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I don't play competitively. I play for fun, but I would like to win about as many as I lose. Right now, I'm considering running

1 x Imperial Knight Paladin
1 x Imperial Knight Crusader
1 x Imperial Knight Gallant

with

1 x Command Leman Russ Punisher
1 x Command Leman Russ Executioner
4 x Infantry Squad with Mortar
1 x Infantry Squad

So, would you recommend IKs by themselves or with an additional detachment (not only for the command points, but for what the allies can bring to the table)? If so, what do you think are the best allies to bring along? If not, what other IKs would you recommend?

Thanks

SG

Can't go wrong with the Loyal 32, although a couple of Mortars thrown in there helps as well.

That list will work fine. Knights are inherently strong vs almost everything - throwing in russ commanders and infantry only makes them stronger.

 Xenomancers wrote:
That list will work fine. Knights are inherently strong vs almost everything - throwing in russ commanders and infantry only makes them stronger.

they don't do well at scoring, or against pure hordes but they are fairly rare these days and can easily be covered off by IG for cheap and you knid of need a battalion for the CP anyway.

OP: "I don't play competitively, I play for fun."

Also OP: "Critique my Knights + Guard list."


I mean...

 Marmatag wrote:
OP: "I don't play competitively, I play for fun."

Also OP: "Critique my Knights + Guard list."


I mean...

Let's be fair now. There's no Castellan. There are Russes. It's not just a netlist.

To the OP: This list looks fun to play with. It's not completely optimised but it'll do well in casual competitive games.

Make one Commander into Pask though. Go onnnnn.

 Marmatag wrote:
OP: "I don't play competitively, I play for fun."

Also OP: "Critique my Knights + Guard list."


I mean...

I actually like IKs. Two reasons. 1) Fewer models. 2) I wanted a more fluffy list this time. So, I'm using House Hawkshroud which will fight for anyone who has earned their loyalty or respect. I have other armies that I could use, but my IG list is almost fully painted (just need to add camo to the tanks, paint the guns, and base the infantry. That's really about it. Been working on my knights a good bit lately. But, they are almost fully painted as well.

Why do fewer models matter to me? Well, my closest local game stores are about 35 minutes to an hour (depending on traffic) from where I live. But, I work fairly close to my local game stores (one being a GW). So, I want something that I can carry around fairly easily (even through they are large models) and possibly be able to get a game in on a night here or there if I have the time. While I really want to play Nighthaunt (many models I know), my main AoS army is also made up of very few models... Beastclaw Raiders. So, model count makes a difference.

SG

Ice_can wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:
That list will work fine. Knights are inherently strong vs almost everything - throwing in russ commanders and infantry only makes them stronger.

they don't do well at scoring, or against pure hordes but they are fairly rare these days and can easily be covered off by IG for cheap and you knid of need a battalion for the CP anyway.

I don't have any trouble scoring with my knights because I roll people over.

Like seriously - if you are playing IK's. Ignore objectives and obliterate your opponent - this is how the game works with basically every army - but with IK it's basically the only way you can play. I ignore objectives almost every game. Your opponent basically has to respond in kind to your forward aggression or they get rolled even easier.

 Stux wrote:

 Marmatag wrote:
OP: "I don't play competitively, I play for fun."

Also OP: "Critique my Knights + Guard list."


I mean...

Let's be fair now. There's no Castellan. There are Russes. It's not just a netlist.

To the OP: This list looks fun to play with. It's not completely optimised but it'll do well in casual competitive games.

Make one Commander into Pask though. Go onnnnn.

It's a netlist with commander tanks instead of company commanders. People run double crusader gallant + guard battalion very effectively.

 Marmatag wrote:
It's a netlist with commander tanks instead of company commanders. People run double crusader gallant + guard battalion very effectively.

I didn't netlist it. Keep in mind that I'm not competitive, so I don't follow the competitive scene at all. I just like IKs and happen to have more Guard and Leman Russ tanks painted and ready to go. I could substitute Dark Angels (maybe), but with the point cost, I'm not sure how well they'd work.

SG

While not intentional the combo you picked is a fairly strong list that exploits a few things that 8th rewards, namely a few big stompy models and a bunch of chaff to give you the CP to make those stompy models better. By no means is what you took a WAAC list but it is strong.

HoundsofDemos wrote:
While not intentional the combo you picked is a fairly strong list that exploits a few things that 8th rewards, namely a few big stompy models and a bunch of chaff to give you the CP to make those stompy models better. By no means is what you took a WAAC list but it is strong.

If I wanted more CP, I could pull the tanks and make two Guard battalions. That'd give me 13CP versus 8CP. BTW, this is all for a 2000 point list.

SG

What kind of feedback are you looking for here? This isn't the tactics forum.

 Marmatag wrote:
What kind of feedback are you looking for here? This isn't the tactics forum.

Not really looking for tactics... more opinions. Again, I'm not competitive.

