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Im thinking on making a list of imperial knights with allies.
so far got 2 ideas:
1.

-super heavy detachment:
-castellan
-gallant
-1xarmiger helverin

-supreme comand detachment (BA)
-3x jump pack captain with thunder hammer and strom shield.

-supreme comand detachment (AC)
-3x shield captain on bike.
The idea of this list is to get 2 CP from both comand detachment. Having the blood angels and custodes cap with the gallant to be a threat apart from the castellan.

2.

-super heavy detachment
-castellan
-gallant
-2xarmiger helverin

-supreme comand detachment (AC)
-4x shield captain on bikes.
In this case i lose 1 cp point and trade it for more dakka with the second helverin, and get other cap with bike so i can make division of 2 caps to farm objectives.

Ive heard that the blood angels caps are nasty, kind of similar to the shield captains and the extra CP can be a good add for stratagems.. what you guys think? thx.

First list you have 2 super CP hungry and 1 semi-CP hungry and no CP battery. Your units will work at sub-optimal strenght due to 8 CP. You could easily eat those in pre-game strategems let alone in game.

Yeah.. the thing is i dont want to run batallions. I want low number of minis on my army

In that case you'll struggle. Even dropping 1 Shield Captain will net you almost enough points for a Guard battalion. You'll need as many CP as you can muster.

In that case wich ones are better for battalion admechs or guards?

Guard are a pretty cheap way to get the 5CP, and can be pretty effective thanks to orders.

Admec are better in every way stat-wise, but are more expensive for fewer models, especially the HQs.

zantio wrote:
Im thinking on making a list of imperial knights with allies.
so far got 2 ideas:
1.

-super heavy detachment:
-castellan
-gallant
-1xarmiger helverin

-supreme comand detachment (BA)
-3x jump pack captain with thunder hammer and strom shield.

-supreme comand detachment (AC)
-3x shield captain on bike.
The idea of this list is to get 2 CP from both comand detachment. Having the blood angels and custodes cap with the gallant to be a threat apart from the castellan.

2.

-super heavy detachment
-castellan
-gallant
-2xarmiger helverin


-supreme comand detachment (AC)
-4x shield captain on bikes.
In this case i lose 1 cp point and trade it for more dakka with the second helverin, and get other cap with bike so i can make division of 2 caps to farm objectives.

Ive heard that the blood angels caps are nasty, kind of similar to the shield captains and the extra CP can be a good add for stratagems.. what you guys think? thx.

Just running the stuff you believe to be “nasty” often doesn’t work unless you have at least a basic understanding of what makes them nasty. It doesn’t appear that you have this based off your list, so you might want to do some research on what makes these units actually good. Which is CP, lots of it. In your first list you don’t have nearly enough CP for any one of the three detachments, in the second list you still probably don’t have enough CP for pregame stratagems alone. Also keep in mind the second list breaks the rule of three.
I would do some more searching, but for now I would reccomend this...

- castellan
- gallant
- gallant

- Shield captain on bike x3

- company commander x2
- infantry squad with mortar x3

THX all for answers actually you are right..

I need those CP for things like house raven stratagesm on castella.. at the end i decided to run something like this

-castellan
-gallant
-2x helverin

-3x shield caps on bike

-2 techpriest
-3x skin..rangers

i realy dont like guards minis and i dont have a second gallant. but i think this can work good.