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I think I understand this application of modifiers applying AFTER rerolls now but wanted to double check with peoples.

We'll take my Legion of Azgorh Tauruk with Black Hammer of Hashut for an example....that hammer can "reroll hit rolls for attacks made with that weapon".

If an enemy unit makes me -1 to hit in melee for example, but I can reroll all hits with the Black Hammer, and have used my Tauruk's Commmand Ability to get +1 to my hit rolls in melee....

Tauruk normally hits on 3+.

So I roll my 5 attacks, get a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.


Here's where I get confused, is this the correct way to do it?

I keep the 3,4, and 5, since those are all successful before a reroll and therefore before modifiers? Then I would reroll the 1 and 2; what if I got a 2 and 3 for example. The 2 would miss because it's after the reroll and after the modifiers apply (-1+1), and the 3 would still hit after the rerolls/modifiers.



Now this particular artefact says reroll to hit rolls, not reroll FAILED to hit rolls, does that in fact make a difference in the procedure? Or is the rerolling to hit rolls meaning I can reroll any to hit rolls I want, since I know what modifiers will end applying to them after the rerolls? (which if I was out of Command Points would make me hit crappier)

Seems like this applies in 40k too.

Thoughts and/or experiences or pertinent FAQs I haven't found yet?
Thanks!



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Oh, and I found that some units specify rerolling FAILED thingies, for instance the Chaos Warshrine says if the prayer works for a mortal Khorne unit they can "reroll all failed to hit rolls".

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You seem to have the right of it. Many newer players do not realize this and it is a bit strange to wrap one's head around at first so to go into detail:

If something says 'you may re-roll hit rolls' then you can re-roll whatever you like. You could even re-roll 6s if you wanted to miss for some reason (there are some niche situations where that could be desirable).

If something says 'may re-roll failed hit rolls' the situation is a bit different. The key here is the weapon profile. If the weapon has a profile of 3+ then you can re-roll 1s and 2s period; whatever the hit bonuses or penalties you can still only re-rolls 1s and/or 2s. Accordingly if you were at -1 to hit then you would not be re-rolling a 3 even though that is a miss, because it does not become a miss until after re-rolls are applied.

It does work the same as 40k.

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