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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





Hamilton, ON


I have a Slaanesh Daemon army that I've only ever used for 40K, how difficult would it be to be able to use them in AoS as well?

Are square bases a requirement, or was that just for Fantasy?

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Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 02/02/2020)

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Frenzied Berserker Terminator





Canada

Ex! Welcome to the boonies!

As I understand it Chaos Demons are pretty much exactly alike between 40k and AoS, barring a few differences like special characters and whatnot. Of course they're probably going to have different stats and abilities, but for the most part your 40k collection should be able to pull double duty.

Concerning bases, rounds all the way. Square bases are indeed a holdover from FB. Pretty sure either base is fine for AoS so no need to rebase. I think the odd kit will come with square bases but for the most part all AoS stuff comes with rounds now. You might want to check which units have which bases though as some will be on 23mm and others on 32mm.

What have you got in your collection if I may?



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Made in ca
Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





Hamilton, ON

 darkcloak wrote:
Ex! Welcome to the boonies!

As I understand it Chaos Demons are pretty much exactly alike between 40k and AoS, barring a few differences like special characters and whatnot. Of course they're probably going to have different stats and abilities, but for the most part your 40k collection should be able to pull double duty.

Concerning bases, rounds all the way. Square bases are indeed a holdover from FB. Pretty sure either base is fine for AoS so no need to rebase. I think the odd kit will come with square bases but for the most part all AoS stuff comes with rounds now. You might want to check which units have which bases though as some will be on 23mm and others on 32mm.

What have you got in your collection if I may?


Thanks for the tips. I have

Six Heralds; three on foot; two on Steeds and one on a Seeker Chariot
60 Daemonettes
18 Seekers
Five Hellflayers
Zarakynel

and I (currently) plan to add

12 Daemonettes
Six Fiends
Six Seekers
Two Daemon Princes

over the next seven or eight months while I build up 2,000pts of 40K 'Totally Not Cadian' Renegades & Heretics..

Workable?

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The Fall of Kronstaat IV
Война Народная | Voyna Narodnaya | The People's War - 2,765pts painted (updated 06/05/20)
Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 29/12/19, ep10 - And All That Could Have Been)
Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 02/02/2020)

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Canada

I'm no expert but I'd say with that many models you won't have a problem fielding a decent AoS army.

The only thing you might need is an AoS specific HQ but I'm not sure.

I say go ahead and grab the army book for demons and see what you can do! I just got the Beasts army book and it was really well done. I don't think you'll be disappointed.



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Made in ca
Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





Hamilton, ON

 darkcloak wrote:
I'm no expert but I'd say with that many models you won't have a problem fielding a decent AoS army.

The only thing you might need is an AoS specific HQ but I'm not sure.

I say go ahead and grab the army book for demons and see what you can do! I just got the Beasts army book and it was really well done. I don't think you'll be disappointed.


I read a tactica and most of what I have is apparently pretty good in AoS, according to that.

How credible it is, I don't know.

Thanks again.

The Fall of Kronstaat IV
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Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 29/12/19, ep10 - And All That Could Have Been)
Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 02/02/2020)

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Canada

Well when I want to know what's up with a unit or army I always check 1d4chans wiki page. It's not exactly work safe reading over there but they do know their stuff. Plus sometimes it's friggin hilarious.



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According to the rumormongers, Slaanesh is the next god in line for a major update. Expect to see that around the first of the year (Tzeentch and Nurgle each got their AoS updates in late January/early February). Until then, you can use your 40k Slaanesh daemon for AoS no problem. Slaanesh does have a couple mortal units that were ported over from WHFB as well like the Chaos Lord of Slaanesh (formerly Sigvald's model) and Lord of Slaanesh on Daemonic Mount, but you'll probably be seeing a lot more Slaaneshi daemons in the next few months.

2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
 
   
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Canada

Oh, gee I might wait for the update then Ex, before you go and buy more models, unless they're needed for 40k that is.

You never really know what a faction update is going to bring and they might just drop some new models that you'll really want!



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Regular Dakkanaut




As a fellow degenerate I can say that Slaanesh is orders of magnitude better in AOS then it is in 40k ATM. The real gem units are different though. in AOS I have had the best luck with seekers, soul grinders, daemonettes, exalted chariots, and KOS. On the mortal side I would definitely recommend getting Hellstriders. the stacking -1 to hit banners is insane if you get 2-3 of them and keep them near beatsticks like Exalted keeper of secrets (Zarakynel) or soul grinder.

Also consider proxying one of your heralds as a sorcerer lord. The spell for rerolls of 1 to hit, save, and wound is terrifying on a daemonette blob.

The new summoning mechanics for slaanesh are also pretty fun but also fluffy (for each unsaved wound inflicted by a character that does not kill an enemy unit you get points you can spend to summon slaaneshi daemons). This rule basically mandates you bring combat characters and stick them in the enemies big units and/or characters to get the points. It's somewhat situational but boy is it effective against elite armies and slaanesh is pretty much a tarpit shredder anyways so it really shines against what was once considered a more challenging matchup for slaanesh.

