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2018/07/23 06:08:49
Subject: [2000] - Chaos - NL+AL
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Hi, im getting ready for a tournament with ITC rules at 2k points in a few weeks, and i want some opinions on the list i think i will play, some suggestions could be good too, anything constructive would be fine.
Alpha legion battalion detachment.
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Sorcerer, mark of slaanesh
Sorcerer with jumpack mark of tzeench.
Troops
3x10 cultist.
Alpha legion Vanguard detachment
2x hellbrutes (twin lasscanons+missile launcher) mark of tzeench.
7x noise marines (sonicblasters+blastmaster)
Heavy support
Predator (4lasscanons) mark of tzeench.
Havocs (2 heavy bolter+ 2 misile launcher.) mark of slaanesh
Night lords Outrider detachment.
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Chaos lord with terminator armor
2 Lightting claws= relic claws of the black hunt
Warlord trait: Flames of spite
mark of slaanesh
Fast attack
2x5 raptors (2 plasma gun 2 plasma pistol) mark of slaanesh
1x5 raptors (2 melta gun 1 combi melta) mark of tzeench
1X3 bikers (2 melta gun 1 combi melta) mark of nurgle
Flyer
Helldrake (bale flamer) mark of slaanesh
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2018/07/23 09:23:11
Subject: [2000] - Chaos - NL+AL
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Been Around the Block
Turin (Italy)
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That's very different from the kind of army I would play, but it's not bad honestly. There are a few things I don't understand though.
1) why not making all of them Alpha Legion? U will answer, because of the -1 LD. But I really think all the raptors will face will be layers and layers of imperial guards, termagaunts, cultists, kabal warriors and the like - that is, very squishable things that you could easily kill in any way even without the -1/-2/-3 Ld. Instead, having a full Alpha Legion army will make it harder for ur opponents to hit you, make the Lord aura much more effective, etc.
Secondly, why no Obliterators? A couple units with mark of Slaanesh would be perfect for this style of play... What do you think?
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2018/07/23 21:50:35
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos - NL+AL
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Fresh-Faced New User
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1)Because i like night lords, the leadership debuff helps clean the screen faster, yeah, alpha legion trait is stronger, but the relic works great with my warlord, their stratagem is not bad, you can say cost CP, yeah but makes your opponent uncertain on were to shoot among other stuff.
2) I dont have obliterators thats why, ive tried to get some but im in México, so havent had luck, ive been thinking about kit bashing, but so far no $$$ to invest on them.
Other stuff ive been thinking is to give the tzeench sorcerer a disc, but not sure if it is worth it or if i shoult stick with the jumpack.
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2018/07/23 22:25:00
Subject: [2000] - Chaos - NL+AL
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Been Around the Block
Turin (Italy)
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ok those are pretty solid reasons ^^
I don't think a disc is useful, 15 points for 1 more S4 attack doesn't make much sense to me.
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2018/07/23 22:31:24
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos - NL+AL
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well it gives you 5+ inv too, thats more the reason i want the disc, i keep the mobility and earn an inv.
Another thing i thought it was to fuze the barebones lord and the slaanesh sorcerer into a daemon prince with wings, i think i get the best of both plus the movement and cheapper, what do you think?.
Are the MSU, cultist squads good?, most people is telling me that i should play them in big blobs, but i only have those, and im not sure if basic csm are worth it.
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2018/07/24 10:20:58
Subject: [2000] - Chaos - NL+AL
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Been Around the Block
Turin (Italy)
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ok true, but I still say it's not worth the cost
If you take 1 DP instead of sorcerer+lord you're 1 HQ short for the detachments to be legal, or am I missing sthing?
As for the cultists I believe you should field as many as you can, possibily 1 big blob of 30-40 and several 10-strong units... The small ones act as screens, prevent deep strikes and secure objectives, the big one is great to annoy your opponent (especially with a Dark Apostle and possibly the mark of khorne for the Stratagem)
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2018/07/24 16:51:27
Subject: Re:[2000] - Chaos - NL+AL
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Fresh-Faced New User
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ive been thinking and i have decided ur right im gonna play full alpha legion for competitive, this are the rest of the models i own, what changes would you do with them?:
Hq:
Chaos lord with 2 LC
sorcerer in terminator armor
dark apostle
exalted champ with power axe
lucius
sorcerer with jumpack
troops
5 CSM
1 blastmaster
2 CC noise marines
elite
hellbrute power fist+multi melta
hellbrute power fist+scourge
fast attack
warp talons (1 can be used like a HQ)
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2018/07/24 17:20:22
Subject: [2000] - Chaos - NL+AL
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Been Around the Block
Turin (Italy)
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I'm a big fan of Dark Apostles maybe him and 1 more Hellbrute in place of the Drake? I don't know though, I never played several of these units
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