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I've heard a lot of people making suggestions and rumours that "Orktober" was just a single joke made up by GW and Ork players are taking it too seriously. I've even heard now we won't even get a codex in Orktober. So, let's take a quick random speculation look at the warhammer community site during Orktober and create mass debates about what the Gork is going on at GW! Also, did GW really forget Orktober?

Day One "The Orkkening"
Date: 1st of Orktober
Source: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/01/1st-oct-orktober-1st-introducing-the-orksgw-homepage-post-1/


This is where it all started! The first post given to us by the Holy Geedubs... So let's dive into the quotes I found interesting!

1. "The first day of Orktober is here at last! We’ve got stacks of cool and exciting stuff to show you and talk about over the coming weeks". - So, they name the event Orktober officially on their website. This might have been a throwaway line at the time but it's clear, as seen in the next few articles and in this very quote, that "cool and exciting stuff" is being shown in the coming weeks. However, coming weeks could mean anything really. 2 weeks? 3 weeks? 12 years? Who knows! And they say something cool is coming every new codex.

2. "Over the coming weeks, we’ll be investigating the six major clans of the Orks and their respective kulturs in greater detail, as well as the ancient legend of the Brainboyz and even more besides." Again, "coming weeks" tells us nothing.

Overall, a great way to start the month for Ork players. Generates a little hype and keeps us guessing while making us believe something is coming out soon.


Day Two "Gotta Go Fast!"
Date: 2nd of Orktober
Source: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/02/2nd-orkt-revving-up-for-orktober-on-warhammer-communitygw-homepage-post-1/



Yeah! It's day two and we have a new article! And holy hell! It's a new awesome model! They even but in some time to make an advert on their youtube channel for it! (stock footage ain't cheap!). Looking like Orktober isn't so much of a joke after all!

1. "To celebrate the return of everyone’s favourite green-skinned warmongering, barbaric xenos this Orktober, we’ve got an entire month’s worth of exciting content for you to help get you in the mood for Waaagh!" - It's not hard to see why Ork players got hyped after this. Fresh after seeing an epic new model we are now told that this "entire month" is going to be full of exciting content all dedicated to Orks!!!!


2. "Arriving first this month is the awesome new game all about kunnin’, speedin’ and shootin’. " - We know now the game will be coming out this month before the codex.


3. "Two new vehicles come in the box, but there are more on the way close behind that can also be used in this game!" - The buggies come in the box but later (close behind could mean anything) the other models will come out with the codex.


4. "Next up is Codex: Orks itself. " - It says next up... but never says "this month".... so it's interesting.... suggesting the codex is in November.


5. "Orktober is going to be awesome, so don’t forget to check back each day to see what news and articles we have for you." - Firstly, they're, again, hyping it up.... secondly, they say come back "each day".... remember that.



Day Three "Once upon an Ork"
Date: 3rd of Orktober
Source: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/03/black-library-does-orktober/

1. "You can’t have failed to notice that it’s a very green month – it’s Orktober, and everywhere you go, the Waaagh! is calling." - Third article now really hyping up Orktober. This isn't just a throwaway line shoved into the first article. This is something they're rolling with now!


2. "Black Library’s getting in on the act as well, with a couple of new releases across the month that are a bit green, and there’s plenty more in the archives…" - basically making it a Christmas level event... everyone in every sector of GW is getting ready for Orktober.

Hell! Even the regimental standard is getting in on this stuff! Everyone at GW is Ork crazy!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/03/da-regementul-bosspole-introducin-ded-kunnin-taktiks/


Day Four "Is that Buggy Painted Purple?"
Date: 4th of Orktober
Source: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/04/4th-oct-orktober-reveal-the-mysterygw-homepage-post-3/

Continuing with the Hype Squig Wagon we get a tease of a new vehicle and they name the article "Orktober 4th". - Great, everything is going as planed! We Orks are wetting out pants with excitement!


Day Five "The Forgotten Ork"
Date: 5th of Orktober
Source:?????

Nothing... No article on the community website... Okay, maybe it was just a mistake! Nope... not even a hint of Orks for almost 5 days! This is where it gets confusing. The article before tells us to come back Every day but nothing hugely Ork related comes out for a while soon after that. I'm not sure if GW ran out of marketing faster than they thought, if they had priorities and told the team to stop posting about Orks or if they wanted to settle us down a bit. This one is unusual and is the biggest source of complaints from many Ork players. However, things do pick up again soon but 5 days without hype really did effect their marketing I believe (I know many people in my own online groups forgot about Orktober because they have the attention span of madboyz!).


