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I've been considering being really cheeky, but would going Renegade and Heretics for a CP battery for a chaos list work? I don't even care if they're basically just screening chaff, I think it'd just be fun for more serious games to have a better way of farming CP. So far cultists are well and good, but I lack any meaningfully cheap HQs.

2 commanders and 30 Cultists /mutants / militia clock in at 170pts 10 pts cheaper then the IG battery.

Yes it can work buuuuut legion traits are a big deal on cultists so if you don't go for a thematic build you should stay in the CSM book since you gain better hq's.

Additionally even if the price of a IG battalion and a r&h battalion are comparable and technically their combat capability should be aswell, they aren't.
IG to r&h combat ability is night and day, especially on the troop choices. This has to do with the fact compared to guardsmen all r&h options without further support are atleast alone on profile basis overpriced by 25 % or 1 ppm on 4 ppm model.

Basically if the r&h units would be priced" correctly " compared to their guard counterparts they ' d be 3ppm, so whilest you still get cheaper by 10 pts a full battalion, truth is that r&h battalion is Performance wise only worth around 140 pts so you overpay 30pts still.

They give you CP and then they die for their God.

It's what they're for.

++ Brigade Detachment +12CP (Chaos - Renegades & Heretics) [48 PL, 576pts] ++

+ HQ +

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 25pts]: Brutal Assault weapon, Laspistol

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 25pts]: Brutal Assault weapon, Laspistol

Renegade Commander [3 PL, 25pts]: Brutal Assault weapon, Laspistol

+ Troops +

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Renegade Militia with Autogun
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Renegade Militia with Autogun
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Renegade Militia with Autogun
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Renegade Militia with Autogun
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Renegade Militia with Autogun
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun

Renegade Militia Squad [3 PL, 40pts]: 9x Renegade Militia with Autogun
. Renegade Militia Champion: Autogun

+ Elites +

Renegade Enforcer [2 PL, 30pts]: Autopistol, Brutal Assault weapon

Renegade Enforcer [2 PL, 30pts]: Autopistol, Brutal Assault weapon

Renegade Enforcer [2 PL, 30pts]: Autopistol, Brutal Assault weapon

+ Fast Attack +

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

Chaos Spawn [2 PL, 33pts]: Chaos Spawn

+ Heavy Support +

Renegade Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 24pts]
. Renegade Weapon Team: Lasgun, Mortar
. Renegade Weapon Team: Lasgun, Mortar
. Renegade Weapon Team: Lasgun, Mortar

Renegade Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 24pts]
. Renegade Weapon Team: Lasgun, Mortar
. Renegade Weapon Team: Lasgun, Mortar
. Renegade Weapon Team: Lasgun, Mortar

Renegade Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 24pts]
. Renegade Weapon Team: Lasgun, Mortar
. Renegade Weapon Team: Lasgun, Mortar
. Renegade Weapon Team: Lasgun, Mortar

++ Total: [48 PL, 576pts] ++

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swap milita for cultists and or the enforcers for maruders for flavor

I just don't think it's worth it. If you're really desperate for CP, you can have 2 minimum cultist battalions for under 600pts and only 2CP less than a brigade.
CSM have lots of great HQs I reckon you'll get more out of spending the extra on an apostle or ex champ and keep the synergy

Abaddon303 wrote:
I just don't think it's worth it. If you're really desperate for CP, you can have 2 minimum cultist battalions for under 600pts and only 2CP less than a brigade.
CSM have lots of great HQs I reckon you'll get more out of spending the extra on an apostle or ex champ and keep the synergy

You can still cut the price far more down for CP by using R&H don't forget that you literally can get a similiar battalion for 170 pts. Meaning that you can get 10 CP for 340 pts if need be, additionally you get access to stuff like basiliks, Marauders etc. Units that your average CSM list can not field (especially the LOS ignoring ones). Secondly we should not kid our self but you are not going to waste reroll auras or stratagems on msu cultists in a CSM detachment.

Ergo your synergy is irrelevant, because that is there to be used on the Hammer, (from slaneshi kyborgs, to VotLW on that 40 tide of traitors , etc.) Which you can easily fit in one detachment.

it also depends on how many detachments your taking.
If you have the room for 2 detachements good. If not then yeah.


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it also depends on how many detachments your taking.
If you have the room for 2 detachements good. If not then yeah.