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2018/07/02 05:26:02
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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The Custodes have the Imperial palace on lock down, but if it happened who do you think would be able to do the job. Even though they would never do it as they need the Emp's to live, I'd say the harlequins have the best chance. No drach'nyen smarty pants please lol.
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2018/07/02 05:30:52
Subject: Re:Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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A custodian guard would have the best chance of success. Mostly because nobody would expect it. "Incorruptible" is a term used by people who lack imagination. Every man has his price, some higher than others.
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2018/07/02 05:45:24
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Gargantuan Gargant
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Malcador, who could go and visit the Emperor as he pleased. If we're talking non-Imperials, it would probably be Necrons or Dark Eldar, who have the tech to potentially bypass most of the Palace's defenses.
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2018/07/02 09:25:17
Subject: Re:Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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w1zard wrote:A custodian guard would have the best chance of success. Mostly because nobody would expect it. "Incorruptible" is a term used by people who lack imagination. Every man has his price, some higher than others.
There nature and link to the emparor grants some messure of athema or protection. Plus there training and so. Incorruptible.
But on a theoticical yes.
They or a race like dark eldar or necron with phasing and so tech. Brute force just does not work.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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2018/07/02 09:45:07
Subject: Re:Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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jhe90 wrote:There nature and link to the emparor grants some messure of athema or protection. Plus there training and so. Incorruptible.
Oh I didn't mean something as mundane as bribes, or as simple as chaos corruption. Think bigger. You don't think there is anything in the universe that could get a custode to turn on the emperor? The universe is a big place.
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2018/07/02 10:43:59
Subject: Re:Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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w1zard wrote: jhe90 wrote:There nature and link to the emparor grants some messure of athema or protection. Plus there training and so. Incorruptible.
Oh I didn't mean something as mundane as bribes, or as simple as chaos corruption. Think bigger. You don't think there is anything in the universe that could get a custode to turn on the emperor? The universe is a big place.
You couldn't bribe anyway, The Imperial palace has a million guards, all ordered and organised by the Custodes, they wouldn't take bribes and even if they did they'd still have to get through the sanctum imperialis which is full of custodes. As for Custodes turning, they don't live for glory like Space Marines, all they care about is serving, so there is nothing Chaos can offer them.
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2018/07/02 11:18:52
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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That is of course if a Custodian Guard wasn't persuaded that 'killing' the Emperor would allow him to be reborn and lead the Imperium into a new age of light.
Corrupted is a very strong word, persuade is more what the Gods do.
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2018/07/02 11:22:20
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator
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mrhappyface wrote:That is of course if a Custodian Guard wasn't persuaded that 'killing' the Emperor would allow him to be reborn and lead the Imperium into a new age of light.
Corrupted is a very strong word, persuade is more what the Gods do.
That's a bit ridiculous though. Chaos can't persuade you to do anything. They can only offer you something and if you take what they offer your soul is taken. Chaos can't dupe you into turning, espeacially not the Custodes who know as much as the Inquisition does about Chaos.
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2018/07/02 11:29:00
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Delvarus Centurion wrote: mrhappyface wrote:That is of course if a Custodian Guard wasn't persuaded that 'killing' the Emperor would allow him to be reborn and lead the Imperium into a new age of light.
Corrupted is a very strong word, persuade is more what the Gods do.
That's a bit ridiculous though. Chaos can't persuade you to do anything. They can only offer you something and if you take what they offer your soul is taken. Chaos can't dupe you into turning, espeacially not the Custodes who know as much as the Inquisition does about Chaos.
The thing is, its hard to offer them anything.
They love soley to guard emperor. They have no chapter, or other loyalty bar to there own officers and the emparor.
There authority is default and if you go off there ancient rights, immune to inquestion, all in walls including inquistor lords, and more bow to them inside the palace. they also are the emperors hand and have his authority. not acting in his name, his authority. why they are immune to Inquisition there directly the empaors own household guard as so. outside and inside.
they have massive libiaries, so no real hidden info. know about chaos.
theres very very little you could use to corupt them. there not quite like marines, they have far less humanity and thus far less weakness.
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they also give zero feths. there very clear they do not serve impium. they serve the boss only.
they do not see themselves as working for mankind. they will kill refugees who slow them down in the HH just for slowing them down, they give no care for anything but there mission. anything else is weakness, a delay, or a threat.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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2018/07/02 11:46:54
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Delvarus Centurion wrote: mrhappyface wrote:That is of course if a Custodian Guard wasn't persuaded that 'killing' the Emperor would allow him to be reborn and lead the Imperium into a new age of light.
Corrupted is a very strong word, persuade is more what the Gods do.
That's a bit ridiculous though. Chaos can't persuade you to do anything. They can only offer you something and if you take what they offer your soul is taken. Chaos can't dupe you into turning, espeacially not the Custodes who know as much as the Inquisition does about Chaos.
It's not ridiculous at all, of course Chaos whispers lies and half truths to people to trick them into doing something they never would have done otherwise. The Gods (especially Tzeentch) are cunning and will very likely know what to say to make a person doubt themselves.
Whether or not a Custodes Guard would immediately work out such whispers came from Chaos is another question.
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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2018/07/02 13:16:03
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Fixture of Dakka
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Mandrakes can supposedly appear out of peoples shadows. The Emperor has a shadow. Mandrake hands down. Far easier to hire than a Custodes.
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2018/07/02 14:38:16
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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The real answer to this is, considering that no-one has ever assassinated the Emperor, it can't be possible for Mandrakes/Necrons/Dark Eldar to pull it off. The only thing I can think of is less "assassinating the Emperor" and more "wiping out the Sol System/Terra with the Emperor along with it".
