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Has anyone ever experienced any paranormal activity? I am using that term loosely here so if you think anything falls under it, please share. I just watched the first episode of Haunting of Hill House and it immediately reminded me of some experiences I was exposed to in college. I say exposed to it, because of the strange things that were happening around me, I didn't pick up on any of it, but the girls around me were, and were all freaked out.

So to set this story I have to describe in detail where it took place: a three story apartment/condo in an apartment community on the edge of our university campus, which was used as a Sorority Chapter house. My girlfriend at the time, we'll call Sara, I met while she lived in a different complex, and upon running for President for her sorority (btw I was not a frat guy and think frats for losers) and winning, she was now able to move into this Chapter House for free and bring in whoever she wanted from the sorority. She chose her best friends who I am going to call Ann, Carrie, and Vera. Before Sara and the gang moved in, we never had any talk or discussions about ghosts or anything, so when things started happening it really came out of the blue.

So this apartment was three stories, and the ground floor held the kitchen, dining area, and family room in one big open room with a really high ceiling. At the back wall from the front door was a stair case that went to the second floor landing, which held two bedrooms with their own bathrooms. My girlfriend Sara and Ann took one of these rooms each, while Vera and Carrie shared this huge room that might as well been a master on the third floor. The creepiest part of this place to me was the stairs. Coming from the third floor to the second, the stairs wrapped around so that if you were on the thrid floor, the stairs would go 1/3 the way down to the south, turn east and go down another third, and then north for the last third to the second. And even though these stairs were wrapped around with a wall, there was no light over the stairs, just on the landing. The stairs for the second to the ground floor were different. You would go south 1/4 of the way, turn east and it was straight 3/4 down to the ground floor in one long stretch. No light. And worse, the stairs and the ground floor were this marble-like stone, which was really hard. The moment I first saw this place, I blurted out that someone was going to wasted drunk or on drugs, trip on the stairs, and crack their head open on the base of the stairs. Both stairways were always dark and kind of creepy.

Now, Sarah, Anne, Carrie, and Vera were hard partiers. In addition to everyone doing plenty of the drug Ecstasy at the time, both Carrie and Vera were massive potheads. We partied pretty hard in those days. The debatchery that went on there is pretty legendary.

So I can't remember exactly the order of events that started happening as this was some time ago, but I want to point out right away that I have never seen a ghost nor experienced any paranormal activity myself. And believe me I wish I could. I would love nothing more than to be able to cross that off my list, along with a UFO, and so on. Some peeps seem to be receptive to this stuff, other are not. I am apparently in the camp that is not. I am open to believing something is happening just as I am open to UFOs, even though I have seen neither.

So some of the first things the girls started talking about was someone leaving a pan on the stove with nothing on it, yet the burners on full. Or someone running the dryer on the first floor and coming down to find their clothes already taken out. Doors were found closed when left open, or open when left closed. Now, I am sure many of you reading this are thinking about how I described these girls and the drugs they did would be the key ingredient here, meaning that maybe Vera got so baked she left the stove on, or forgot to put her clothes away after taking them out. I initially came to the same conclusion early on myself. But things started progressing beyond that. Everyone but Carrie (who would prob just shrug her shoulders at the site of a ghost anyway) reported presence when they were alone, and everyone felt uneasy around the long stairs going to the second floor.

Most of the time my girlfriend stayed at my place, so she initially didn't report anything until due to work and classes it was easier for her to stay at her place for awhile. She was the kind of girl that took awhile to talk about things that bothered her, so by the time she started bringing up weird things she was feeling to me, they had been going on for awhile. Now, I start hearing these things and I get all excited as I want to experience something, and coincidently start spending more time there.

Now, all this had no effect on our parting. Even though it was a 'Chapter House', they didn't get visitors often, so on the weekends we partied there pretty hard. We never had any issues during those times, it was always when one or two of them were alone. It got to a point where everyone was locking their bedroom door at night, especially when they were there alone. And the place that made everyone's hair stand up were both flights of stairs. I used to throw a glow stick or two in both stairways when we partied just to try to avoid a disaster. They bothered me that much.

