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I have no Primaris marines so please no "You should get Primaris this and that"

Double Battalion gives you 10 Command Points. 2 Warlords!

Battalion 1

Chaplain
Terminator Armour
Storm Bolter
Crozius Arcanum
WARLORD: IRON RESOLVE
102


Lieutenant
Chainsword
Storm Bolter
62

TROOPS

Scout Squad (5 man)
Sergeanrt w/ Boltgun & Chainsword
3 Scouts w/ Boltguns
1 Scout w/ Heavy Bolter
65


Scout Squad (5 man)
Sergeanrt w/ Boltgun & Chainsword
3 Scouts w/ Boltguns
1 Scout w/ Heavy Bolter
65

Tactical Squad (10 man)
Sgt w/ Chainsword & Combi-Flamer
7 Tacticals w/ Boltguns
1 Tactical w/ Flamer
1 Tactical w/ Plasma Cannon
171

ELITES

Terminator Assault Squad (5 man)
Terminator Sgt w/ Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
2 Assault Terminators w/ Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
2 Assault Terminators w/ Lightning Claws
Teleport Homer
217

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad (5 man)
Sgt w/ Chainsword & Boltgun
Missile Launcher
Lascannon
115

DEDICATED TRANSPORT

Rhino
Hunter Killer Missile
Storm Bolter
78

875 points


BATTALLION 2

Captain
Power Armour
Power Sword
Storm Bolter
WARLORD: STORM OF FIRE
80

Librarian
Terminator Armour
Force Stave
Storm Shield: RELIC THE SHIELD ETERNAL
Psyhic Powers: Might of Heroes. Fury of the Ancients
143

TROOPS

Scout Squad (5 man)
Sgt w/ Bolgun and Chainsword
3 Scouts w/ Boltguns
1 Scout w/ Heavy Bolter
65

Tactical Squad (10 man)
Sgt w/ Chainsword & Combi-Flamer
7 Tacticals w/ Boltguns
1 Tactical w/ Plasma Cannon
1 Tactical w/ Grav Gun
177

Tactical Squad (10 man)
Sgt w/ Chainsword & Combi-Flamer
7 Tacticals w/ Boltguns
1 Tactical w/ Multi- Melta
1 Tactical w/ Grav Gun
183

ELITES

Company Veterans
Vet Sgt w/ Chainsword & Storm Bolter
Veteran w/ Boltgun & Chainsword
34

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad (5 man)
Sgt w/ Chainsword & Boltgun
Missile Launcher
Lascannon
115

DEDICATED TRANSPORT

Rhino
Hunter Killer Missile
Storm Bolter
78


875


1750


Chaplain and Librarian Terminator stay in reserve with the Assault Terminators

Captain and lieutenant deploy with the devastators to give them reroll to hit and wound failed ones. Along with +1 AP on rolls of 6s to wound!

The 2 Plasma Cannon tactical squads go in the rhinos

The Veterans deploy with the remaining tactical squad on foot.

The Scouts form a screen for the Devs and footslogging tac squad. Able to use hellfire shells using CPs.

Wow okay where to start?

Let's see.... well off the bat you don't get 2 warlords. your warlord is your overall commander. you only ever get one (unless you're alpharius)

10 man tactical squads should almost never be seen. they're vulnerable to morale, and not in a great place anyway this edition? Combat squad your 10 man units; and put 2 of your combi-flamer and flamer squads in the rhino. maybe drop the company veterans and upgrade the second rhino to a razorback for your 3rd flamey combat squad? I mean why are they deploying with the tactical squads? their whole point is to take wounds for characters xD

feel free to DM me or get a thread rolling here? loving the boots on the ground; my ultramarines play the same style-ish?

you don't have a whole lotta long range firepower bro, and those tactical squad loadouts, while fluffy, are about the worst special&combi combo due to what 8th did to flamers (I know, I'm pissed too; my Reach&Macragge pushfits are starting a support group)

Not tryna be harsh, just tryna help?
GamerGuy

thanks for critique!

So even if you're taking 2 battalions you only get one warlord? ok.....well that#s easy to fix


10 man tacticals vulnerable to morale.....i'd have thought numbers would help when you don't have Primaris to soak up wounds.

