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Can anyone who own the FW Knights chime in on how good the Magaera, Preceptor, and Strix are?

What are some tactics to using these knights? Strategies?

It seems some of the IK strategems would work nicely with some of their unique weapons when 6s are rolled.

The Preceptor's and Canis Rex Las Impulsor 2 settings seems to make it very versatile. At 36" it has many low str shots to deal with hordes but at 18" it has few strong shots to hurt MC and Vehicles.

The Preceptor cost 4 points less than a Paladin and 8 points more than a Warden.

the Las Impulsor can hurt high T better than rfbc but has fewer shots and has to get close.
The Las Impuslor still has higher Str than a Thermal cannon.
The Las impulsor can potentially have high rof like the agc.
In my opinion the Las Impulsor seem to be a good weapon to have 3 of. If only Renegade Knights can take 2 of these gun on each arm.

The Perceptor isn’t a FW Knight, it’s a regular GW kit with an upgrade sprue.

As to the Mageara and Styrix, both are “better” than regular Questoris, but you pay a little too much for the upgrade.

SJ

At the time i could not find the preceptor on gw.

Please tell me of you used the knight in battle?

 CadianGateTroll wrote:
At the time i could not find the preceptor on gw.

Please tell me of you used the knight in battle?

No one has used a preceptor model yet as it hasn't been released.
It will be released later in the year either as cannis rex or alongside the cannis rex kit. GW haven't been forthcoming with a release date that I am aware of. The only way to use a preceptor currently is proxying another knight.

The Styrix is an absolute beast. Mageara... well frankly he is objectively and subjectively worse for more points.

I am going to compare the Styrix vs the Errant as they have the most in common in regards to roles. I am giving the Styrix his rad cleanser and claw and the Errant will get his melta gun and Stormspear to make him only 55pts cheaper but boosts his stats.

Main gun: for this I am throwing both the Thermal Cannon and Sormspear together for comparison purposes. On average you will get 6-7 shots with the Errant, doing D6 each and having the melta rule when you get close. This is slightly better overall vs the Styrix Volkite, I like the five consistent shots and the exploding on 6s to wound really helps when dealing with negative hit modifiers, making it more versatile vs the Errant, does it make up for the lost shots? Not quite but close.

Secondary gun. What can I say, melta guns are... okay, if you're within melta range your probably wrecking whatever you wanted to shoot anyway and it's only one shot. The Graviton Crusher is d3 shots which isn't great, but man the three damage on 3+Models is a real shock to some people when you tell them their Leman Russ just took 3 damage from a dinky little gun.

Styrix has a flamer, I think this sets him apart fairly significantly. It's decent at normal infantry clearing. But where it shines is against Daemons and Nids, and oh man do both factions HATE the twin rad cleanser. Daemons especially, I always laugh when facing down a Skabalathrax with a Styrix because of the twin rad cleanser.

Another stand out feature with no comparison to the Errant is Emperyic Sight. Ignores cover, excellent for the rad cleanser that he has this. Except vehicles but they are hardly ever in cover anyway.

5+ regain a wound, small gift, but hey better than a sharp stick in the eye, something the Errant doesn't get.

Defenses on the Styrix are far superior and why I think a Styrix would wipe the floor with an Errant even if the Errant charged first. 4++ against shooting, 5++ against melee. You can rotate ion shields in combat bringing him to a 4++. The Errant simply would not get a save against a Styrix Hekaton Siege Claw and would be on the very bad end of average dice. 3++ in shooting?? For 1CP and no Warlord trait?? What a beast!

So if you want slightly better heavy firepower go Errant, for literally everything else the Styrix is superior. Or if you really need 55ish pts.

If the magaera was the same price as a styrix i would be favouring it just but at 100pts more its just not worth it.

You can only math hammer the praetor. The las impulser is a stronger thermal cannon or a weaker avenger but having both options in nice and flexible on a CC knight

The real question for me in how many armigers are you running - if your not then what about Cannis Rex

I wouldn't run an errant or paladin but cases cases can be made for the others

In my opinion the Styrix is really great. It has some defensive properties by default that other knights must spend warlord traits or relics on.

I've been working on my Styrix slowly for a while now:

 Goldenemperor wrote:

Main gun: for this I am throwing both the Thermal Cannon and Sormspear together for comparison purposes. On average you will get 6-7 shots with the Errant, doing D6 each and having the melta rule when you get close.

The Thermal Gun is d6 shots

Invul wrote:

 Goldenemperor wrote:

Main gun: for this I am throwing both the Thermal Cannon and Sormspear together for comparison purposes. On average you will get 6-7 shots with the Errant, doing D6 each and having the melta rule when you get close.

The Thermal Gun is d6 shots

And stormspear is heavy 3. He was for this I am throwing both the Thermal Cannon and Sormspear together for comparison purposes. d6+3=6.5 in average.

Albeit bit erroneous in that melta rule applies to only about half the shots. Also less strength and worse AP. But it's rough comparison only.

TL : DR the FW Questoris knights are too many points. The Magaera is far too many points, while the Styrix isn't quite as bad but is still clearly too expensive.

When the codex came out the other knights got cheaper. These guys didn't, meaning that they are significantly less efficient. Get a crusader instead.

The styrix still gets to benefit from the household and can take certain relics and warlord traits such as those limited to questoris knights. So while its price may not have come down it did get better.

Even just a tarranis FNP is solid on a tank.

At 500pts its not a cheap knight but it does have more firepower than any questoris other than a crusader and your paying for the invuls

how taller is a styrix compared to a normal knight i always wondered.

 blackmage wrote:
how taller is a styrix compared to a normal knight i always wondered.

The Styrix is a “normal” Knight. It’s a Questoris with a different looking main body and weapons. Which means it’s the same height as all of the other Questoris Knights.

SJ

If you order a FW knight you can win a acastus knight porphyrion (which is very useless now, you can get two regular GW knights for the points he costs). Why ? Because no one buys FW knights anymore, with the release of the imperial knights codex, and the renegade box, those FW knights have become overpriced, money and points wise.

I disagree many are overpriced financially and points wise but 3 are still worth considering though financially expensive.
Styrix- anti elite tankier
Lancer- T1 Charge
Atropos / alternative to castellan for anti tank
They all have benefits they all fit in that mid price range pts wise i have seen the Atropis at an event since the codex dropped and im considering the styrix.