Weyland-Yutani - Building Better Terrains - WTC Edition

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**pizzaguardian**

Hey fellow Dakka people,

We are proud to announce a new type of terrain we design and produce. Terrain 2.0

Terrain 2.0 is the new way of tabletop terrain. Made from Forex, our new terrain is durable, light and uniform still while looking great!

Oure pre-painted terrain is great both for the tabletop gamer at home, who needs to clear the table for the upcoming book club in the morning. Or the tournament organiser who needs to transport dozens of tables worth of terrain in just a few boxes without breaking any piece.

Terrain 2.0 can be assembled-dissassembled without any glue incredibly fast. This saves you both time and space!

https://www.weyland-yutani-inc.com/

This terrain was used in the European Team Championship 2018 in Zagreb this August, much to everybody's liking. If you are interested you can check online store and if you have any questions i will be glad to answer them.

Check out our facebook page for photos and other news https://www.facebook.com/pg/weylandyutaniinc/photos/?tab=album&album_id=275415429735109

News of September 2019; We have partnered with ETC!

pizzaguardian wrote:
Not sure if its ok to bump a near year old thread. If not, mods can just close this and i will open another one.

In the meantime we have been busy. We partnered up with ETC to and provided several hundred pieces of terrain to the event this year.

If you want to practice with exact same terrain used on the ETC, check out our new ETC terrain range here;

https://www.weyland-yutani-inc.com/collections/terrain-2-0-etc-2019-edition

**insaniak**

Clip together, flat pack terrain is a nice idea, and I hope it works for you, but I think it would do better if you can find a way to better disguise the giant tabs and the stark white edges. More interesting building designs also wouldn't hurt.

**str00dles1**

Yea. It seems like a nice set if you need something quick for events, but the white edges and tabs are a total pass. You need matching color at least of what the siding of it is. So black brick is black edges, etc. Looks way to cheap otherwise

**ProtoClone**

I don't know, I really like them.

I am a gamer who has a very limited amount of storage for things and this hits all the right notes for me.

I can overlook the edges and the tabs in favor for convenience. Also, I can always just color those edges to match the rest.

**AAN**

str00dles1 wrote:
Yea. It seems like a nice set if you need something quick for events, but the white edges and tabs are a total pass. You need matching color at least of what the siding of it is. So black brick is black edges, etc. Looks way to cheap otherwise

Hmm, exactly my 1st thoughts...

**pizzaguardian**

Thanks for the comments, we are working on improved designs always so will take your feedback into account.

The white edges, some people liked them because it adds contrast to the terrain. But i can see what you guys mean and will keep it in mind.

**leopard**

May be a simple idea but is it worth considering buildings in a lighter style? like a washed grey or something?

idea being to make the white bits look like they have actually been highlighted that way?

**Manchu**

Pre-printed cardboard terrain ... I'm not sure there is a market for it. For a long time, terrain was either homemade or bought at a dear cost in resin. But we've had a MDF boom since then. And I think even the MDF boom may now be invalidated by the appearence of so much high quality, relatively affordable plastic terrain from GW (a company which has also realized they were leaving money on the table by not tying official rules and official terrain kits together). Mantic also makes very affordable terrain in plastic. Even if this cardboard stuff is really cheap, it's still competing against the likes of Plast Craft.

I guess the market could be underfunded, underprepared TOs. I guess it's better than this:

http://standwargaming.blogspot.com/2018/05/london-40k-gt-review-worst-tournament.html

**notprop**

insaniak wrote:

Clip together, flat pack terrain is a nice idea, and I hope it works for you, but I think it would do better if you can find a way to better disguise the giant tabs and the stark white edges. More interesting building designs also wouldn't hurt.

A sharpie marker is best and quickest. Just choose the closest colour.

Maybe the could include one in the packaging or use coloured foamboard.

