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Looks like they nailed it. The tone of this is absolutely bang on. Very fun at face value, but with enough of a hint that there's going to be a very real, even dark side to it under the colourful surface.
I'm kind of hoping its just stupid and silly though and though as it's the best way to deal with powers on his level, and 'cos Magic' is a splendid go to
"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."
The trailer makes the movie look like a lot of fun - hopefully the movie delivers on it!
Now, I'll admit to not being the biggest Captain Marvel/Shazam fan, I've always liked the character though - but...I don't remember Dr. Sivana being super powered?
Of all things, it made me think of the old Tom Hanks movie 'Big'. Looks really good, and it's nice to see a DC movie that embraces the inherent silliness of a character's concept and just has some fun with it.
"The 75mm gun is firing. The 37mm gun is firing, but is traversed round the wrong way. The Browning is jammed. I am saying "Driver, advance." and the driver, who can't hear me, is reversing. And as I look over the top of the turret and see twelve enemy tanks fifty yards away, someone hands me a cheese sandwich."
Regarding Sivana, in the New 52 version he gets zapped by some magic when searching for Black Adam’s tomb. This looks *very* similar to that version...which would make sense since Johns was involved. I think you can even make out Sivana’s sparkly eye.
Yeah, this does look like an almost exact adaptation of the Johns N52 run, certain scenes seem to be directly pulled from those issues...
Which is great news, as that is an excellent run. If you're not familiar with the character and want a single volume introduction, I highly recommend picking up a copy of that.
I do find it somewhat ironic that Mark Strong is playing Sivana, as I maintain he'd make an incredible Black Adam (a role I'm really not convinced The Rock can do justice).
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I do not give a crap about Shazam, but damn this looks fun.
Paradigm wrote: I do find it somewhat ironic that Mark Strong is playing Sivana, as I maintain he'd make an incredible Black Adam (a role I'm really not convinced The Rock can do justice).
Mark Strong would make a good Wonder Woman. That man can do anything.
SlaveToDorkness wrote: Was there a TV show about Shaz or something? I've never read any comics of him but have vague memories of his powers/origin.
yup.
complete with a mentor called... err.. "Mentor" and obligatory motor/dirt bike.
70s were wild.
From one recalls from the comics of that era the show was frequently shown alongside
back when TV channels were big on the concept of the A/B/C hour .
.. ..I'd imagine a show today called "Secrets of Isis" might be a wee bit different.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I do like that there's also some hints to it that it isn't just a comedy, that there's the aspect of he IS an orphan and that there might be some dramatic elements still in the film from that.
I don't want Snyder but I do want, and I think this is the right term, but please correct me if I'm wrong but... Pathos? Too
I know nothing about DC beyond the main two guys (and who Wonder Woman is despite being too young for Linda Carter). What is this please?
“Good people are quick to help others in need, without hesitation or requiring proof the need is genuine. The wicked will believe they are fighting for good, but when others are in need they’ll be reluctant to help, withholding compassion until they see proof of that need. And yet Evil is quick to condemn, vilify and attack. For Evil, proof isn’t needed to bring harm, only hatred and a belief in the cause.”
There's a few good videos about "Who is Shazam" but presumably you're not wanting to see them.
Funnily enough, I'm pretty sure Bananaman is quite heavily based off of Shazam as a parody.
Ok, who is he. Cliffnotes.
Way, way back when, Fawcett Comics created a Superman style superhero called "Captain Marvel" (no relationship to Disney's Brie Larson character, Carol Danvers. - That's a whole other mess of complication).
Billy Batson is a kid, who said the words "Shazam" and became a superhero, Captain Marvel - The Earth's Mightiest Mortal.
For a fair amount of time, Captain Marvel was WAY WAY WAY more popular than Superman. Because, what's more exciting for kids than Superheros? A *Kid* That becomes a superhero.
Legal stuff happened. More legal stuff happened. Companies were bought and so on...
Eventually, DC acquired Captain Marvel as a character and added him to their Justice League rosters.
More legal stuff happened and time went on.
Eventually, somebody decided, "eff this, this is too confusing." Probably amongst a whole heap of legal stuff
So, The Marvel Comics character, Carol Danvers, aka Ms Marvel, became Captain Marvel.
And the DC Comics hero, once known as Captain Marvel, became known as Shazam. - Which was his catchphase anyway.
As for what and who Shazam is. You can kind of think of him as a Wonder Woman / Superman cross. - Sort of Superman but magical.
And, Shazam itself means:
S for the Wisdom of Solomon
H for the Strength of Hercules
A for the Stamina of Atlas
Z for the Power of Zeus
A for the Courage of Achilles
M for the Speed of Mercury
He's part of the New 52 Justice League, has shown up a few times in animation. - His best appearance run in cartoons is probably in Young Justice. And comics wise, his most influential and famous appearance is almost certainly in Alex Ross' Kingdom Come.
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Because hes magic based he can actually beat the gak out of Superman (whos only 2 actual weaknesses are kryptonite and magic). There is a great bit that has been used a few times where he grabs supes, holds him towards the sky and yells shazam over and over so supes keeps getting hit by the magical lightning bolts that would turn him back into Billy.
Captain Marvel is still called Captain Marvel btw. His comic is just titled Shazam! And the orginal Marvel character was not the Carol Danvers Mrs Marvel, but Captain Mahr Vel (the Kree warrior who sided with earth).
These are my opinions. This is how I feel. Others may feel differently. This needs to be stated for some reason.
I've always liked the idea of Captain Marvel (still waffling about calling him Shazam) though never really read his ongoings. There's just something heartening about the idea that this kid, who's had a rough go of it, is given godlike power to do whatever he wants - powers that previous users used to become feared god-kings - and decides he wants to be Superman, so he can help people.
That said, I do not like this rendition of the suit, and I worry about Zachary Levi eventually fighting the Rock, because that throw-down requires dangerous amounts of ham-to-ham combat an I don't know if Levi can keep up with that.
Captain Joystick wrote: I've always liked the idea of Captain Marvel (still waffling about calling him Shazam) though never really read his ongoings. There's just something heartening about the idea that this kid, who's had a rough go of it, is given godlike power to do whatever he wants - powers that previous users used to become feared god-kings - and decides he wants to be Superman, so he can help people.
That said, I do not like this rendition of the suit, and I worry about Zachary Levi eventually fighting the Rock, because that throw-down requires dangerous amounts of ham-to-ham combat an I don't know if Levi can keep up with that.
I don't know, he's fairly ham-tastic as Fandril in Thor 2.
I do hope any eventual sequel to this features Superman in some kind of mentor role to Billy, as that'd be a great way to get more of the classic, post-JL Superman on screen as MoS2 still seems to be off the cards for the time being.
Ideally, we get Shazam as a fairly self-contained origin, Black Adam set mostly in ancient Kandaq with the final scene being Adam returning to the modern day, then a sequel to both in which Superman and Shazam throw down with Adam. Which I believe is basically the plot of one of the animated movies and the comic First Thunder, but nonetheless it'd make a great movie.
I think the suit mostly fits what this movie is shaping up to be. If they were going more a more serious approach, they might have gone with the flap and buttons, which would probably lend itself more to a leathery-looking suit.
Spoiler:
To be fair to the Marvel family, their adventures weren't always about goofy characters like Mr. Mind and Tawky Tawny like many think. They had darker villains like Ibac and Sabbac, and horror elements that crept into their comics in the '50s. Meanwhile, Superman had a lot of goofy comic villains of his own. But this film seems focused on the Marvels' lighter side, which is fine.