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Could one of the Perpetuals have been Jack the Ripper? It crossed my mind because a vampire was Jack the Ripper in Buffy, and I thought "Why not?" Its possible.

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How are we supposed to know? Ýou always come up with the weirdest questions man.

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Its possible.
   
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Onething123456 wrote:
Its possible.


Sure, but I don't think it would be significant.

Jack the ripper killed common folk. Obviously that's horrible, but it has no bearing on the 42nd millennium. It's interesting in Buffy because it's set in our time, where the identity of Jack the Ripper is a mystery some people are still intrigued by. But in 39 millennia this probably won't be the case hah

It's of note that the Emperor could be one of the great historical leaders, because they shaped civilization as a whole. But Jack the Ripper was just a guy who killed some people.
   
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Hmm, let's try some fluff head canon creativity? Victorian London was clearly under the influence of Nurgle to some degree (disease, squalor, despair, death). Those Whitechapel sex workers being the epitome of this (seriously, imagine being a street walker in the 19th Century east end). Why would they need to go?

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Halandri

It was a turf war between a Slaanesh pleasure cult and a Nurgle infestation.

The sewer dwelling street urchins a la Oliver were Nurglings. The Ripper a Slaanesh Herald or magister.

Hmmm this has potential as a novella... West Side Story set in Space Victoria!

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

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Interesting idea that i quite like, I think I might now create a dark heresy campaign around this idea, an immortal human serial killer as an antagonist that keeps popping up even after the players have killed him several times.
   
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 Stux wrote:
Onething123456 wrote:
Its possible.


Sure, but I don't think it would be significant.

Jack the ripper killed common folk. Obviously that's horrible, but it has no bearing on the 42nd millennium. It's interesting in Buffy because it's set in our time, where the identity of Jack the Ripper is a mystery some people are still intrigued by. But in 39 millennia this probably won't be the case hah

It's of note that the Emperor could be one of the great historical leaders, because they shaped civilization as a whole. But Jack the Ripper was just a guy who killed some people.




Google what the Ripper did to Mary Jane Kelly. Its Khrone brutal.


And the only known Perpetual who would not have a problem being Jack the Ripper is Damon Prytanis. He assassinated people who have no bearing in the 42nd millennium.


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 Dysartes wrote:
Why do you insist on creating these threads in General Discussion, rather than Background?




Because I did not think it would fit there.

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I don't see why not, but I also don't see why they would either, it wouldn't make any sense.
However, one of them may have been Matthew Hopkins, the Witchfinder General, rooting out rouge psykers in the 17th century.
   
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 Sir Samuel Buca wrote:
I don't see why not, but I also don't see why they would either, it wouldn't make any sense.
However, one of them may have been Matthew Hopkins, the Witchfinder General, rooting out rouge psykers in the 17th century.



The Perpetuals are cool.
   
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So a crazy person killing prostitues is now being conected to the recent nonsense made by GW? I Guess it could be the case, given how far down the drain we have gone at this moment.
   
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 Trondheim wrote:
So a crazy person killing prostitues is now being conected to the recent nonsense made by GW? I Guess it could be the case, given how far down the drain we have gone at this moment.



The Perpetuals are well written.
   
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Could the real assassin of JFK have actually been some perpetual who was also Jesus and Alexander the Great and the Yeti?
Some say no, other say "Shut the feth up Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl you useless waste of flesh and skin"!

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Onething123456 wrote:
 Trondheim wrote:
So a crazy person killing prostitues is now being conected to the recent nonsense made by GW? I Guess it could be the case, given how far down the drain we have gone at this moment.



The Perpetuals are well written.


No they arn't, they are a gakky retcon that brings in an unneeded stock sci fi trope into 40k while adding little value to the setting
   
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This reminds me of the episode of TOS where Jack the Ripper as voiced by piglet from winnie the pooh infests the Enterprise's computer system after possessing Scotty and making him stab three chicks on Planet Red Light District.

I feel like its integration into 40k lore would most likely be handled at least 60% as stupidly as that episode, so I'm all for it.

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the_scotsman wrote:
This reminds me of the episode of TOS where Jack the Ripper as voiced by piglet from winnie the pooh infests the Enterprise's computer system after possessing Scotty and making him stab three chicks on Planet Red Light District.

