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2018/07/18 10:15:11
Subject: Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Howdy.
Is this combo legal?
You ambush Tallarn Tank Commander, move to shooting phase and order on it Get Behind Them to move before shooting.
Somewhere I think I saw that it was FAQ'ed as illegal but cannot find this as well cannot find nothing in FAQ/ERRATA/CODEX stating this impossible.
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2018/07/18 11:02:23
Subject: Re:Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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I see no reason why this shouldnt work. You can also use a unit of 3 hellhounds instead. The FW artemia is even better. Why do you want to move closer anyway ?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/07/18 11:06:36
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2018/07/18 11:33:47
Subject: Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Break LoS, move and attack with flamers and crush them stratagem afterwards and so on .
Hellhounds are ok but very hard to get in Poland and more expensive than Leman Russ (in terms of real money).
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2018/07/18 12:18:47
Subject: Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Gnollu wrote:Howdy.
Is this combo legal?
You ambush Tallarn Tank Commander, move to shooting phase and order on it Get Behind Them to move before shooting.
Somewhere I think I saw that it was FAQ'ed as illegal but cannot find this as well cannot find nothing in FAQ/ERRATA/CODEX stating this impossible.
The rules for reinforcements say that when a unit is set up on
the battlefield as reinforcements, it cannot move or Advance
further that turn, but can otherwise act normally (shoot,
charge, etc.).
Q: Can such a unit make a charge move? Can it pile in
and consolidate?
A: Yes to both questions – the unit can declare a charge
and make a charge move, and if it is chosen to fight, it
can pile in and consolidate.
Q: Can such a unit move or Advance for any other reason
e.g. because of an ability such as The Swarmlord’s Hive
Commander ability, or because of a psychic power such as
Warptime
from the Dark Hereticus discipline, or because
of a Stratagem like Metabolic Overdrive from
Codex:
Ty are a n id s
, etc.?
A: No.
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2018/07/18 12:46:36
Subject: Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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@tneva82
yea, that was it .
So answer to my question is:
No, this combo is illegal.
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2018/07/18 13:23:19
Subject: Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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Norn Queen
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Yeah you can't use Warptime or other out of phase movements anymore on Reinforcements. Yay for Special Snowflake FAQs!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2018/07/18 13:23:29
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2018/07/18 14:08:04
Subject: Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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BaconCatBug wrote:Yeah you can't use Warptime or other out of phase movements anymore on Reinforcements. Yay for Special Snowflake FAQs!
So the fact that GW clarified that yes, other than charging/pile in when we say you cannot move the turn you arrive, we in fact mean you cannot move the turn you arrive, is a special snowflake FAQ?
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Greebo had spent an irritating two minutes in that box. Technically, a cat locked in a box may be alive or it may be dead. You never know until you look. In fact, the mere act of opening the box will determine the state of the cat, although in this case there were three determinate states the cat could be in: these being Alive, Dead, and Bloody Furious.
Orks always ride in single file to hide their strength and numbers.
Gozer the Gozerian, Gozer the Destructor, Volguus Zildrohar, Gozer the Traveler, and Lord of the Sebouillia |
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2018/07/18 14:15:55
Subject: Re:Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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Does this mean a charge move is not a move ?
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2018/07/18 14:43:26
Subject: Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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Norn Queen
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Happyjew wrote: BaconCatBug wrote:Yeah you can't use Warptime or other out of phase movements anymore on Reinforcements. Yay for Special Snowflake FAQs!
So the fact that GW clarified that yes, other than charging/pile in when we say you cannot move the turn you arrive, we in fact mean you cannot move the turn you arrive, is a special snowflake FAQ?
Because it ignores the RaW, and ignores the fact they previously said you COULD use Warptime etc.
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2018/07/18 16:33:18
Subject: Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Can we all just call it a ‘rules change in the FAQ’ instead of the repeated, tedious, politically-charged epithet? I mean, it’s been raised before and you doubled down so I guess not, but here’s me asking nicely again.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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2018/07/18 19:51:52
Subject: Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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Deathwing Terminator with Assault Cannon
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JohnnyHell wrote:Can we all just call it a ‘rules change in the FAQ’ instead of the repeated, tedious, politically-charged epithet? I mean, it’s been raised before and you doubled down so I guess not, but here’s me asking nicely again.
Can we abbreviate it to 'SSF' instead?
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2018/07/18 20:57:50
Subject: Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Whatever makes you feel edgy. ;-)
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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2018/07/18 20:59:59
Subject: Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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Scarred Ultramarine Tyrannic War Veteran
Ankh Morpork
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JohnnyHell wrote:Can we all just call it a ‘rules change in the FAQ’ instead of the repeated, tedious, politically-charged epithet? I mean, it’s been raised before and you doubled down so I guess not, but here’s me asking nicely again.
Personally I just assume a social/communicative disorder of some kind. Makes reading and replying nicer when my default isn't thinking he's deliberately setting out to be a dick.
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2018/07/19 01:17:51
Subject: Re:Tallarn Ambush stratagem + Get Behind Them!
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[MOD]
Solahma
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Please keep in mind that Rule Number one is Be Polite.
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