One night I spent the night there, and the next morning my girlfriend told me she was terrified last night because she could sense someone coming up the stairs and actually try the door nob to her room which she had locked. She was so scared she didn't even wake me, to which I responded like wtf. I would have jumped right up and opened the door. I was also thinking one of the girls could have very well forgotten to lock the front door and it could have been an intruder. So I was actually pissed off about that, but she was really spooked out.

A few weeks later, and this one is going to sound silly, but during the day Sara and Anne started down the stairs from the second floor and about halfway down they both started to feel something to make them reach out and grab each other's hand, which both immediately stated they felt something rise up from behind them just behind their heads. Without saying a word to each other they ran as fast as they could out of the apartment.

At this point Sara starts asking other sorority sisters about the apartment and a someone reported that a girl who previous lived in the apartment came up the stairs to the second floor to the room Anne had now, and found a ghost of a young girl sitting on her bed. This girl moved right out of the apartment and never went back.

At this point I am salivating to see something but never did. Never felt a presence or anything. And I laughed that if it was a young girl who was haunting the place, then we were doing some really inappropriate things in the apartment between all the drugs and nudity. The closest I got to be a part of anything was one morning Sara and I were getting ready for class and I was in the shower and Sara asked if I knew where her keys were, and I shouted back no. A moment later this blood curling scream sends me running out of the shower to find my girlfriend in ball on the floor and crying. I was asked what happened and she goes on to insist that she had been looking for her keys, and she had this key holder next to her door where she would always hang her keys, and that she looked at it, didn't see her keys there, turned away, looked back at it and her keys appeared there hanging on the hook.

Now of course like you I just concluded she wasn't paying attention and that the keys were there the whole time, but she sobbed and said they weren't and there was something wrong with that apartment. All the weird stuff that had been going on finally broke her at that moment I guess. That was the only time I was nearby so to speak when 'something' happened. I didn't pay attention to the key holder so I have no idea if the keys were there or not.

So now it becomes widely known that the sorority 'house' is haunted, and other previous tenants reported some things but nothing visual like that one girl, and not extreme as what Anne and Sara were.

Then one night a group of girls with this Asian guy show up at her bedroom door at like 1am while we were sleeping and one of the girls says the guy is her brother, who is a psychic, and they were talking about the house and wanted to come by and see if he could sense anything. I was like, yeah right, and went right back to snoozing. Well, it turned out that this guy felt this presence was a little girl who had died and had taken an interest in the girls living in this apartment, and the things like the pan on the stove, or the dryer and so on, was this girl learning from the girls living in the apartment. Or in some cases trying to help, like with the keys. When I heard this I was of course skeptical, but also slapped my forehead about all the things this poor little soul had to have seen that went on there lol.

At any rate, for whatever reason, the girls bought into this guy's theory and the tension settled down after that. I don't remember anything really happening after that. The girls had lived there for a semester or two and when the year was over everyone moved out. No one had any issues like that again, and I have no idea if anything is still going on there. Soon after the official sorority house was finished and they stopped renting it.

Now, just like you, I could conclude they these girls doing drugs, being drunk, etc just put all these things into their heads, but I was doing the same things and never experienced even the slightest goose bump. And it could be that this girl just had zero interest in me, just the girls as this guy had stated. Plus we only partied on the weekends and not during the week when many of the strange things would happen. We never learned anything about who the girl might be or where she came from either. Things just went back to normal when they moved out. The only thing that brings me back to these memories as opposed to just writing the whole thing off was the terror I could see on their faces.

So that is what I got. Anyone got any thing they have experienced like this? I have heard of some other fantasical experiences, like guy I knew of reported that when he was a young teenager, that a ghost few into his room from an window and flew back out. That this seems silly to me, but this guy swore by it.

