop and a character into them.
The one unit is build to be a minimum point unit, to be ablative wounds for the Shadowseer. the Death Jester is included because I had the points for him.
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I like to say I have two armies: Necrons, and Imperium.....
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2018/07/01 08:32:11
Subject: [2000] - Harlequin/craftword
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Bush? No, Eldar Ranger
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I'm not seeing what the Vypers really add for you that wouldn't be better provided by Warwalkers or Voidweavers.
Maybe switch to a Heavy Support detachment with Warwalkers/Lynx/Hemlock in?
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2018/07/01 16:48:28
Subject: [2000] - Harlequin/craftword
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Lithanial wrote:I'm not seeing what the Vypers really add for you that wouldn't be better provided by Warwalkers or Voidweavers.
Maybe switch to a Heavy Support detachment with Warwalkers/Lynx/Hemlock in?
Fluff reasons mostly, the whole detachment is an "escort" for the Lynx.
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I like to say I have two armies: Necrons, and Imperium.....
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2018/07/01 17:04:30
Subject: [2000] - Harlequin/craftword
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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The CW detachment is rather meh.
I'd suggest Dark Reapers, Fire Prisms, and/or Warwalkers.
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2018/07/01 17:17:15
Subject: [2000] - Harlequin/craftword
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Fixture of Dakka
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Ralis wrote:Headlss wrote:If you take an Autarch, you can put him on a bike and give him a banshee mask to nullify overwatch.
Looks like a fun list.
So you would replace the Farseer with an autarch?
Kind of a toss up; the farseer brings Doom, which the Harlies can benefit from (right?) while the autarch's B-mask cancels overwatch, which helps your h2h game. If your meta has more psycker enemies, bring the farseer for better Deny the Witch. Then again, why dither when choosing between steak and lobster? Have both.
On another note, about the viper loadout: single shot BLs on the vipers are not unit crushing. You either scrag one model of infantry or hurt (but not kill) a vehicle. I would chose either the AMissile Launcher for its versatility or the ScatLas. Again, not unit crushing either, but more likely to finish off 2 to 3 strangling models of a unit that you already hurt, but need to be entirely wiped off an objective. Are there Inceptors, Obliterators, and other mutil-wound knuckleheads in the way? Star Cannon. Yeah, only 2 shots, but the damage is good for Death Guard termies. Those units (the 1st two I mentioned) are usually small, and you might just erase 2 dudes with mild odds going your way.
I went through a phase of using BLs on War Walkers and they never really earned their points, but once I switched to AMLs or ScatLas (6e Laser Lock was the bomb!) then the units could contribute more.
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2018/07/01 19:38:20
Subject: [2000] - Harlequin/craftword
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Water-Caste Negotiator
Columbus
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Could just as easy take a solitaire with the Artifact that denies overwatch! He can also get up the field really quick! Or even stick the artifact on a Troupe master.
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2018/07/02 01:44:45
Subject: [2000] - Harlequin/craftword
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Wicked Wych With a Whip
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Ralis wrote:Headlss wrote:If you take an Autarch, you can put him on a bike and give him a banshee mask to nullify overwatch.
Looks like a fun list.
So you would replace the Farseer with an autarch?
I just hate getting shot. Free shots when I fianally make it to cc range is very upsetting to me, but doom is awesome, and mindwar will be pretty sweet too. You've got a death jester and the hemlock in that list right?
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2018/07/03 03:14:59
Subject: [2000] - Harlequin/craftword
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Headlss wrote:Ralis wrote:Headlss wrote:If you take an Autarch, you can put him on a bike and give him a banshee mask to nullify overwatch.
Looks like a fun list.
So you would replace the Farseer with an autarch?
I just hate getting shot. Free shots when I fianally make it to cc range is very upsetting to me, but doom is awesome, and mindwar will be pretty sweet too. You've got a death jester and the hemlock in that list right?
I do.
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I like to say I have two armies: Necrons, and Imperium.....
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