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I am curious how many hours of building/painting models people have had invalidated by GW's "No Model No Rules" policy. This is a thread for reminiscing about your beloved conversions, older models, and the good times you had with them before the current rules policy.

Keep in mind that the topic of this thread is not the existence of the index, and that yes, people are generally aware of the (current) existence of the index, and the index chart. Also might be useful to point out that already, two of the indexes have been moved out of print: both indexes which have had all the factions contained within released in Codexes. Almost like they were never planning on keeping them around, and their plan was always to quietly take them out to the woodshed after people stopped making as much noise about old models being invalidated. Weird.

My Personal RIP list is below, suprisingly all of it from just one single codex:

-Big Mek with Kustom Mega Blasta and Choppa (metal GW model circa ~5th ed). My very first 40k model, purchased 17 years ago, painted and repainted no less than four times, and taken in many, many more games than his level of competitiveness warranted. I'll take him as long as the index is allowed, but I am also considering proxying him as Kaptin Badrukk for the games I play in independent shops (that kind of heresy being simply unacceptable in a Games Workshop)

-Big Mek with Kustom Force Field (Metal GW era, same vintage). Less sentimental, but also more frequently used in games.

-Painboy on Warbike (Metal 5th ed painboy sculpt chopped at the waist and fitted to a warbiker, with the included Grot Orderly in a little sidecar). Sadly, without the index there's really no proxy that makes sense for this guy, as he's very obviously a painboy and not, say, a biker nob. I spent a good amount of time on the conversion so I'll probably have to keep running him as a nob biker.

-Warboss on Warbike (kitbash of a nob and an old gorkamorka era wartrakk/scorcha kit). Ironically, if this guy had another ork boy modeled on him and he was just a little bit larger he'd make the perfect proxy for a Deffkilla Wartrike, since he's pretty much got the pose and the armament and his vehicle is a trike. He'll be my Zhardsnark as long as that model is allowed to have rules - so, probably until he gets bumped to 400 points or so in the next edition of the annual Forgeworld Purge.

-6 Big Gunz, various (metal 3rd ed? sculpts). They'll just be mek gun proxies, again at any store that will allow them.

-Battlewagon with 4x Rokkit Launchas, Kannon and Deffkannon. The second he would have been semi-viable with the new Gunwagon rules too. RIP in pepperonis.

-10x Tankbustas with double rokkit pistols. GW released the rules for dual rokkit pistols with the index, then made them 1 per 5 models after I enthusiastically went to town making a full squad of ten cowboy hat wielding rokkit gunslingers a year ago. Because if you don't field your models exactly how they're presented in the monopose finecast kit, you are a BAD BAD PERSON and how dare you.

-Kommando with burna, 2x kommandos with big shootas (GW metal sculpt from 5th ed). At least the burna kommando just looks like a burna boy.

Zero, because Indexes are still legal, for now. AFAIK the only models that have been truly invalidated are Vect and I think one Tyranid Warrior loadout?

That being said the only models I have that wouldn't be kosher anymore might be a couple of Dreadnoughts with mismatched ranged arms.

Cannoness withjl jump pack. Got 2 of them converted up collecting dust ever since the option was taken away after the witch hunter codex.

Big mek on bike with KFF.

CC oriented command squad on bikes.

COUNTLESS looted vehicles.

the_scotsman wrote:

-Kommando with burna, 2x kommandos with big shootas (GW metal sculpt from 5th ed). At least the burna kommando just looks like a burna boy.

The metal (or were they finecast ?) kommandos aren't in sale anymore ? They were pretty good sculpt, not showing their age at all ! I have always wanted to buy a boxe, especially the burna kommando

 godardc wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

-Kommando with burna, 2x kommandos with big shootas (GW metal sculpt from 5th ed). At least the burna kommando just looks like a burna boy.

The metal (or were they finecast ?) kommandos aren't in sale anymore ? They were pretty good sculpt, not showing their age at all ! I have always wanted to buy a boxe, especially the burna kommando

You mean THESE? They were only gone for about a month and were rereleased with 32mm bases the same week Codex Orks dropped.

Probably soon to be Wolf Guard on Bikes and all other bike units outside of Swiftclaws when it comes to SW.

GW seems to be keen on the idea that space viking bike gangs should not be a thing.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Zero, because Indexes are still legal, for now. ....

^This. Although if the Indexes get "phased out", I still won't have any "models" that I can't use, just wargear options that will have to be replaced on this models:
I have:
- Skyrunner Autarchs with Banshee masks and Reaper Launchers
- A Dreadnought with 2 TwinAutocannon
- Librarian on Bike (that can a has been used as a Captian)

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 Galef wrote:

- A Dreadnought with 2 TwinAutocannon

In fairness, you can still legally use those, it's just you have to use them as Mortis Dreadnoughts from Forgeworld. Which means no Venerableness and HS instead of Elite. It's the lack of BS2+ that is the dealbreaker for me. DakkaDreads are so much more effective with BS2+.

Then again, Forgeworld are also technically indexes, so swings and roundabouts, eh?

The various Dark Eldar characters that got chopped from 6th Ed onwards, Baron Sathonyx particularly as I did some basic kitbashing to make one to add to my lovely Chapterhouse Jetseer Council

Also Iyanna, again just a head swap (Wych or Similar) on Warlock, but metal decapitating is a PITA

 Giantwalkingchair wrote:
Cannoness withjl jump pack. Got 2 of them converted up collecting dust ever since the option was taken away after the witch hunter codex.