So if I was in the Hill House whatever and that chic from episode 1 was running out of the house, I would be turning all the lights on and chasing her around the house! I am just dying to see something.

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TL;DR some girls who did E and Weed thought their house was haunted.

Cool story bro.

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 Nostromodamus wrote:
TL;DR some girls who did E and Weed thought their house was haunted.

Cool story bro.


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I had two haunted places in college. One was the main student building (I was on the building lockup/security student team), and the second was a dining hall basement. First one I could feel a malevolent set of eyes on me every time I locked up and shut off the lights downstairs by the mailroom. Second place I went downstairs with a friend who was getting ingredients for pizzas, walked out of the elevator and promptly experienced vertigo so badly that I fell over (I had NEVER experienced vertigo from an elevator previously). My friend then told me of himself and two others experiencing things there; one a feeling of dread so badly that he bolted, and the guy who brought me down told me he saw a woman downstairs who shrieked like a banshee at him when he addressed her. He told me this after I fell over, because he waited to see if I felt something. Sure as hell did!

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I wonder if vertigo has a lot to do with the feelings people feel about hauntings. Meaning they get confused with one feeling for another.

There was a book and I can't remember what it was called, I had to read it in college for a Literature and the Occult class I took, where this house was 'haunted' but not by any ghost. Its just the house was poorly made and made noises or uneven floors would cause doors to close on their own, and drove everyone nuts thinking it was haunted. If someone knows what I am talking about let me know.

When I was a kid, I couldn't stand the infinite blackness of a open closet in my room. I would have to get up and close it. Didn't matter if there was something behind the closed door, so long as the door was closed lol
   
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I had no reason to believe the place was haunted at the beginning; I thought I was heading downstairs to help get pizza supplies. I walked into the situation blind. And four of us all had different reactions, but all had a reaction from entering.

Reality is a nice place to visit, but I'd hate to live there.

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Nothing too wild for me.. but when I was little, I remember I used to see an old woman with a scarf over her head out of the corner of my eye. Usually she would be just looking out window. When I would turn to look where she was standing, there would be nothing there.

There was another time in high school, the gang was hanging out at a girls house, drinking booze. I don't drink, so was mostly just watching tv and watching my friends get stupider. I remember sitting in a recliner and the whole time I just felt super depressed like I wanted to burst into tears for no reason. I got up and joined everyone else and suddenly felt better. Later on the girl who lived there was saying something about the family who lived there before had a kid that fell down the steps and died, right where I was sitting.

 
   
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No. Nobody on Earth ever(y) experienced a haunting. Some people experience toxic molds and infrasonic standing waves. Sometimes together.

You can 'terrify' your friends by generating a sound at 18.9Hz and make them see things with sounds between 16-19Hz.

Try it out. Slaanesh wills it.

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Well a friend of mine had one of those sleep paralyses demons while sleeping once.

iv had sleep paralyses skrillex making a bunch of noise in my ears while i was sleep paralyzed. (loud static noise)

i probably should of seen the doctor but eh it hasn't happened again.

thats like my only spook story.

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Mercifully, I only experienced sleep paralysis once, complete with shadow man.

   
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I get hypnopompic sleep hallucinations quite frequently. That's essentially where your brain half wakes up and your eyes are open and see the world around you; but hallucinations are overlaid on reality, with the rational/reasoning part of your brain yet to kick in. It's like the horrorcore version of Pokemon Go.

The most classic scenario is a monster of some variety (whatever your brain can conjure up) gradually approaching you whilst you can't move. Eventually it reaches a point of proximity to you that the fight or flight impulse kicks in; but as you can't get further away (you're lying in bed), you attack it. Then it fades into the background and vanishes as your higher level cognition kicks in from the movement and action.