**pizzaguardian**

Manchu wrote:
Pre-printed cardboard terrain ... I'm not sure there is a market for it. For a long time, terrain was either homemade or bought at a dear cost in resin. But we've had a MDF boom since then. And I think even the MDF boom may now be invalidated by the appearence of so much high quality, relatively affordable plastic terrain from GW (a company which has also realized they were leaving money on the table by not tying official rules and official terrain kits together). Mantic also makes very affordable terrain in plastic. Even if this cardboard stuff is really cheap, it's still competing against the likes of Plast Craft.

I guess the market could be underfunded, underprepared TOs. I guess it's better than this:

http://standwargaming.blogspot.com/2018/05/london-40k-gt-review-worst-tournament.html

This is not cardboard, it is Forex. Much more durable than cardboard and will not suffer any water damage.

I understand what you mean with the MDF, but the terrain we have doesn't need any permanent assembly. You can dissassemble it and store in a much smaller space. 50 tables worth of terrain fits in only one box that normally stores 1 or 2 tables worth of terrain.

And as it comes pre-painted it will save any TO or club countless man-hours. No more spending late nights before the tournament painting terrain with the Orga crew. Just assemble it in a fraction of the time and be done with it

**Mymearan**

The idea is good, but I would never put it on the table with those stark white edges. Makes it look much more like a cheap toy. Are they paintable with a marker?

**pizzaguardian**

Mymearan wrote:
The idea is good, but I would never put it on the table with those stark white edges. Makes it look much more like a cheap toy. Are they paintable with a marker?

Sure, and we are looking into coloured forex options as well after your guys feedback.

**Elbows**

If you're using Forex which is Sintra more or less (right?) I think you can find it in black, and that would be preferable, though a middle brown/grey would be better.

I don't need collapsible terrain, but I agree - I wouldn't run it with white edges like that. I understand the convenience and do think it would be fine for the tournament folks, but it would be unacceptable on our normal tables here. Simple fix with some paint or pen, but ideally buying it in an alternate colour would be preferred.

Have you considered MDF instead of Forex? Probably cheaper. There are a lot of companies producing MDF kits now with printed on stickered graphices before cutting. The benefit of course is that laser cut MDF doesn't stand out like white Sintra board. But it's an entirely different process of producing it I'm sure.

**Dark Severance**

insaniak wrote:
stark white edges.

Battle Systems terrain had this issue. This is resolved by simply using a pen against the edges. They released various color codes that matched copic and sharpies so that, depending on the piece edge it properly.

**pizzaguardian**

We are thinking of MDF and actually have designs for it produced as well.

But to be honest i think you get a subpar product to the forex in the end. If you get passed the white edges, it is heavier, which sort of goes counter to the point of making transportable terrain. And you have burnt edges which sort of leave a residue, but i understand how people can like that more and we will try to have MDF in the future too.

If you want to see how Terrain2.0 looks up close in a proper tournament setting, here is a video from the Australian 40K Captain of ETC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiMFm-M_SFo&feature=youtu.be

It worked out perfect for the ETC's needs this year. Manhours needed on it was nothing compared to standart terrain, where it needs to be built and painted for weeks in preparation.

**insaniak**

Elbows wrote:

Have you considered MDF instead of Forex? Probably cheaper. There are a lot of companies producing MDF kits now with printed on stickered graphices before cutting. The benefit of course is that laser cut MDF doesn't stand out like white Sintra board. But it's an entirely different process of producing it I'm sure.

Everyone and his dog is using MDF because it's cheap and readily available, but it's not really a great material to work with, and it's really heavy, which pushes up shipping costs. A lighter, plastic option is welcome, it just needs to not look so much like push together terrain.

Nice to see them taking the feedback on board.

**Desubot**

Forex appears to come in black.

and i think that alone would be good enough for most Tournaments and or people with limited space storage or on the go life style.

Its cool stuff. its very niche though. i think it could really benefit from extra layers to thicken it up and give it more of a 3D texture. though that just increases the cost.

