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Somewhat in the vein of my previous thread about building a better Nurgle Chaos Lord, I've turned my mind towards daemon princes - specifically a better Death Guard Daemon Prince for when you don't want to run Mortarian. Most of this is pretty obvious, but I wanted to put down my thoughts and would welcome your opinions or ideas on how to make this nasty monster even nastier.

Ingredients:
1 Daemon Prince of Nurgle (from the DG Codex)
2 Warlord
3 Psychic Shenanigans
4 Relics
5 Backup

Instructions:
1. Take one ripe Daemon Prince of Nurgle, and equip him with a pair of malefic talons for +3A.
2. and make him your Warlord, giving him Hulking Physique for +1T.
3. Give him the Putrescent Vitality psychic power, and by means of the Chaos Familiar stratagem (found in Codex CSM so you WILL need a CSM detachment for this to work) swap out his Smite for Diabolic Strength. In a turn in which these both go off, your DP will have a grand total of S10, T8 with 8 attacks.
4. Give him the Suppurating Plate relic for increased tankiness, with a 2+ save.
5. Backup. Season with bloat drone sauce à la fleshmower.

Serves 7. Enjoy!

Pretty sure the familiar is also in the DG Codex so no need for a CSM detachment just for that .

Though I see the use of talons and these buffs, I never had a problem with a sword on my prince. He still kills most things he touches and with the sword you can give him that nice flamer. Makes him rather expensive, but princes are very cheap for what they bring, so be nice to your opponent and bring that flamer .

The reason I include Chaos Familiar from the CSM codex is it says a Heretic Astartes Psyker may replace one of its powers with a power from the Dark Hereticus Discipline - whereas the DG one only works on Discipline of Contagion powers, so you couldn't get to Diabolic Strength through the DG Stratagem.

I agree this is not something you throw at a player in a friendly game, but he's still susceptible to lascannons if caught out in the open so he's probably not the tankiest in this edition.

I just feel its better to just use a thousand son's DP if you want to use diabolic strength. You are on the right track for making your daemon prince tanky, but I prefer rotten constitution over +1 T. Reducing D by 1 is a big deal, as most weapons the DP will face or D2 or D d3. Personally i use arch contaminator with my DP, as it buffs a lot of stuff in my army, but that does mean taking a big hit in survivability. Also I fairly certain DP's don't have the infantry keyword, so putrescent vitality doesn't work with them.

yes def better rotten constitution and yes putrescent wont work on them, it works only on dg INFANTRY

Curses, foiled again!

Nevermind, but thanks for pointing that out before I actually made a fool of myself and tried it! I usually run them with Arch Contaminator and Fugaris's Helm as an all-round buffer. Was just wondering if there was a better way to make them tankier and killier. Oh wells, back to the drawing board.

with suppurating plate and rotten constitution he is tanky enough, blade of putrefactions gives him a +1 to wound and that make him killier if you want you can give him demonic axe and you wound anything in game at 2+ beside T8, pity you get the -1 to hit and just 5 attacks not 7.

New recipe:

1. Death Guard Nurgle DP, let him hold those talons.
2. Give him Revoltingly Resilient, he's obviously your warlord. (and this is better than the toughness, imo)
3. Suppurating Plate, keep him safe.
4. Blades of Putrefaction, loving the +1 to wound, he'll slice up anything.

So far you're rocking pure DG codex, but now we add the deamon codex for more flavour:

5. Find a HQ with Virulent Blessing to cast, and make him stand near to old mate warlord for the Nurgle Loci.

Now you got 7 DttFE attacks, hitting on 2's with rerolls. And when you cast both spells, you're wounding on 2's for anything, wounding on 4+ does 3 dmg, 5+ do 5 dmg.

 hollow one wrote:
New recipe:

1. Death Guard Nurgle DP, let him hold those talons.
2. Give him Revoltingly Resilient, he's obviously your warlord. (and this is better than the toughness, imo)
3. Suppurating Plate, keep him safe.
4. Blades of Putrefaction, loving the +1 to wound, he'll slice up anything.

So far you're rocking pure DG codex, but now we add the deamon codex for more flavour:

5. Find a HQ with Virulent Blessing to cast, and make him stand near to old mate warlord for the Nurgle Loci.

Now you got 7 DttFE attacks, hitting on 2's with rerolls. And when you cast both spells, you're wounding on 2's for anything, wounding on 4+ does 3 dmg, 5+ do 5 dmg.

Random sidetrack so bear with me. Saw a post a while back that compares revoltingly Resilient with rotten constitution, and here are the findings. Revolting resilient is better against D1 and D4+, whereas constitution is better against D2 and D3. While this intitually might seem that resilient is better, you have to remember what the deamon prince is likely to face. Since most of time the most dangor he faces will be close combat (since he will hiding from shooting) and most strong close combat attacks in the game tend to around d3 D (constitution is better against d3 D), it is likely your daemon prince should take constitution in most games over Resilient. I do love stacking blades with blessing though, makes the prince hit like a truck..

Is Blades of Putrefaction all that worth it if he doesn't have a Plague Weapon? If you've got a CP to spare, why not Vets of the Long War him? The Daemonic soup recipe sounds pretty gross (in a good way)!

because again vet of long war works only on infantry i have the feeling you need to read better how rules/stratagems works

Evidently so - haven't got my codex with me that's why. Sorry, I'm normally better at this.
I think I probably knew that but because I only ever use it on infantry I forgot about that restriction.

Salt donkey wrote:
Random sidetrack so bear with me. Saw a post a while back that compares revoltingly Resilient with rotten constitution, and here are the findings. Revolting resilient is better against D1 and D4+, whereas constitution is better against D2 and D3. While this intitually might seem that resilient is better, you have to remember what the deamon prince is likely to face. Since most of time the most dangor he faces will be close combat (since he will hiding from shooting) and most strong close combat attacks in the game tend to around d3 D (constitution is better against d3 D), it is likely your daemon prince should take constitution in most games over Resilient. I do love stacking blades with blessing though, makes the prince hit like a truck..

I would love to see the math on that if you remember where you found it, but I will totally take that into account! Thanks.