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I was on a waiting list to buy some books, which weren’t in stock, but now are for an additional $210 increase... due to the new dollar
Convenience they mandated for orders to the US

Are there any drop shipper like businesses in the UK? I had budgeted for the books properly, but won’t ever pay $800+ for 9 books

It’s no different than selling used items on eBay it looks like to me, as there is no VAT or tax implications...

So, not recasasts, or reprints... someone who I can have items shipped to then charges me a small fee and the shipping to me

Does that exist?

I know I could just send a friend when visiting too...

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Not that I'm aware of. It's gonna be like it was way back when I first got into 40k, and Forge World models were an urban legend that you only saw in a picture-book called 'Imperial Armor' that one weird guy showed up with. And on the off chance you did see someone with a Forge World model, and it wasn't a fake 10-pound cast from a half-assembled original model that smelled like gasoline... it was something he got through a guy that knows a guy that smuggled it in his backpack from Hungary.

They sort of sealed their fate for US support with this one. But there are a lot of Chinese dudes popping champagne bottles right now.

Because I think many players will be purchasing very interesting proxy models from overseas.

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I was only going to buy the books too lol. Had the money

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noexit1982 wrote:
I was only going to buy the books too lol. Had the money


Now I'm not going to sit online and tell you that it's okay for you to go and find some PDF on the internet and just print out what you need, that'd probably be morally questionable and not okay by the website's rules.

But, what I can say just based on the way people are feeling about this- you could probably find a insanely similar proxy model for what you want to use and print out a few pages and most people out there would probably shrug, all things considered.

I'm not condoning this at all, but I'm telling you that most people wouldn't care.

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Try this anti-scalping FB group, which i believe was set up by Dakka member Mad Doc Grotsnik, im a member and have helped out a few over seas members get hold of WHW and event exclusives.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1710575492567307/?multi_permalinks=2014403055517881¬if_id=1533150229411125¬if_t=group_activity
   
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Forgeworld has never been about intelligent business practices. Why start now?

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I'm afraid not. I mean you could use a shipment forwarder in the UK, they are pricy but with the new inane prices you might still save some cash. Alternatively go on a pilgrimage to Nottingham and buy the stuff there.

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Gathering the Informations.

Check iTunes to see if the books are there.

I got the FW Index Imperium book for $16, and it gets updated whenever there's FAQs.
   
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Not gonna lie I live about 2 minutes from the new warhammer citadel and when they released their price guide the other day for FW stuff and it still is all marked up with the insane exchange prices I won't be buying any actual FW from the store.
   
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You are essentially looking for grey importers - nothing illegal they just buy and then resell and with the markup so big now there's actually a potential profit margin even if they are buying at brand new prices and then just reselling and posting on secondhand.

I'd figure if FW keeps these prices then pretty soon the USA and a few other areas will find that there are at least one or two legitimate ebay stores that pop up who will buy local in the UK and then ship overseas; it won't be "as cheap" as direct UK buying, but it will still likely be cheaper than going through FW USA - at least for the bigger items.

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ERJAK wrote:
Don't buy forgeworld because it's overrated garbage and their resin melts in the sun?


A, When the OP is talking about buying books, complaining about the resin seems... odd?
B, Gonna need you to cite a source for the latter, especially as a FW-only feature. Sufficient heat causing resin to warp is a known thing, but hardly FW-exclusive - but out-and-out melting?

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The source is "make up". FW resin is just fine, under anything resembling normal treatment there is no heat risk and even if you mistreat your models the worst you're going to get is warping that you can fix.

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 Marmatag wrote:
Forgeworld has never been about intelligent business practices. Why start now?


So GW is? Note the pricing structure is same for both now...GW just now moved both to same. Quite possibly by order from GW mains.


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ERJAK wrote:
Don't buy forgeworld because it's overrated garbage and their resin melts in the sun?


Howabout stop spreading that melting lie? I have FW models next to window and and even past summer(this year rather unusually hot to boot) no effect whatsoever

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I just heard on a recent podcast that FW are opening a US warehouse right now. This will end all your issues I suspect.