An alternative one (and potentially more dangerous) is where there's less direct visual hallucination but you 'sense' things watching you whilst still semi-asleep. Usually the ceiling being covered in eyes or cameras or general malign forces with echolocation or something. That one usually results in your waking someone else up to tell them about it, or just trying to leave (sleepwalking style). Even though you're still asleep.

They're quite good fun in a way. When I was younger, they scared the everliving crap out of me. As someone else I once read put it though; when you've hallucinated Doris the brain eating Granny at the end of your bed for the sixth time that month, it stops scaring even your semi-conscious brain. You just roll over and go back to sleep half the time. Which would probably be highly problematic if a horror film monster ever did show up, but y'know.

Some of my more entertaining episodes have included:-

-Me ripping posters off the wall and shouting in rage because the Beholder style monster I saw vanished into them.

-Seeing Slenderman at the end of the end of the bed and jumping out to attack him; only to see him run through a (non-existent) door in the wall. My girlfriend woke up to me trying to Platform 9 3/4 the wall in chasing him.

-Waking my girlfriend up to tell her I'll keep her safe from the demon watching her. Then proceeding to stare at a wall for about twenty minutes.

-Punching the wall because the demonic goat thing I hallucinated vanished into it, and damaging my fist for the next two weeks.

-Sensing undead spirits spying on me and trying to flee the house in my underwear to get where they couldn't look through the giant mirror in my ceiling.


There are plenty of others, but those are some of my favourites. The strategy I instructed my girlfriend (or anyone else) to try and wake me up is to feed me some arithmetic problems. Asking me what 49x8-5 is usually enough to snap me out of it because it forces the more rational portion of my brain to activate. That part then suddenly goes 'hang on a minute....undead spirits in the ceiling...?' and the spell breaks.

Although recently I seem to have started developing the ability to do basic arithmetic calculations whilst semi-conscious (and thus not waking up when asked), which is...concerning. I'm considering laying out some algebra problems next to the bed or something for my girlfriend for future occurrences.

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Back when I was a teen (mid-eighties), I was on a canoe-camp trip down the Merrimac River in central Missouri. One morning I was the first awake, and walked across the gravel bar to the river to splash some water on my face, with the usual 'crunch-crunch-crunch' sound of someone walking on gravel.

I sat there for a couple minutes, then I heard someone else walking on the gravel behind me. I figured another member of the group was awake and headed this way, and when the sound of footsteps on gravel stopped fairly close behind me, I casually turned to look... and there was no one there. No cover for a good fifteen feet back to the river bank and the camp.

Looking back, if it was a haunting of any sort, it was most remarkable in that there was NO sense of fear, or threat, or disorientation... or even just a sense of being watched. Just
the sound of someone walking on gravel.

To this day I'm not sure if it was some sort of haunting, or if there's a perfectly reasonable explanation for the sound, or even if my mind/hearing was just messing with me that morning. No way to tell now, thirty-plus years later.

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 Necros wrote:
I remember sitting in a recliner and the whole time I just felt super depressed like I wanted to burst into tears for no reason. I got up and joined everyone else and suddenly felt better. Later on the girl who lived there was saying something about the family who lived there before had a kid that fell down the steps and died, right where I was sitting.


You know, I meant to mention this in my opening post, but I knew I was already under a lot of pressure to speed things up because Nostromodamus had a game of Adeptus Titanicus with his wife to get back to, so I left it out, but in college I learned there were two types of hauntings/ghosts, and I can't remember the names of either. One was like a residual type of event that was just a replay of something happened in time, maybe an event that was very emotional or for whatever reason left behind some energy that could be picked up by others later, and the other was some kind of posession where there was an actual enitity knocking books off book cases and so on. I have no doubt you geniunely felt the emotion from that boys death, maybe not even from the boy himself but whoever found him. Or who knows maybe he is still hanging around that spot.