I feel like its integration into 40k lore would most likely be handled at least 60% as stupidly as that episode, so I'm all for it.


No doubt the story line would involve a Rouge Trader(!)
   
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nareik wrote:
the_scotsman wrote:
This reminds me of the episode of TOS where Jack the Ripper as voiced by piglet from winnie the pooh infests the Enterprise's computer system after possessing Scotty and making him stab three chicks on Planet Red Light District.

I feel like its integration into 40k lore would most likely be handled at least 60% as stupidly as that episode, so I'm all for it.


No doubt the story line would involve a Rouge Trader(!)



Minor spelling error. And yeah.
   
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Halandri

Pretty clearly spelt as intended .
   
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Definitely intended.
I wouldn’t comment on other people’s spelling.
You wrote Khrone..


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As to Jack the Ripper. No more than any other murderer of note.
Though several could probably be linked into a timeline of several murders coming up periodically..

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Danny76 wrote:
Definitely intended.
I wouldn’t comment on other people’s spelling.
You wrote Khrone..


Automatically Appended Next Post:
As to Jack the Ripper. No more than any other murderer of note.
Though several could probably be linked into a timeline of several murders coming up periodically..



I know. I have spelled wrong before and fix it. But sorry if it was mean. And the Perpetuals are alright.
   
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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Could the real assassin of JFK have actually been some perpetual who was also Jesus and Alexander the Great and the Yeti?
Some say no, other say "Shut the feth up Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl you useless waste of flesh and skin"!


actually there is some very minor evidance that JFK's assasin was indeed a perpetual. John Grammaticus IIRC recalls having to "kill the good man in Dallas"

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BrianDavion wrote:
 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Could the real assassin of JFK have actually been some perpetual who was also Jesus and Alexander the Great and the Yeti?
Some say no, other say "Shut the feth up Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl you useless waste of flesh and skin"!


actually there is some very minor evidance that JFK's assasin was indeed a perpetual. John Grammaticus IIRC recalls having to "kill the good man in Dallas"



Memphis.
   
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The perpetuals are shocking and not needed in 40k. They’ve been shoe horned into 30k to hell out the b,ack library but they are really quite a lazy plot tool that wasn’t ever needed before.

Onething, I know you say they are well written, but without quoting your man off reddit, what is it about them that is well written and how does that justify their existence in the setting? In my opinion they cause nothing but trouble in the 40k setting. Taking away the peril and the grim darkness of the setting.
   
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I agree with the above. Having anyone who was around since ancient greeks till 30k with apparently perfect memories creates all kinds of issues of revealing to much of history and potentially creates a land mine of continuity problems. GW is all ready bad telling instead of demonstrating and the perpetuals are another lazy plot devise.
   
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HoundsofDemos wrote:
I agree with the above. Having anyone who was around since ancient greeks till 30k with apparently perfect memories creates all kinds of issues of revealing to much of history and potentially creates a land mine of continuity problems. GW is all ready bad telling instead of demonstrating and the perpetuals are another lazy plot devise.


How about waiting until we see what they're a plot device for first?

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BrianDavion wrote:
HoundsofDemos wrote:
I agree with the above. Having anyone who was around since ancient greeks till 30k with apparently perfect memories creates all kinds of issues of revealing to much of history and potentially creates a land mine of continuity problems. GW is all ready bad telling instead of demonstrating and the perpetuals are another lazy plot devise.


How about waiting until we see what they're a plot device for first?


If GW manages to come up with something good for the end of the Heresy, I'll admit I'll be impressed. Mostly though, like a lot of the heresy plot devices, they feel like filler. Remember the big set up with the Cabal before
Spoiler:
that went no were and they all got killed off by Eldrad offscreen
.

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BrianDavion wrote:
HoundsofDemos wrote:
I agree with the above. Having anyone who was around since ancient greeks till 30k with apparently perfect memories creates all kinds of issues of revealing to much of history and potentially creates a land mine of continuity problems. GW is all ready bad telling instead of demonstrating and the perpetuals are another lazy plot devise.


How about waiting until we see what they're a plot device for first?


That goes against the very ethos of Dakkadakka.
   
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No jack the ripper was taken by the Vorlons and used to torture/intergate important humans to test them over the years looking for the one
   
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