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In addition to the advice already given, I'd suggest that you simply play around with the Scrollbuilder to build some lists with what you've got. Along with the free rules and warscrolls in the AoS app, that's really all you need to start out.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/

I'd also recommend that you put this video on while during a painting session, as they go through Slaanesh in AoS and it's very recent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHE60pEs_TM

It's a great AoS Youtube channel for both gaming and the painting side of the hobby.
   
Made in ca
Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





Hamilton, ON

Thanks for everything, peeps.

Do I need to branch out into mortal followers too? Daemons by themselves don't cut it? For clarity, I'm not looking to be all-powerful and uber-killy on the table, I'm much more of a beer and pretzels kind of guy who is interested and wants to maximize the return on what I already have.

I don't have a massive hobby budget, you see, (in fact it's less than $200 CAD a month) I'm not even halfway through a Slaanesh Soup for 40k (which keeps getting bigger and bigger) and have only just started on a gaming table, both of which will consume my entire budget and hobby-time for probably at least the next eighteen months, if not more.

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Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 02/02/2020)

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So in sigmar, you buy by squad. Daemonettes come in 10's and Seekers come in 5's. The FW daemon for slaanesh is the Exalted Greater Daemon of Slaanesh and pretty good. Fiends are currently bad and I wouldn't use them, but perhaps their new kits will get new rules.

Mortal wise, all slaanesh daemons need are Hellstriders of Slaanesh, who are a debuffing unit, also battleline, and has both daemon and mortal keyword.

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2500 points of Ironjawz
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Carnith wrote:
So in sigmar, you buy by squad. Daemonettes come in 10's and Seekers come in 5's. The FW daemon for slaanesh is the Exalted Greater Daemon of Slaanesh and pretty good. Fiends are currently bad and I wouldn't use them, but perhaps their new kits will get new rules.

Mortal wise, all slaanesh daemons need are Hellstriders of Slaanesh, who are a debuffing unit, also battleline, and has both daemon and mortal keyword.


Would like to add that a mortal sorcerer can be very effective if you're running daemonette squads and you can proxy nigh useless foot heralds as a sorcerer no problem




 
   
Made in ca
Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





Hamilton, ON

Ok, so foot Heralds are out, Mortal Sorcerors in.

Can Sorcerors take a mount? I'm not totally opposed to buying new stuff, I just don't want to spend a lot on minis that can only be used in one game, in one army, so if I could get two Hellstrider boxes and run nine dudes and a Sorceror, I'd do that, 'cause I'm not massive on proxies either honestly.

Alternatively, I could just use my kitbashed Daemonette/Cadian Malefic 'Lords'? They have no weaponry, but their torso is blatantly Cadian. Which would offend least, Cadian torsos or Daemons masquerading as mortals?

Is this rules-fishing? Sorry for all the questions, I simply can't afford to be buying more rulebooks at this point. To play my 40k 'soup' requires seven of the [Expletive Deleted] things, including the BRB, so my book budget is exhausted.

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Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 29/12/19, ep10 - And All That Could Have Been)
Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 02/02/2020)

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I think I'd go with Daemons looking mortal-ish, but it's hard to say without pictures.

Also to play AoS you don't have to buy ANY books. Just download the free AoS-app, and you have all the base rules, and all the warscrolls right there.
If you really want to buy a book consider the Generals Handbook (newest edition).
   
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh





Hamilton, ON

My Heralds are very definitely Daemons.


The Fall of Kronstaat IV
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Волшебная Сказка | Volshebnaya Skazka | A Fairy Tale (updated 29/12/19, ep10 - And All That Could Have Been)
Kabal of The Violet Heart (updated 02/02/2020)

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So in AoS Chaos is split up by god, rather than my mortals and daemons.

You you will be running a Host of Slaanesh army. This will let you run anything and everything in the game with the Slaanesh keyword, and they will all benefit from your allegiance abilities.

All you really need at this point, until the proper update come out, is Generals Handbook 2018. The current GHB contains your most up to date point values and all the Slaanesh army special rules.
   
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 Excommunicatus wrote:
My Heralds are very definitely Daemons.



As long as your not running any foot heralds (and why would you since they suck) In addition to the sorcerer I and most people I know would have no problem with running the pictured unit as a sorcerer but ymmv depending on who you play. Alternatively if you absolutely must get a "mortal" sorcerer the dark elf sorceress only costs 20 bucks and would be pretty easy to convert to a slaaneshi character. Sorcerers can take mounts but I've never really needed one to keep in range of what I needed to buff though it's a free upgrade and couldn't hurt. Maybe just get an oval base, put the footslogger sorcerer on one side and a riderless seeker steed on the other or just customize a seeker model

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