The other one I find a little harder to accept, event though I wouldn't write off the possibility. Its just when you think about it, there are around 7 billion people on earth, with billions who came before us. If it were that easy for ghosts to come back and mess with us, I imagine there would be many of them and they would be knocking books off shelves all over the place. Or maybe they are and we can't see them. Who knows. Keep that in mind the next time you are jerking off to online porn. You might have a whole audience watching. Maybe even your late great grandmother shaking her head in disapproval. Just saying'.

<sips coffee>

Anyway, I am sure these hauntings could be from all sorts of things, the mind, energy left behind, or actual sprirts. I just wish I could come face to face with something to know for sure.

Wait there was a time in high school a buddy called me up to say he and my friend came across a dead body while off-roading at night in a in a jeep in a field near a forest. The 'body' was just within the trees. Anyway, they were freaked out and got me to come along to see for sure (why we didn't call the police at this point I have no idea). I really didn't believe them and when we got to the spot, which we had to drive over a fallen fence to get to, the 'body' was gone. Both friends swore but I figured it was just some hobo sleeping. The interesting part was a weird sensation I felt standing over the spot where they said the body was. It was this weird warm feeling while it was a cool night out. Can't really explain it. The best part was that when my friend tried to drive his jeep back over the fence, it got caught under the jeep and we couldn't move. Just reved and reved and spun our tires until the police arrived sometime later lol. Someone nearby saw us clowning around and called the cops. So we had to tell them what happened and convince them we didn't crash down the fence, and one of them already knew that section was down. But we had to hear an earful about how dumb it was looking for a dead body without telling the cops for 45 min before they let us go.

Good times.

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I've had my leg hair turn into black worms and crawl all over me, had my arm stretch and twist like you would ringing a towel, exited my body and watched myself on the couch, melted into another person like paint colours blending into a grayish brown mess when you mix too many of them,

had sounds turn into red ropes, trees crawl around and follow me, album covers come alive and move about, pixels create kaleidoscopic patterns, but I was also on acid, so...

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 KTG17 wrote:
Nostromodamus had a game of Adeptus Titanicus with his wife to get back to


I wish!

I’ve had sleep paralysis twice before, seeing as others mentioned it. Matches 99% of alien abduction stories out there. This is why I’m highly skeptical of paranormal stuff. Not that I don’t think it’s possible, but that it’s always explainable by something mundane.

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TL;DR something about getting abducted by aliens and anal probed

Cool story bro.
   
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 KTG17 wrote:
TL;DR something about getting abducted by aliens and anal probed

Cool story bro.


Touche

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No. I know such silly superstitions don't exist, and every phenomenon has a perfectly valid scientific explanation. If something supernatural really existed, it'd be pretty much have to be all-powerful or something like that to be able to keep hidden from scientists for so long. That, or it is just isn't part of the physical world that we can feel or measure in any way (or at least not a way we have figured out yet).

But as a kid I wasn't so certain and once me and a classmate tried to summon the ghost of his dead grandfather. It gave all the right answers to his questions and that left both of us pretty freaked out. Of course, now I know that such tricks for "communicating with ghosts"are deliberately designed to give vague answers that can always be interpreted as right, but I was too naive to think of that back then.

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When I was around 9-10 years old I was cleaning my room in the incredibly creepy farm house we lived in at the time. A night light with no bulb in it was part of the debris I had just swept up. I picked up the night light and carried it to the dresser almost on the other side of the room. I walked back to sweep up the debris, and as I leaned down to grab the dustpan, something smacked the wall just above me. I then watched the night light drop onto the floor in front of me. The next part involved running and screaming, and my Mom dismissing my experience.


About a month later, I had convinced Mom to let me switch rooms, and I was asleep with my bed facing the window that had one of those old school farm lights outside it. You know, the one with the ceramic lined steel dome where the light sits? Anywhich, I had woken up, and it wasn't a jarred wake up, just up. I was laying on my side at the time, and tried for a couple minutes to get back to sleep, Restless, I rolled onto my back. It was at THIS time that I saw the silhouette of a man about the size I am now, with curly hair and a hatchet coming straight at me. I sat up to scream, and the shadow went through me. It was like being charged with current, and I couldn't move.