Veterans are only in the list cause i had spare points and couldn't get an Apothecary. they can disappear.

The tacticals loadout is mainly down to Salamanders tactics...


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and if you don't like 10 man tactical squads should they be combat squadded or should they be in 6 man squads



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OK then! Revised LIST!

I'm not dropping any of the tacticals but i will be combat squadding them

Battalion 1

Chaplain
Terminator Armour
The Armour Indomitus
Storm Bolter
Crozius Arcanum
10

Primaris Lieutenant
Master Crafted Auto Bolt Rifle
74

TROOPS

Scout Squad (5 man)
Sergeanrt w/ Boltgun & Chainsword
3 Scouts w/ Boltguns
1 Scout w/ Heavy Bolter
65


Scout Squad (6 man)
Sergeanrt w/ Boltgun & Chainsword
3 Scouts w/ Boltguns
1 Scout w/ Shotgun
1 Scout w/ Heavy Bolter
76

Tactical Squad (10 man)
Sgt w/ Chainsword & Combi-Flamer
7 Tacticals w/ Boltguns
1 Tactical w/ Plasma Gun
1 Tactical w/ Missile Launcher
179

ELITES

Terminator Assault Squad (5 man)
Terminator Sgt w/ Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
2 Assault Terminators w/ Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
2 Assault Terminators w/ Lightning Claws
Teleport Homer
217

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad (5 man)
Sgt w/ Chainsword & Boltgun
Missile Launcher
Lascannon
115

DEDICATED TRANSPORT

Razorback
Lascannon & Twin Plasma Gun
115


BATTALLION 2

Librarian
Terminator Armour
Force Stave
Storm Shield: RELIC THE SHIELD ETERNAL
WARLORD: IRON RESOLVE
Psyhic Powers: Might of Heroes. Fury of the Ancients
143

Techmarine
Power Sword
Storm Bolter
Servo Arm
63


TROOPS

Scout Squad (6 man)
Sgt w/ Bolgun and Chainsword
3 Scouts w/ Boltguns
1 Scout w/ Shotgun
1 Scout w/ Heavy Bolter
76

Tactical Squad (10 man)
Sgt w/ Chainsword & Combi-Flamer
7 Tacticals w/ Boltguns
1 Tactical w/ Multi-Melta
1 Tactical w/ Plasma Gun
181

Tactical Squad (6man)
Sgt w/ Chainsword & Combi-Flamer
7 Tacticals w/ Boltguns
1 Tactical w/ Plasma Cannon
110

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad (5 man)
Sgt w/ Chainsword & Boltgun
Missile Launcher
Lascannon
115

DEDICATED TRANSPORT

Razorback
Lascannon & Twin Plasma Gun
115


1746

Combat Squad 2 tactical Squads to go in the Razorbacks

MIssile Launcher tacs stay back with devs?

Scouts deploy as screening.

Techmarine goes with tac squad in a Razorback

Lieutenant provides rerolls to wound for as many missile launchers as possible.

better??

Much better!

nice good. don't have to really do too much to swap round either!


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10 Command Points meaning can use Hellfire Shells a lot with the Scouts.

Terminators reroll all failed hits in CC and LCs reroll failed wounds...

Librarian is a 6 wound CC beast...

Razorbacks getting repaired by techmarine

Dev Squads and Missile Tacs rerolling failed rolls to wound of 1.

And everything rerolling a single failed roll to hit every phase

Quick note.

Just managed to snag a free Primaris Lieutenant in magazine so changing list to have him with a Master Crafted Auto Bolt Rifle.

Losing a shotgun scout from first scout squad.

fair enough

Just realised my Librarian was over costed as hadn't used updated points! So now list includes.......AN APOTHECARY

And lieutenant has Stalker Bolt Rifle to give him long range ability.