Day Eight "Orks hate Mondays"
Date: 8th of Orktober
Source: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/08/no-006-holy-book-of-rules/

This one is overlooked by a lot of people. It shows us a popular comic with the characters looking at what is clearly supposed to be a Ork Codex:



A huge indication that the Ork codex is close.


Day Nine "Smart Boyz"
Date: 9th of Orktober
Source: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/09/grim-dark-corners-the-brainboyzgw-homepage-post-3/


1. "Of course, you’ll soon have a new Codex: Orks to get stuck into! Keep your eyes out for this in the coming weeks – rest assured, we’ve got plenty of previews planned, and it’s bound to be packed with new lore to get your teef into." - so it never says the Ork codex is coming out in Orktober but it does say in the coming weeks we will start to see previews of it... However, coming weeks could mean anything from 2-40,000 weeks.


Day Ten "Dakka Dakka"
Date: 10th of Orktober
Source: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/10/da-regementul-bosspole-your-guide-to-dakka/

On the 10th we get another humours Orktober regimental standard to keep the hype going. Great to see this wasn't a one off thing... shows GW's dedication to Orktober!


Day Eleven "#Orktober"
Date: 11th of Orktober
Source: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/11/11th-oct-orktober-11th-a-mystery-revealedgw-homepage-post-3/


"To celebrate #Orktober..." - Interesting there is now a hashtag in front of Orktober now. A few suggestions for why this is the case could be: Firstly, they're trying to turn it into a big viral marketing campaign. Secondly, they're trying to limit it to more of a social media thing rather than an overall GW thing. Thirdly, I'm overthinking a hashtag!

1. "These fantastic vehicles will be available to pre-order very soon, so keep the eyes of your targetin’ squigs open for more details to follow." - soonTM

Hype is back up! Great!

Day Twelve "Speeeeeeeeed!"
Date:12th of Orktober
Source: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/10/12/what-is-the-speedwaaagh/


So, we're back to where we started! Just normal articles every day talking about Orks...

Big Conclusion thingy:

If I was to write a conclusion to this useless post I would say that Orktober is very much a real thing GW was (and is) hoping would be a big thing. Ork players have every right to be hyped! The missing Ork articles is a little weird, but I personally don't believe there is anything to be concerned about because they're right back in with articles every day! Unless they don't do one today... However, I'm going to be updating this post from now on to make constant edits when each article comes out to see if anything tells us anything. But my conclusion is that there doesn't need to be too much to be upset about... just gw is off with their timing that's all. A mistake that rightly deserves criticism but shouldn't diminish the hype and work GW put into orks this month.

As for the codex coming out in November... Well, GW never actually says in any of the Orktober articles that it's coming out in Orktober. Therefore, right now (looking at the ambiguous wording from GW) I would suggest that the codex will be coming out next month and not this month.

Current rumour is preorder on 27th for codex. That IS thus october release for codex in the way GW counts release dates. Shop date is irrelevant. Pre/order date is what counts.

tneva82 wrote:
Current rumour is preorder on 27th for codex. That IS thus october release for codex in the way GW counts release dates. Shop date is irrelevant. Pre/order date is what counts.

hahaha, I'll be buying mine 20% off from an online store so screw that.

I've overlooked the global arms trade, I turned a blind eye to man made climate change and I shed no tears for third world sweat shops but you've finally done it capitalism, you've finally done it! *starts humming the internationale*

Dai wrote:
I've overlooked the global arms trade, I turned a blind eye to man made climate change and I shed no tears for third world sweat shops but you've finally done it capitalism, you've finally done it! *starts humming the internationale*

yes

The long and short of it is that fans should be smart enough to know that when GW hypes something the way they do...you're getting a codex and a few kits. Be happy and move on. The behavior of a lot of the Ork players on this forum has been borderline embarassing.

You already wait over a year and a half, you can wait one more week. And if you expected some kind of full Ork-line revamp...you're out of your minds. Enjoy your new toys.

I didn't realize we needed to explain why someone rode the hype train. Did I miss something?

You're missing two things:

1) The word "Orktober" was used way before October, leading up to even higher expectations. (can't find the initial article, I think it's the very first Speed Freeks preview)
2) This is after GW announces Space Wolves+Ork codexes on June 1st.

Space Wolves released in August, and were set alongside new Genestealer Hybrid models - however, during this ENTIRE timeline, Orks had ZERO official previews, announcements, or discussions.

Currently, Orks are on month 4.5 without ANY news on when the codex will even drop - current rumors are that Speed Freeks box will release Oct27, and the actual Ork codex will be Nov27.

