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could this be our first look of a Man of Iron, the Artificial machines that terrified humanity during the Age of Technology

from the Warhammer Quest Black Fortress

100% yes.

 Togusa wrote:
100% yes.

Confirmed in a Facebook leak. It is a Man of Iron.

Stats looked decidedly underwhelming for what supposedly nearly wiped out humanity...With DAOT human technology...This had to be like lowest of the low of man of irons or there was lot more than just fighting ability going around

It is confirmed as a Man of Iron. It hides away and lets people believe that it is an "automatous tool of the Imperium", but it is self-aware and sentient.


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tneva82 wrote:
Stats looked decidedly underwhelming for what supposedly nearly wiped out humanity...With DAOT human technology...This had to be like lowest of the low of man of irons or there was lot more than just fighting ability going around

Or, maybe it is just game stats? After all, the Space Marine Legions pretty much conquered the galaxy during the Great Crusade, and yet their stats would be unable to get beyond the Solar system, let alone the galaxy.

tneva82 wrote:
Stats looked decidedly underwhelming for what supposedly nearly wiped out humanity...With DAOT human technology...This had to be like lowest of the low of man of irons or there was lot more than just fighting ability going around

Imagine him + a factory that pumps out thousands of him an hour. Then multiply that by thousands of worlds and give them the ability to all act in perfect unison.

 techsoldaten wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Stats looked decidedly underwhelming for what supposedly nearly wiped out humanity...With DAOT human technology...This had to be like lowest of the low of man of irons or there was lot more than just fighting ability going around

Imagine him + a factory that pumps out thousands of him an hour. Then multiply that by thousands of worlds and give them the ability to all act in perfect unison.

Also keep in mind that any self-aware synthetic is going to almost certainly be software based, not hardware based. As such, there will be multiple different platforms and models tailored to different tasks.

Think Cylons, or Geth.

... And their adversary was a species that is dependent on said factories for everything. Defense. Shelter. Food. Oxygen.

Bharring wrote:
... And their adversary was a species that is dependent on said factories for everything. Defense. Shelter. Food. Oxygen.

Said species also had power to destroy stars etc. Thing is human tech then was ridiculously high(to the level that humans then vs Imperium during height of great crusade bye bye Imperium. It would have been steam roll to the level of human vs ants)

tneva82 wrote:

Bharring wrote:
... And their adversary was a species that is dependent on said factories for everything. Defense. Shelter. Food. Oxygen.

Said species also had power to destroy stars etc. Thing is human tech then was ridiculously high(to the level that humans then vs Imperium during height of great crusade bye bye Imperium. It would have been steam roll)

When did humans ever have that in 40k?

tneva82 wrote:
Stats looked decidedly underwhelming for what supposedly nearly wiped out humanity...With DAOT human technology...This had to be like lowest of the low of man of irons or there was lot more than just fighting ability going around

When your army defending humanity against the galaxy is comprised of robots, and the robots revolt, what do you fight them with? Humanity could produce power armor and weapons to fight back, but the robots have a huge head start when they turn on mankind.

Imagine armies on the scale of the Imperial Guard + Navy, comprised of Men of Iron with Assault Cannons and Power Fists.

It's not clear whether Mankind had that ability or if Men of Iron had that ability.

When the intelligence and capability of a people is farmed out to machines, and then those machines turn on the people, the people don't have those capabilities anymore.


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Men of Iron were *not* the army. Men of Iron were the entire tech stack. Planning. Design. Production. Expansion. Defense, too. But they were *not* just the military.

tneva82 wrote:
Stats looked decidedly underwhelming for what supposedly nearly wiped out humanity...With DAOT human technology...This had to be like lowest of the low of man of irons or there was lot more than just fighting ability going around

It is way more powerful than a Space Marine, and think how powerful those are in the fluff. Full armies of these bots would definitely be scary.

blackstone fortress is just rich with possiable new armies isn't it?

Codex: Kroot, Codex: Men of Iron, Codex: Lost and the Dammed, Codex: Rogue Traders, Codex: Old Ones all confirmed.

Codex: Ratlings is the one we really need !

 Octopoid wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
100% yes.

Confirmed in a Facebook leak. It is a Man of Iron.

Post the link to this leak?

Want to see if it is actual true confirmation or people inferring and running wild with their imaginations.

 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Codex: Kroot, Codex: Men of Iron, Codex: Lost and the Dammed, Codex: Rogue Traders, Codex: Old Ones all confirmed.

I imagine with stuff like the traitor guard the iron man etc GW is putting em out there shot gun to see fan reception, if the fans like it they'll produce a line of minis. IIRC thats how we got codex custodes

Iracundus wrote:

 Octopoid wrote:

 Togusa wrote:
100% yes.