**pizzaguardian**

We don't just produce terrain, we produce other gaming aids as well.

Here is our soon to be released 6" objective markers, still tinkering with design so all feedback is welcome.

**Slipspace**

I'd definitely echo what others have said here - the white edges just look terrible to me, but a darker colour would probably work fine.

BTW, if you haven't already done so, you may want to take legal advice about your company name. Weyland-Yutani is almost certainly a trademarked name, given its prominent role in a major movie franchise.

**spiralingcadaver**

Yeah... I didn't say anything before, but I'd be very cautious about branding your company with a major franchise's IP, including borrowing most of its tagline: satire will only get you so far.

**BobtheInquisitor**

To be brutally honest, your name is the kind of oversight that throws all of your other deeds and decisions into question. It's such an obviously, spectacularly bad idea to name your business after one of the most well known and protected trademarks in the world that I can't take any level of competence on your part for granted.

**Dark Severance**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
To be brutally honest, your name is the kind of oversight that throws all of your other deeds and decisions into question. It's such an obviously, spectacularly bad idea to name your business after one of the most well known and protected trademarks in the world that I can't take any level of competence on your part for granted.

The trademark is owned by someone, although it doesn't appear to be owned by who I would think would own it unless it was done as PR Campaign which IPs and people have done for future stuff. At least that is what a basic trademark search shows, Trademark Search

Word Mark WEYLAND-YUTANI CORP WY BUILDING BETTER GUNS
Goods and Services IC 013. US 002 009. G & S: Component parts for guns; Component parts for pistols; Component parts for rifles; Firearms; Gun barrels; Guns; Pistols; Pistols and parts thereof; Rifle barrels; Rifles; Rifles and parts thereof
Mark Drawing Code (5) WORDS, LETTERS, AND/OR NUMBERS IN STYLIZED FORM
Serial Number 87379544
Filing Date March 21, 2017
Current Basis 1B
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition March 27, 2018
Owner (APPLICANT) Oglesby, Paul A. INDIVIDUAL GREAT BRITAIN The Old Vicarage, Main Street Darley GREAT BRITAIN HG32QF
Attorney of Record Peter A. Shaddock II
Disclaimer NO CLAIM IS MADE TO THE EXCLUSIVE RIGHT TO USE "CORP" APART FROM THE MARK AS SHOWN
Description of Mark Color is not claimed as a feature of the mark. The mark consists of a "W" superimposed over a "Y" with the phrase "WEYLAND-YUTANI CORP" appearing above the "W" superimposed over the "Y" and the phrase "BUILDING BETTER GUNS" appearing below the "W" superimposed over a "Y".
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

**BobtheInquisitor**

Are you saying you don't think Disney will squash them like a bug once they acquire all the Fox properties?

**Dark Severance**

BobtheInquisitor wrote:
Are you saying you don't think Disney will squash them like a bug once they acquire all the Fox properties?

No I am not saying that at all. Unfortunately with these types of things it only needs A to say B is infringing, then it becomes A's responsibility to show proof otherwise and/or defend themselves which can include going into legal proceedings. Even if B isn't and is in the right, if A is larger and has more money then they usually prevail.

I simply looked up the trademark and was mildly surprised that it wasn't registered to a studio or who I thought would own it. Now whether someone has reached out to the trademark holder and gotten permission or even if they are the same or know each other in some manner, I have no idea.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

Poking about it gets even more complicated with the original name from Alien being Waylan Yutani