That's 5 months if the codex releases end of Oct, 6 months if the codex releases end of Nov.

It's not our fault that after 4-5 months of ZERO news, despite promises of a codex, COUPLED WITH GamesWorkshop hyping "Orktober" 1-2 months ahead of October, that Orks are in a frenzy.

Has any other codex been released so slowly?

Nevermind we've already been waiting over 1 year 3+ months to get our first book of the edition - our index is overpriced trash; only Boyz/Stormboyz/Kommandos were priced well, and even then; Deep Striking has been heavily nerfed, and the meta is shifting even more to counter hordes, so Green Tide style (which was the only viable style to begin with), is losing major playability.

Orks have every reason to be in an energetic state - anything else would have them quitting the game; lets not forget, Orks haven't been viable in 18 years, since 3rd edition.

Here's my take;

Quick PSA; People aren't annoyed because their toys are 'late'. They're not annoyed because the buggies are the 'only' new models. They're not even annoyed because of a focus on Kill Team and Shadespire at the moment. The reason some members of the Ork community are annoyed is because GW aren't doing what they claimed they'd do;
"To celebrate the return of everyone’s favourite green-skinned warmongering, barbaric xenos this Orktober, we’ve got an entire month’s worth of exciting content for you to help get you in the mood for Waaagh!"
"Orktober is going to be awesome, so don’t forget to check back each day to see what news and articles we have for you."
"Watch out for more Orks vehicles and more rules previews as Orktober approaches…" - Nova Open (THIS WAS POSTED 30th AUGUST!)

This simply hasn't happened and it's all from GW's marketing team. Perhaps if they didn't mislead consumers people wouldn't be upset?

People need to stop strawmanning, trolling and blaming a community that is in no way at fault. If you want to direct your ire anywhere, throw it at the company that misled it's consumers. Members of this forum and on other online communities are quick to pick fault at those Ork players who aren't happy, forgetting (or ignoring) that GW have literally created this mess.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
Here's my take;

Quick PSA; People aren't annoyed because their toys are 'late'. They're not annoyed because the buggies are the 'only' new models. They're not even annoyed because of a focus on Kill Team and Shadespire at the moment. The reason some members of the Ork community are annoyed is because GW aren't doing what they claimed they'd do;
"To celebrate the return of everyone’s favourite green-skinned warmongering, barbaric xenos this Orktober, we’ve got an entire month’s worth of exciting content for you to help get you in the mood for Waaagh!"
"Orktober is going to be awesome, so don’t forget to check back each day to see what news and articles we have for you."
"Watch out for more Orks vehicles and more rules previews as Orktober approaches…" - Nova Open (THIS WAS POSTED 30th AUGUST!)

This simply hasn't happened and it's all from GW's marketing team. Perhaps if they didn't mislead consumers people wouldn't be upset?

People need to stop strawmanning, trolling and blaming a community that is in no way at fault. If you want to direct your ire anywhere, throw it at the company that misled it's consumers. Members of this forum and on other online communities are quick to pick fault at those Ork players who aren't happy, forgetting (or ignoring) that GW have literally created this mess.

It was pretty dumb of them I agree, especially as a company that many people are only really just beginning to believe actually care about their customers again. Whether or not the level of annoyance is justified they could just say if it was an over excited intern/they've been having slight delays for whatever reason.

An Actual Englishman, you being so whinny is rich after what you said about Sisters of Battle players.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
"To celebrate the return of everyone’s favourite green-skinned warmongering, barbaric xenos this Orktober, we’ve got an entire month’s worth of exciting content for you to help get you in the mood for Waaagh!"

Yeah. To GW, an article is "exciting content". An apocrypha article about the brainboyz is content. A preview article is content. A regementul bosspole/Regimental standard article is content. It seem obvious that for you this doesn't count as content, well, joke's on you because GW won't suddenly release more because you aren't satisfied with what you get.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
"Orktober is going to be awesome, so don’t forget to check back each day to see what news and articles we have for you."

They did get a new article almost every day, see OP's recap.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
"Watch out for more Orks vehicles and more rules previews as Orktober approaches…" - Nova Open (THIS WAS POSTED 30th AUGUST!)

They did give you more Ork vehicle previews, unless you missed them. With very awesome and cool videos too. Not sure what the problem is here.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
This simply hasn't happened and it's all from GW's marketing team. Perhaps if they didn't mislead consumers people wouldn't be upset?

Woah the "Plastic Sisters of Battle ???!!!??? [several month pass] Oh wait it was actually Sisters of Silence" marketing team was mean to your feelings! Because you somehow imagined you'd get more than new models and a new codex .