SG

 ServiceGames wrote:

 Marmatag wrote:
What kind of feedback are you looking for here? This isn't the tactics forum.

Not really looking for tactics... more opinions. Again, I'm not competitive.

SG

It's a very strong list.

Screen your Knights with your Infantry. Then kill everything with the Knights and Russes while using your infantry to grab objectives if possible.

You'll do well. But bare in mind that Knights + Guard infantry has a perception of being cheese, due to it being one of the 3 top builds in tournaments of late. So you might get some groans depending on what the people you play against are like.

 Stux wrote:

 ServiceGames wrote:

 Marmatag wrote:
What kind of feedback are you looking for here? This isn't the tactics forum.

Not really looking for tactics... more opinions. Again, I'm not competitive.

SG

It's a very strong list.

Screen your Knights with your Infantry. Then kill everything with the Knights and Russes while using your infantry to grab objectives if possible.

You'll do well. But bare in mind that Knights + Guard infantry has a perception of being cheese, due to it being one of the 3 top builds in tournaments of late. So you might get some groans depending on what the people you play against are like.

I love to play knights - probably my favorite army to play. No one want to play against that though. Literally no one.

They aren't fun play against because they aren't very interactive. It's not as bad as 7th were 60 to 70 percent of my army couldn't do anything to a knight and matches against them boil down to, you blown chunks of my army apart and I hope to get a melta gun close enough to pop it in the back or I ignore it the whole game and try to win on points.

 ServiceGames wrote:

HoundsofDemos wrote:
While not intentional the combo you picked is a fairly strong list that exploits a few things that 8th rewards, namely a few big stompy models and a bunch of chaff to give you the CP to make those stompy models better. By no means is what you took a WAAC list but it is strong.

If I wanted more CP, I could pull the tanks and make two Guard battalions. That'd give me 13CP versus 8CP. BTW, this is all for a 2000 point list.

SG

Wouldn't you get +6 for the Knight Detachment? +5 for the Battalion, and +3 for being Battleforged for a total of 14.

 Xenomancers wrote:

 Stux wrote:

 ServiceGames wrote:

 Marmatag wrote:
What kind of feedback are you looking for here? This isn't the tactics forum.

Not really looking for tactics... more opinions. Again, I'm not competitive.

SG

It's a very strong list.

Screen your Knights with your Infantry. Then kill everything with the Knights and Russes while using your infantry to grab objectives if possible.

You'll do well. But bare in mind that Knights + Guard infantry has a perception of being cheese, due to it being one of the 3 top builds in tournaments of late. So you might get some groans depending on what the people you play against are like.

I love to play knights - probably my favorite army to play. No one want to play against that though. Literally no one.

I don't mind facing knights. But, I pretty much only play tournaments so it's expected. I run a feth ton of anti-knight stuff.

I just find this thread to be kind of silly:

"I'm not a competitive player"
"Here is my 3 knights + Guard list"
"What do you think of my list?"

So a non-competitive player builds a relatively small variation of a netlist and comes to the forums asking for list advice.

 Marmatag wrote:

 Xenomancers wrote:

 Stux wrote:

 ServiceGames wrote:

 Marmatag wrote:
What kind of feedback are you looking for here? This isn't the tactics forum.

Not really looking for tactics... more opinions. Again, I'm not competitive.

SG

It's a very strong list.

Screen your Knights with your Infantry. Then kill everything with the Knights and Russes while using your infantry to grab objectives if possible.

You'll do well. But bare in mind that Knights + Guard infantry has a perception of being cheese, due to it being one of the 3 top builds in tournaments of late. So you might get some groans depending on what the people you play against are like.

I love to play knights - probably my favorite army to play. No one want to play against that though. Literally no one.

I don't mind facing knights. But, I pretty much only play tournaments so it's expected. I run a feth ton of anti-knight stuff.

I just find this thread to be kind of silly:

"I'm not a competitive player"
"Here is my 3 knights + Guard list"
"What do you think of my list?"

So a non-competitive player builds a relatively small variation of a netlist and comes to the forums asking for list advice.

Yeah totally agree. Knights plus command tanks lol. He really doesn't know though - he is a casual player. I can tell you from other threads I've seen. Which is why I wanted to comment to stress to the OP. There is almost nothing you can do to make this combination casual. Except maybe bringing only paladins and errants with no carapace weapons.

I have been running a pure IK list

Crusader
Warden
Gallant
4 x Warglaives

I’ve been doing well with it but my opponents don’t seem to be having fun playing it.

Crazy Jay wrote:
I have been running a pure IK list

Crusader
Warden
Gallant
4 x Warglaives

I’ve been doing well with it but my opponents don’t seem to be having fun playing it.

It's because pure Knights is an extreme skew list and the codex was by far the most powerful codex pre-Fall FAQ, and is still top tier. You basically need a tournament list to even compete against that.