Not 3 months after this, something happened to my extremely anti-superstitious/believing/whatever Dad, and we moved in with my Grandmother while we found a new house.

The landlord also bulldozed the house down shortly after we moved out.

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No. I know such silly superstitions don't exist, and every phenomenon has a perfectly valid scientific explanation. If something supernatural really existed, it'd be pretty much have to be all-powerful or something like that to be able to keep hidden from scientists for so long. That, or it is just isn't part of the physical world that we can feel or measure in any way (or at least not a way we have figured out yet).


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Not personally, but my other half has at the pre-school she used to work at. Not just her either but the kids and other members of staff at the time experienced various phenomena. Probably the thing that freaked her the most was a visible apparition of someone in 1910 style dress. This is in Norway by the way.

I'm sceptical by nature, but I do dislike it when people dismiss things completely out of hand as untrue just because they think it's so. Completely disregards the scientific method and to be honest, makes them just as bad as those who believe in it outright without evidence one way or another.
   
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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

I'm sceptical by nature, but I do dislike it when people dismiss things completely out of hand as untrue just because they think it's so. Completely disregards the scientific method and to be honest, makes them just as bad as those who believe in it outright without evidence one way or another.


I agree. That’s why even though I haven’t seen anything myself I don’t blow off what others have felt or seen. Some of it could be explained yet other events not so much. The idea of ghosts has been around for a long time and is not a recent phenomenon. Even if the vast majority can be explained as BS there are some that cannot be. And I am sure state of mind, imagination, health all play a part too.

As for science, I lean on scientific explanations myself before accepting faith, but there is a lot science is unable to explain too since we just do not have all the answers.
   
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Yes, but probably no?

First was when I was a nipper. Top deck of a Bus in Edinburgh, just approaching The Dean Bridge.

Was sat on the left hand side, and being a kid, was looking out the window. And on that side are some small green spaces, separating the main road from the residential road. It's your usual, New Town Green Space. Bushes for borders, some benches, and trees, with a path for people to wander along.

Bus came to a stop (whether an actual stop to let people on, or because traffic I don't recall). I saw two old folk walking down the path I mentioned, and they passed out of sight behind a tree. And I swear to this day they did not appear back in sight. Now, this was 30+ years ago, and as one can see here, those trees still aren't exactly might sequoia.

Even allowing for them having a breather (they were old folk), it's my memory of the event that they really should've appeared the other side of the tree whilst we were stationery.

And I swear they didn't. Even remember looking back once we pulled away. There was no exit from the green behind the tree. They just vanished.

Of course. This is a rusty memory from an impressionable child, so I'd say is barely an anecdote. But it's stayed with me.

The other time?

Road trip around Halloween to Pluckley, reputedly the most haunted village in England. Because, I mean, why the devil not?

Anyways, we did the tour, and didn't get even slightly freaked out. Eventually, we pile back in the car to visit one of the further out spots. And that's where things got odd.

If you're a driver, you'll know that you know your car. You can tell when something's just not right. Perhaps the acceleration is a bit sluggish, or your load could do with redistributing, as the steering is a bit heavy on one side.

Now I'd been driving that particular car for two or three years, so was well used to her quirks.

We stopped on a verge to get out to explore. Gemma started getting a bit freaked out (bless her), so we called it a night, and decided to head for home. And man, the car just was not right.

It felt like there was additional weight on the right hand front side. Yet it was just me there, with Lol in the passenger seat, and Gemma behind him. The steering felt really odd, and the acceleration wasn't up to snuff. And bearing in mind the engine was warm, that wasn't what I expected. I remember it being a surprisingly struggle to keep the Old Girl going in a straight line. The weighty feeling kept pulling us to the right. It really did feel as if there was something pressing down on the roof.