People need to stop strawmanning, trolling and blaming a community that is in no way at fault. If you want to direct your ire anywhere, throw it at the company that misled it's consumers. Members of this forum and on other online communities are quick to pick fault at those Ork players who aren't happy, forgetting (or ignoring) that GW have literally created this mess.

There’s been plenty of ork stuff though? Speedfreaks seems to be entirely new kits, and is being supported with more vehicle kits post launch. Add on the codex and that’s a lot of content

C4790M wrote:
There’s been plenty of ork stuff though? Speedfreaks seems to be entirely new kits, and is being supported with more vehicle kits post launch. Add on the codex and that’s a lot of content

I'm cool with it all, I'm just trying to get others to understand why other Ork players got a little upset when GW didn't talk about orks for almost a week.

I still think GW has some surprises in store for ork players. The hype is definitely real & I don't even play them. Their marketing team did a fantastic job getting everyone excited. Hopefully we'll see some new boyz or HQ options.

We don't need new boyz, the models are plastic and pretty modern.. what we need is our none plastic models to be updated. But yes, the major point of this post was to show that people saying the hype isn't real are wrong. The hype is real and Orktober isn't just a joke made up by GW. They've put a lot of funding into this (more than they usually do). The molds alone would have cost them hundreds of thousands of pounds.

 lolman1c wrote:

C4790M wrote:
There’s been plenty of ork stuff though? Speedfreaks seems to be entirely new kits, and is being supported with more vehicle kits post launch. Add on the codex and that’s a lot of content

I'm cool with it all, I'm just trying to get others to understand why other Ork players got a little upset when GW didn't talk about orks for almost a week.

A WEEK?! THEY DIDN'T MENTION THEM FOR ALMOST ONE WEEK?!

CassianSol wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:

C4790M wrote:
There’s been plenty of ork stuff though? Speedfreaks seems to be entirely new kits, and is being supported with more vehicle kits post launch. Add on the codex and that’s a lot of content

I'm cool with it all, I'm just trying to get others to understand why other Ork players got a little upset when GW didn't talk about orks for almost a week.

A WEEK?! THEY DIDN'T MENTION THEM FOR ALMOST ONE WEEK?!

Orks are very sensitive creators. We need care and attention if we are to grow into big boyz!

 lolman1c wrote:
We don't need new boyz, the models are plastic and pretty modern.. what we need is our none plastic models to be updated. But yes, the major point of this post was to show that people saying the hype isn't real are wrong. The hype is real and Orktober isn't just a joke made up by GW. They've put a lot of funding into this (more than they usually do). The molds alone would have cost them hundreds of thousands of pounds.

I wouldn't say miniatures from 1999 (or was it 2000?) are modern. We need new boyz.

 Gargantuan wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
We don't need new boyz, the models are plastic and pretty modern.. what we need is our none plastic models to be updated. But yes, the major point of this post was to show that people saying the hype isn't real are wrong. The hype is real and Orktober isn't just a joke made up by GW. They've put a lot of funding into this (more than they usually do). The molds alone would have cost them hundreds of thousands of pounds.

I wouldn't say miniatures from 1999 (or was it 2000?) are modern. We need new boyz.

They're an older kit but what would a fresh boys kit really add. Between the 40k boy kit, fantasy orcs and raiding your friends bitz box, the basic boy doesn't need much, it's aged incredibly well. Now getting ride of all the finecast should be a priority.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
An Actual Englishman, you being so whinny is rich after what you said about Sisters of Battle players.

Rule 1.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
"To celebrate the return of everyone’s favourite green-skinned warmongering, barbaric xenos this Orktober, we’ve got an entire month’s worth of exciting content for you to help get you in the mood for Waaagh!"

Yeah. To GW, an article is "exciting content". An apocrypha article about the brainboyz is content. A preview article is content. A regementul bosspole/Regimental standard article is content. It seem obvious that for you this doesn't count as content, well, joke's on you because GW won't suddenly release more because you aren't satisfied with what you get.

That's nice. You need to work on your reading comprehension though. I'm explaining why some players are annoyed. I may or may not be one of these players. What I am sick of is idiots telling me I'm annoyed and 'whinny'.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
"Watch out for more Orks vehicles and more rules previews as Orktober approaches…" - Nova Open (THIS WAS POSTED 30th AUGUST!)

They did give you more Ork vehicle previews, unless you missed them. With very awesome and cool videos too. Not sure what the problem is here.

Again, reading. Note the bit in bold above. Please send links to those new vehicle and rules previews that happened BEFORE ORKTOBER.