The name "Weylan-Yutani" was created by Ron Cobb, one of the designers of the Nostromo and its crew's uniforms. "One of the things I enjoyed most about Alien was its subtle satirical content. Science fiction films offer golden opportunities to throw in little scraps of information that suggest enormous changes in the world. There's a certain potency in those kinds of remarks. Weylan Yutani for instance is almost a joke, but not quite. I wanted to imply that poor old England is back on its feet and has united with the Japanese, who have taken over the building of spaceships the same way they have now with cars and supertankers. In coming up with a strange company name I thought of British Leyland and Toyota, but we couldn't use "Leyland-Toyota" in the film. Changing one letter gave me "Weylan," and "Yutani" was a Japanese neighbor of mine. ” —Ron Cobb, "The Authorized Portfolio of Crew Insignias from The United States Commercial Spaceship Nostromo Designs and Realizations" by John Mollo and Ron Cobb The original spelling of the Company's name was Weylan Yutani (note that there was no D in the name). At no time in Alien nor in the portfolio was the name of the Company spelled with a D. This was changed to "Weyland-Yutani" in Aliens.

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I wonder if the name change in Aliens was done to try and grab the name which wasn't as 'owned' as they liked? (Contracts in the 70s often left out those little details as GW found to its cost) but it turned out it was too similar?

**pizzaguardian**

There are several companies with official names of "Weyland-Yutani" with some addition or not just in delaware USA. And unless we don't get into the business of terraforming worlds, xenobiology or weapons manufacturing we really can't be mixed with the the company from the movies now can we

.

Thanks for your concerns tough. If we get a C&D from the copyright holders we will look into it.

In the meantime our R&D department is hard at work and has a concept idea to show you. As with our other terrains these future buildings will not need any glue and can be dissassembled for low volume storage and safe transfer.

Edit: Also 1000 posts on dakka! How time flies...

**Mousemuffins**

I like the concept, but I feel black or grey material would be a better choice.

What are you cutting your material with?

**ElvisJuice**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
Poking about it gets even more complicated with the original name from Alien being Waylan Yutani

The name "Weylan-Yutani" was created by Ron Cobb, one of the designers of the Nostromo and its crew's uniforms. "One of the things I enjoyed most about Alien was its subtle satirical content. Science fiction films offer golden opportunities to throw in little scraps of information that suggest enormous changes in the world. There's a certain potency in those kinds of remarks. Weylan Yutani for instance is almost a joke, but not quite. I wanted to imply that poor old England is back on its feet and has united with the Japanese, who have taken over the building of spaceships the same way they have now with cars and supertankers. In coming up with a strange company name I thought of British Leyland and Toyota, but we couldn't use "Leyland-Toyota" in the film. Changing one letter gave me "Weylan," and "Yutani" was a Japanese neighbor of mine. ” —Ron Cobb, "The Authorized Portfolio of Crew Insignias from The United States Commercial Spaceship Nostromo Designs and Realizations" by John Mollo and Ron Cobb The original spelling of the Company's name was Weylan Yutani (note that there was no D in the name). At no time in Alien nor in the portfolio was the name of the Company spelled with a D. This was changed to "Weyland-Yutani" in Aliens.

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I wonder if the name change in Aliens was done to try and grab the name which wasn't as 'owned' as they liked? (Contracts in the 70s often left out those little details as GW found to its cost) but it turned out it was too similar?

Man, it would've been neat if they'd just called it Leyland-Toyota. Alien is so grounded, it'd have fit perfectly. Also, just think of a name for your company. It gives a really bad first impression - "oh, they couldn't be arsed to come up with a name, I bet they've put loads of effort into the product"

**Rayvon**

I really like the idea, space is at a premium for me and these would be perfect as long as I could get rid of the white lines.

I think you will need to take the advice regarding the name on board though if you want to really make a go at this.

You will attract people just because of the name ( not a bad thing you may think ) but when many of these people see that its nothing to do with aliens, they will either leave or find something to criticise as they feel a little misled and then leave.
Obviously there will be some attracted by the name that will purchase, but why risk putting anyone off when you can just use another name and put no one off ?

**pizzaguardian**

Mousemuffins wrote:
I like the concept, but I feel black or grey material would be a better choice.

What are you cutting your material with?

With a Summa CNC.It has problems when cutting round corners, but is great for straight lines.