Confirmed in a Facebook leak. It is a Man of Iron.

Post the link to this leak?

Want to see if it is actual true confirmation or people inferring and running wild with their imaginations.

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1350/763027.page#10223007

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 NinthMusketeer wrote:
Codex: Kroot, Codex: Men of Iron, Codex: Lost and the Dammed, Codex: Rogue Traders, Codex: Old Ones all confirmed.

I imagine with stuff like the traitor guard the iron man etc GW is putting em out there shot gun to see fan reception, if the fans like it they'll produce a line of minis. IIRC thats how we got codex custodes

BrianDavion confirms codex releases.

tneva82 wrote:
Stats looked decidedly underwhelming for what supposedly nearly wiped out humanity...With DAOT human technology...This had to be like lowest of the low of man of irons or there was lot more than just fighting ability going around

It does look like some sort of frontline unit, or perhaps a mining unit or something like that. Designed for heavy work, but not exactly sophisticated (at least by DAoT standards). That said, Human statlines also aren't exactly stellar. It is the technology that makes them powerful, and I highly doubt any surviving Man of Iron would be using super-advanced DAoT-level tech. He'd be trying to keep a low profile as a simple non-self aware automaton, and displaying advanced DAoT tech would draw in the AdMech like a candle draws in moths.

tneva82 wrote:
Stats looked decidedly underwhelming for what supposedly nearly wiped out humanity...With DAOT human technology...This had to be like lowest of the low of man of irons or there was lot more than just fighting ability going around

I think his mind is that old, not necessarily the body. If the Men of Iron could jump from machine to machine that makes them SAF. A machine that could do that today would cause all kinds of problems. Now imagine the future were everything is probably compatible with their software. I took guise of automation to mean he jumped into an ad-mech robot.

Those stats are pretty dam good--imagine if every guardsman had them. The army would crush everything.

pm713 wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Bharring wrote:
... And their adversary was a species that is dependent on said factories for everything. Defense. Shelter. Food. Oxygen.

Said species also had power to destroy stars etc. Thing is human tech then was ridiculously high(to the level that humans then vs Imperium during height of great crusade bye bye Imperium. It would have been steam roll)

When did humans ever have that in 40k?

During 10k-25k ish. It changes with sources. The STC could design and build virtually everything and anything. That’s when the titans and warships we see today where invented (among other things). The great crusade of 30k was a reunification of mankind. This was before that when the galaxy was originally settled by man. It conflicts with some eldar fluff though so who really knows. After the men of iron wrecked mankind AI got outlawed and by the Emperors decree no machine would ever hold sway over man. That’s why every craft from rhino to warship is man driven in 40k, or limited to very simple AI. It’s also when mankind’s tech went backwards to hell.

pm713 wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

Bharring wrote:
... And their adversary was a species that is dependent on said factories for everything. Defense. Shelter. Food. Oxygen.

Said species also had power to destroy stars etc. Thing is human tech then was ridiculously high(to the level that humans then vs Imperium during height of great crusade bye bye Imperium. It would have been steam roll)

When did humans ever have that in 40k?

The audio short 'Perpetual' says both sides had weapons that could destroy stars and take chunks out of time/the warp/information.


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From the Lexicanum article on Perpetual:

" tail end of M23, during the rebellion of the Iron Men which led to the Malthusian Catastrophe."

"Andrioch, a human colony that was once magnificent but was destroyed by the time they arrived. Half of the city was missing, and it sat along a massive chasm that pierced all the way to the planet's core. Persson speculated that the wound could have been formed by powerful weapons used by Iron Men and the human alliances: sun snuffers, mechnavores that could hurl continents, or omniphage swarms that could devour biological matter. In particular, the city was probably destroyed by a mechanvore that was able to wound both the physical and spiritual universe"

GW really need to tone down the DAOT stuff.

pm713 wrote:
GW really need to tone down the DAOT stuff.

No. It provides an interesting contrast with the 'present' of 40k.

Considering that the rebellion of the men of iron was such a scene setter fornpresent 40k, it makes me wonder if it was in fact the opening salvo by chaos...

Carlovonsexron wrote:
Considering that the rebellion of the men of iron was such a scene setter fornpresent 40k, it makes me wonder if it was in fact the opening salvo by chaos...

Maybe, though I dislike the idea of everything being a result of a single or a few things.

Carlovonsexron wrote:
Considering that the rebellion of the men of iron was such a scene setter fornpresent 40k, it makes me wonder if it was in fact the opening salvo by chaos...

I wouldn't be surprised, given how often they seem to fall to Chaos (the STC in First and Only, and the titan in Dark Adeptus, for examples). It could also have been part of the Cabal's plot to wipe out humanity.