 An Actual Englishman wrote:
This simply hasn't happened and it's all from GW's marketing team. Perhaps if they didn't mislead consumers people wouldn't be upset?

Woah the "Plastic Sisters of Battle ???!!!??? [several month pass] Oh wait it was actually Sisters of Silence" marketing team was mean to your feelings! Because you somehow imagined you'd get more than new models and a new codex

Plastic Sisters are completely irrelevant and unrelated. From what I remember GW didn't promise anything for them this side of Xmas.

As for me 'imagining I'd get more than new models and a new codex' see posts above that should clarify my meaning. Alternatively you can read my first post again, but slower this time.

Eh, still don't agree.

You guys are adults, likely ones that have been around GW for a long time. Surely...surely you didn't take GW's normal "hype" for an actual promise of a month filled of Ork content? I mean, that's just you guys setting yourself up for disappointment. You know damn well to take what GW says with a healthy dose of skepticism. I'm just not buying it.

I took a month of content to mean community page stuff like regimental standard, painting guides, light fluff and some occasional previews.

Content doesn't mean new releases every single day!

Manage expectations to avoid disappointment.

 lolman1c wrote:

CassianSol wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:

C4790M wrote:
There’s been plenty of ork stuff though? Speedfreaks seems to be entirely new kits, and is being supported with more vehicle kits post launch. Add on the codex and that’s a lot of content

I'm cool with it all, I'm just trying to get others to understand why other Ork players got a little upset when GW didn't talk about orks for almost a week.

A WEEK?! THEY DIDN'T MENTION THEM FOR ALMOST ONE WEEK?!

Orks are very sensitive creators. We need care and attention if we are to grow into big boyz!

Is "care and attention" an Orky way of saying "a good krumping" because Orks only get bigger if they scrap.

The fact is that a few stores (not GW stores) got messed about as well. Personally my store had an Orktober event expecting the Ork codex to just be around the corner (now the look like fools). And I know some similar stories.... It's just weird to have the marketing hype that led to nothing new.... we now know the codex is most likely not in October now.

GW should have said "here is the boxed game this month and the codex is next month" then continued with their daily articles like they did. I'm not saying any of this made me angry (I can wait a long time for this codex) I'm just saying this is bad marketing from GW.

 Gargantuan wrote:

 lolman1c wrote:
We don't need new boyz, the models are plastic and pretty modern.. what we need is our none plastic models to be updated. But yes, the major point of this post was to show that people saying the hype isn't real are wrong. The hype is real and Orktober isn't just a joke made up by GW. They've put a lot of funding into this (more than they usually do). The molds alone would have cost them hundreds of thousands of pounds.

I wouldn't say miniatures from 1999 (or was it 2000?) are modern. We need new boyz.

The current Boyz box is from 2007. They updated the sculpts in that box, tossed in a ton of new bitz, and dropped the size from 16 Boyz to 10 Boyz + 1 Nob. I have a bunch of Boyz from the old Ork box and the quality in the 2007 box is much higher.

Now sure, that still puts the current sculpts at 10-11 years old, but plenty of kits are that old or older than that and hold up just fine.

If anything, I'd be disappointed if there weren't people here throwing a complete tantrum over total non-issues. The 40k community would be missing one of its core constituencies.

My first game with Orks was against a friend using the 3.5 chaos codex and got curb stomped. Been waiting for my codex for over 15 years, I can wait another week or two.

meleti wrote:
If anything, I'd be disappointed if there weren't people here throwing a complete tantrum over total non-issues. The 40k community would be missing one of its core constituencies.

I don't believe anyone is getting super angry at gw. I think they're critical of GW'S marketing. And it's good to do that! I think that's what makes good customers... always keeping tabs on a company and suggesting ways they should improve. Just some people do it in a different ways to other people but we should respect that and still listen to them even if we don't agree with them.

 lolman1c wrote:
The fact is that a few stores (not GW stores) got messed about as well. Personally my store had an Orktober event expecting the Ork codex to just be around the corner (now the look like fools). And I know some similar stories.... It's just weird to have the marketing hype that led to nothing new.... we now know the codex is most likely not in October now.

GW should have said "here is the boxed game this month and the codex is next month" then continued with their daily articles like they did. I'm not saying any of this made me angry (I can wait a long time for this codex) I'm just saying this is bad marketing from GW.

HAHA, my store did the same thing, actually the 3 stores in my area all did that. Orktober tournaments and events. One store in particular, the owner plays Orkz exclusively, his comment was pure gold. "Well that is about par for the course with GW"

Some of the self entitlement in this thread is hilarious