Chaplain also was over costed

Battalion 1

High Knight Chaplain Hiro Jarulek
Terminator Armour
The Armour Indomitus
Storm Bolter
Crozius Arcanum
102

Second Company Primaris Lieutenant Cato
Master Crafted Stalker Bolt Rifle
75

TROOPS

Scout Squad Siegfried (5 man)
Sergeanrt Artur Siegfried w/ Boltgun & Chainsword
3 Scouts w/ Boltguns
1 Scout w/ Heavy Bolter
65


Scout Squad Magnuson (5 man)
Sergeant David Magnuson w/ Boltgun & Chainsword
3 Scouts w/ Boltguns
1 Scout w/ Heavy Bolter
65

Second CompanyTactical Squad Kratos (10 man)
Sgt Aurelius Kratos w/ Chainsword & Combi-Flamer
7 Tacticals w/ Boltguns
1 Tactical w/ Plasma Gun
1 Tactical w/ Missile Launcher
179

ELITES

Terminator Assault Squad Olliver (5 man)
Terminator Sgt Geralt Olliver w/ Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
2 Assault Terminators w/ Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield
2 Assault Terminators w/ Lightning Claws
Teleport Homer
217

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad Perain (5 man)
Sgt Leander Perain w/ Chainsword & Boltgun
Missile Launcher
Lascannon
Armorium Cherub
120

DEDICATED TRANSPORT

Razorback
Lascannon & Twin Plasma Gun
115


BATTALLION 2

High Mage Librarian Artur Yvraine
Terminator Armour
Force Stave
Storm Shield: RELIC THE SHIELD ETERNAL
WARLORD: IRON RESOLVE
Psyhic Powers: Might of Heroes. Fury of the Ancients
120

Second Company Techmarine Pius Fabio
Power Sword
Storm Bolter
Servo Arm
63


TROOPS

Scout Squad Frederick (5 man)
Sgt Georgio Frederick w/ Boltgun and Chainsword
3 Scouts w/ Boltguns
1 Scout w/ Heavy Bolter
65

Tactical Squad Atreus (10 man)
Sg Kor Atreust w/ Chainsword & Combi-Flamer
7 Tacticals w/ Boltguns
1 Tactical w/ Multi-Melta
1 Tactical w/ Plasma Gun
181

Tactical Squad Apollo (5 man)
Sgt Zeus Apollo w/ Chainsword & Combi-Flamer
3 Tacticals w/ Boltguns
1 Tactical w/ Plasma Cannon
97

ELITE

Apothecary Christoph Namon
Chainsword & Bolt Pistol
55

HEAVY SUPPORT

Devastator Squad Ignius (5 man)
Sgt Nathan Ignius w/ Chainsword & Boltgun
Missile Launcher
Lascannon
115

DEDICATED TRANSPORT

Razorback
Lascannon & Twin Plasma Gun
115


1749




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Scouts are wounding on 2+ with hellfire shells from heavy bolters.

Missile Tacs and Dev Squads are rerolling to wound if they're within 6" of Lieutenant...

Lieutenant can hit stuff up to 36" away and wound at AP-2!

Dev Lascannons or Missile Launchers fire at BS+1 due to Signum

Techmarine heals Razorbacks when needed (hopefully!)

Tac Sgts have Combi-Flamers for crowd control.
Assault Terminators are rerolling to hit and Librarian with them can give Assault Sergeant or Chaplain Might of Heroes





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Nearly finished all Infantry models.

Just have one Dev squad and 3 Scout squads to go!

I'm not sure why Salamanders for this list. An infantry-heavy list like this lends itself better to either Ravenguard or Ultramarines. Salamanders works better when using lots of small units with a single-shot heavy or special weapon.

E.g.
5 tactical marines inc. Lascannon for reliable, long range AT damage.
5 tactical marines inc. Meltagun for reliable, short range AT damage.

Same for scouts with missile launchers etc - basicallly Salamanders works best with small units containing AT weapons, whilst vehicles and the Standard bolsters are best for anti infantry (for which Razorbacks are second to none, and lend themselves to he small infantry squads)

With larger units, Ultramarines tend to be better so you can avoid getting tied up in combat (larger unit, easier to charge). Ravenguard and the -1 to hit is fairly self explainatory.

Salamanders for the reroll of one failed roll to hit.

I can see how Ultramarines are nice but i've never been a fan of the Smurfs.

It is a wound roll as well i thought for the salamanders. So re roll ones with a lieutenant and a single wound roll as well potentially.

indeed it is! a single rerolled failed to hit and a single rerolled failed to wound!




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Plus it's far simpler to remember than other Codexes special rules.