It was at that point I decided to forgo the scenic route home, feeling that if something was mechanically wrong, the Recovery Team would find us far more easily on a main road. The second we crossed out of the village - car back to normal. Like, the very instant.

Now, it could have been anything. But she'd never done anything like that before, nor since.

So, yeah. I've had some spooky encounters for sure, and I can't explain them. But that doesn't mean they're therefore truly inexplicable.




   
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But yeah, best to keep an 'open mind'.

There isn't a single 'paranormal' story out there that cannot be explained by environmental factors, mental illness, chicanery or just good old pareidolia.

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And that's exactly the sort of closed mindedness, blind belief and arrogance that embarrasses the human race in general. Well done in showing it off in one post.

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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
And that's exactly the sort of closed mindedness, blind belief and arrogance that embarrasses the human race in general. Well done in showing it off in one post.


The problem with the 'paranormal' (by which I'm referring to ghosts/weird feelings/poltergeists/etc) is that they fall prey to the same tests that organised religion do. And fail them just as rapidly.

To transfer the Flying Spaghetti monster example; how do we know that all hauntings aren't the result of some wacky hijinks by a hitherto undetected race of gnomes? Or an invisible species of bear? Or an interdimensional version of Lucius the Eternal with a warped sense of humour? With no evidence of any kind, all these things are just as likely, valid, and believable as the declaration that it must be ghosts/demons/that wicked child from next door that keeps throwing their ball on your lawn.

But would you really call someone who scoffed at the idea of invisible bears 'close-minded'?

Even the general concepts of ghosts and demons and nature spirits and so forth, all originate from the days when humans had to come up with explanations as to why things happened; but without any understanding of the world around them. The waves moved because Poseidon wanted them to, the thunder rolled because Zeus said it should, and mortuaries were haunted because spirits explain the creepy atmosphere and sudden awareness of mortality. Historical supernatural explanations for unknown phenomena can rarely be taken seriously today in most fields. Why is this one different?

Jumping to the paranormal for an explanation for anything is doing things backwards, taking a ton of hearsay about possible events and speculating wildly with no evidence of any kind. Even if you were the one to experience those events, or we take it for granted that those events happened; jumping from them to 'demons/ghosts did it' is such a vast illogical jump with a million attached assumptions that it remains patently ludicrous. You're seeing what you've decided you want to see. It's no different to seeing a banana fall from a tree and ascribing it to God, or your dinner getting burned and assuming the fire pixies did it.

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It would be just as easy to dismiss you as being so open-minded that your brain has fallen out, but that gets us nowhere.

Being open to new things/information is of course vital. Pretending that you have to be open-minded about the existence of something for which there is not even the slightest shred of evidence and for which there are countless perfectly satisfactory alternative explanations is utter madness.

Where do you draw the line? Do you put teeth under your pillow in case the Tooth Fairy is real? Why not? Are you closed-minded, or is the Tooth Fairy childish nonsense with no evidential support in real life?

Do you believe in vampires? Sasquatch? Nessy? Santa?

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 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
And that's exactly the sort of closed mindedness, blind belief and arrogance that embarrasses the human race in general. Well done in showing it off in one post.

No, he isn't wrong. As KGT mentions, ghost stories have been around for a very long time. Probably since the dawn of time. There is millions upon millions of anecdotes. But in all that time, and with all those stories, there has never been a single shred of evidence that ghosts are real. And it is not like people haven't been trying their hardest to proof the existence of ghosts. They have. It is just impossible to find any evidence whatsoever for all of those anecdotes, and so the scientific method urges us to dismiss the existence of ghosts and look to alternative, more mundane explanations instead. The Human mind is a funny thing. In my opinion, many of these ghost experiences are just tricks of the mind, where our mind misinterprets something mundane but unexpected as "ghost", and others can be explained by hallucinations, which contrary to popular belief occur even in perfectly sane and healthy people under normal circumstances.

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