That's things like a black hole courtesy of Vect, a tesseract labyrinth, the Celestial Orrey, Exterminatus (and even then, not guaranteed).
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2018/07/02 14:53:56
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Blood Angel Terminator with Lightning Claws
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I say Bobby G
But what happened when he returned to Terra, did he get frisked and interrogated before he could see Emps?
What armour does he wear?
The pics I’ve seen he’s in suit of terminator
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2018/07/02 17:22:46
Subject: Re:Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Stormin' Stompa
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Define 'assassinate'.
Because there was that one time the Orks parked a death star over Terra. They could have assassinated the Emperor... along with the whole planet, but that's just semantics.
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2018/07/02 18:52:26
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Norn Queen
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The Mechanicus, by launching an asteroid at 0.1c into the planet.
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2018/07/02 19:07:54
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Would be far easier to say "opps... golden throne isn't working... Can't fix it" *emperor dies* "We tried...." *Walks off to do Mechanicus things*
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2018/07/02 19:37:09
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They can, and there is multiple examples in the lore that back up my assertion. Despite our... disagreements on this.
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2018/07/02 19:45:02
Subject: Re:Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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How do you assassinate someone/something that's already dead?
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2018/07/02 20:55:51
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Been Around the Block
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I too am thinking a custodian guard is the most likely. 'incorruptible' in the fluff only gets you so far. Besides, isn't feeling incorruptible a source of pride and therefore a gateway for slaanesh?
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2018/07/02 21:52:17
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Rybrook wrote:I say Bobby G
But what happened when he returned to Terra, did he get frisked and interrogated before he could see Emps?
What armour does he wear?
The pics I’ve seen he’s in suit of terminator
Its unquie with life support and scale more dreadnought designed.
The design is more terminator in nature though.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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2018/07/02 21:56:00
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Leader of the Sept
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Matt Ward?
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2018/07/02 22:02:20
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I actually align to the idea that if you could convince a custode that the best way to 'protect' the Emperor was to kill him then the custode would be the best bet at assassination.
I like the idea that the 'Starchild' theory is a Tzeentchian plot to convince a custode of exactly that line of thought.
For a custode to kill the Emperor, expecting a glorious rebirth, but instead being met with the Astronomicon blinking out and the galaxy being plunged into darkness...
Well, lets just say this; the ironing is delicious!
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2018/07/03 00:56:01
Subject: Re:Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Regular Dakkanaut
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w1zard wrote: jhe90 wrote:There nature and link to the emparor grants some messure of athema or protection. Plus there training and so. Incorruptible.
Oh I didn't mean something as mundane as bribes, or as simple as chaos corruption. Think bigger. You don't think there is anything in the universe that could get a custode to turn on the emperor? The universe is a big place.
Two Sisters of Battle at the same time.
I'd pop THESE Purity Seals!
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2018/07/03 09:36:46
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Roboute Guilliman for sure.
He is a Primarch, has been granted audience with the Emperor, alone, previously, has the Emperor's own weapon and is likely one of the few who could reliably and realistically defeat several custodes in order to enact the Assassination.
Other than that, potentially a Grey Knight? They have the Incorruptible factor covered, so no one would suspect them. They have the psychic powers to maybe just cause a piece of the ceiling to crush him.
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2018/07/03 15:08:23
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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2018/07/03 15:20:34
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Mighty Vampire Count
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jhe90 wrote: Delvarus Centurion wrote: mrhappyface wrote:That is of course if a Custodian Guard wasn't persuaded that 'killing' the Emperor would allow him to be reborn and lead the Imperium into a new age of light.
Corrupted is a very strong word, persuade is more what the Gods do.
That's a bit ridiculous though. Chaos can't persuade you to do anything. They can only offer you something and if you take what they offer your soul is taken. Chaos can't dupe you into turning, espeacially not the Custodes who know as much as the Inquisition does about Chaos.
The thing is, its hard to offer them anything.
They love soley to guard emperor. They have no chapter, or other loyalty bar to there own officers and the emparor.
There authority is default and if you go off there ancient rights, immune to inquestion, all in walls including inquistor lords, and more bow to them inside the palace. they also are the emperors hand and have his authority. not acting in his name, his authority. why they are immune to Inquisition there directly the empaors own household guard as so. outside and inside.
they have massive libiaries, so no real hidden info. know about chaos.
theres very very little you could use to corupt them. there not quite like marines, they have far less humanity and thus far less weakness.
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they also give zero feths. there very clear they do not serve impium. they serve the boss only.
they do not see themselves as working for mankind. they will kill refugees who slow them down in the HH just for slowing them down, they give no care for anything but there mission. anything else is weakness, a delay, or a threat.
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Custodians did interfere at the end of the Vandire's reign by taking the five senior members of the Brides of the Emperor to see the Emperor so they could then go and sort out Vandire.
They are near human like Marines so there is the potential for corruption - pride is one flaw (Slaanesh), another is there introspection and potential for despair (Nurgle).
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2018/07/03 15:22:51
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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Apparently Abbadon could just drop another space ship onto Terra.
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2018/07/03 15:29:27
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Mighty Vampire Count
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ChargerIIC wrote:Apparently Abbadon could just drop another space ship onto Terra.
#NotBitter #CadiaStands #PlanetFellBeforeTheGuardDid
Didn't the Orks just teleport in with a war-moon ship a few thousand years ago.
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Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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2018/07/03 16:49:05
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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As Deadshot said before me....Guilliman.
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2018/07/03 18:47:36
Subject: Who has the best chance of assassinating the Emperor
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Ork snipers
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