I think it was on the Long War podcast one of the last 2 episodes.

EDIT: see following link

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/06/forge-world-better-service-faster-shipping/

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The problem with a UK drop shipper, or just someone you know is that sending a bunch of books to the US from the UK is going to cost quite a lot. Shipping between US and the UK either way is expensive, especially if they're heavy books.

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phillv85 wrote:
The problem with a UK drop shipper, or just someone you know is that sending a bunch of books to the US from the UK is going to cost quite a lot. Shipping between US and the UK either way is expensive, especially if they're heavy books.


Shipping services circumvent customs (as far as I'm aware) and the cost of international shipping though. You'd really need to judge it on a per order basis.


 
   
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Not the ones I used to use for my arcade stuff I got from Japan. I'd have to pay for:

The item
domestic shipping
repackaging
international shipping.

A £5 Neo Geo cartridge could quickly become a £30 cart + import fees.

I'm not sure on Import fees in the US, they may have a higher threshold. Books also don't count for duty coming into the UK, not sure how that would work for the US though.

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Wow, those USD prices are jaw dropping. Having a hard time figuring out what GW is thinking here. This does not seem like a smart way to make money by heavily dis-incentivizing anyone in the US from buying FW products.

Like was mentioned above I would just keep an eye on E-Bay, I would be surprised if you didn't see an explosion of FW stuff on there with a small mark up from the UK prices in a week or two.

Also all of the "resellers" are having a party right now with the thought of all of the money they will be raking in shortly.

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 nurgle86 wrote:
I just heard on a recent podcast that FW are opening a US warehouse right now. This will end all your issues I suspect.

I think it was on the Long War podcast one of the last 2 episodes.

EDIT: see following link

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/08/06/forge-world-better-service-faster-shipping/

Except that is the reason/excuse for the price hikes.

They definitely helped make the decision for anyone that was on the fence with ordering FW within the US.

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I have a Credit Card that allows me to pay in local currency and just charges the posted exchange rate with no other fees. Try to find one of these for yourself if all you're worried about is the unfavorable exchange rate from FW.
   
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Just get on a budget airline and fly over...

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 ikeulhu wrote:
They definitely helped make the decision for anyone that was on the fence with ordering FW within the US.


So have you been boycotting GW proper then? After all same pricing structure. Indeed likely decision for change came from GW HQ.

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It might be the same structure but the FW prices are much greater than GW ones. GW hasn't got anything over the £100 mark and don't seem to want to go that high either. FW has a LOT of stuff well over £100 and a lot that is less is infantry, troops or other things you are likely to take more than one of (and might have too to make a viable list). So the effect of the rise in price is far more noticeable.

Couple that to the fact that the MARKETING for this rise was non-existent. Instead all GW said was "cheaper faster shipping with more localised warehouses". There was no mention of adjusting prices; adapting to a new currency conversion nothing. Instead it was all shown to be a cheaper option to the customer. So of course there is huge backfire when the prices wind up more expensive (or just as expensive as before with the old shipping only now its not the shipping that is high its the model)

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Yes but either way both are screwing US/australia by same %. Illogical to think one is OK and one is bad.

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Well to be fiar no one likes the GW central policy either. However those price rises were typically done in smaller stages. They were also not done off the back of marketing that advertised cheaper product delivery with no mention of a prise rise.

It's not a case that one is better than the other; but that one was marketed far worse and that the price rise gap between actual exchange and GW's rate is far bigger. On some of the biggest the difference is well into the £100s for a single purchase.

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Come on holiday to England. Buy what you want, claim your 20% VAT back at the airport.

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I buy a lot of stuff for my aussy mates and send it over, even with shipping it’s still much cheaper than the new prices, I don’t charge for it either, the only downside is sometimes they get hit with a small import tax... and yet it’s still cheaper.
   
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My best idea would be asking a member of the community (via Facebook/Dakka/Twitter/whatever) who lives close to WHW if they could pick up what you're after in person, and then ship over to wherever it's good.

Do a standard exchange of currency, pay them back for the shipping fees, and you'll get a lovely piece of genuine FW resin.

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