Jump canoness, seraphim with eviscerator, battle sister with eviscerator, twin plasma pistol superior(WD dex special), sister with brazier of holy fire, sister with banner, kyrinov, ephrael, praxedes, helena, twin inferno pistol / power armour inquisitor, penitent henchman, various familiar henchmen, inquisitorial servitors, inquisitorial kasrkin, templar with holy orb... off the top of my head.


Also celestians with sarissas and sisters with stake crossbows - though never actually legal in the first place :p

 davou wrote:
Big mek on bike with KFF.

CC oriented command squad on bikes.

COUNTLESS looted vehicles.

All things considered, I was under the impression that a looted leman russ would be a battlewagon, a looted rhino would be a trukk, and a looted baneblade would be a battlefortress.

Considering that Battlewagons, Trukks, Battlefortresses, etc. are frequently made by scrapping wrecked other-people's armor, I don't see why there needs to be special rules for "this is specifically a looted leman russ", so much as "this is battlewagon, it's made from a Leman Russ."

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

 davou wrote:
Big mek on bike with KFF.

CC oriented command squad on bikes.

COUNTLESS looted vehicles.

All things considered, I was under the impression that a looted leman russ would be a battlewagon, a looted rhino would be a trukk, and a looted baneblade would be a battlefortress.

Considering that Battlewagons, Trukks, Battlefortresses, etc. are frequently made by scrapping wrecked other-people's armor, I don't see why there needs to be special rules for "this is specifically a looted leman russ", so much as "this is battlewagon, it's made from a Leman Russ."

I have looted devilfish, looted dreadnoughts, looted raiders etc etc. I have 6 looted 3rd ed rhinos tha tI play as trukks, but it would be fun to have a way to fir the rest into the game.

 BaconCatBug wrote:
Zero, because Indexes are still legal, for now. AFAIK the only models that have been truly invalidated are Vect and I think one Tyranid Warrior loadout?

That being said the only models I have that wouldn't be kosher anymore might be a couple of Dreadnoughts with mismatched ranged arms.

How long is that going to last? When have they ever allowed you to use whatever entries/rules/datasheets from previous codexes?

For me, I have 5 Big Mek with KFF, Warboss on warbike, warboss in mega armor, several lobbas and kannons. Its quite a bit actually.

 davou wrote:

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

 davou wrote:
Big mek on bike with KFF.

CC oriented command squad on bikes.

COUNTLESS looted vehicles.

All things considered, I was under the impression that a looted leman russ would be a battlewagon, a looted rhino would be a trukk, and a looted baneblade would be a battlefortress.

Considering that Battlewagons, Trukks, Battlefortresses, etc. are frequently made by scrapping wrecked other-people's armor, I don't see why there needs to be special rules for "this is specifically a looted leman russ", so much as "this is battlewagon, it's made from a Leman Russ."

I have looted devilfish, looted dreadnoughts, looted raiders etc etc. I have 6 looted 3rd ed rhinos tha tI play as trukks, but it would be fun to have a way to fir the rest into the game.

A looted Land Raider would be a Battlewagon, probably with a 'ard case and a Zzap gun.

A looted devilfish would be a trukk.

A looted dreadnought would be a deff dread.

My Corsairs army. No more lovely super close range fighting.

 Ghaz wrote:

 godardc wrote:

the_scotsman wrote:

-Kommando with burna, 2x kommandos with big shootas (GW metal sculpt from 5th ed). At least the burna kommando just looks like a burna boy.

The metal (or were they finecast ?) kommandos aren't in sale anymore ? They were pretty good sculpt, not showing their age at all ! I have always wanted to buy a boxe, especially the burna kommando

You mean THESE? They were only gone for about a month and were rereleased with 32mm bases the same week Codex Orks dropped.

No, this one and this one

Not seeing anything.

The change from SM command squads numbering 10 which included TWO characters to five-man plus one character was a pain the butt but also a very prudent change. I also have a RT Techmarine with a custom built conversion beamer and this option is to my knowledge not valid anymore. In addition, there is this BA Cpt. from 2nd in my collection who is clad in master-crafted power armour but only armed with a bolter. The former is still legal but you are gimping yourself by fielding him.

pm713 wrote:
My Corsairs army. No more lovely super close range fighting.

This one takes the cake I think, really miss my Corsairs as well.

 Ghaz wrote:
Not seeing anything.

He copied the actual image data instead of URLs. He meant these lads

Herold on palanquin is the only thing that didn't make it to 8th Edition. He's always Epidemius now...

Renegade infantry veterans and grenadiers.
About 3h pure work for the modells.

Edit: building them, i am a terrible and slow painter therefore didn't manage to finish them

Absdruael Vect, Kheradruakh the Decapitator, Archon on bike, Archon on skyboard, Archite on bike x2, Haemonculus on bike x3, Baron Sarthonyx, Duke Sliscus, Xenos Inquisitors in Power Armour x5, 9 of my 12 Jokaero (Rule of 3), 9 of my 12 Ministorum Priests (Rule of 3), Ordo Xenos Vehicles (various x 8).

I'm sure there are more as a Dark Eldar player since they launched and an Ordo Xenos player since the second I could be.... yeah I've lost alot of cool toys.

Wazdakka Gutsmek

Doom of Malantai. Andgmgmy custom one was so beautiful too.

My Deathwatch Dread's Multi-melta went from the default weapon in the 7th ed. Codex to not even being included in the Index.
Yay.

Pretty much ditto with stuff mentioned earlier: Baron Sathonyx, Looted Wagon (I quess this is a battle wagon now), Bik Mek with kustom force field (should convert some mega armor to him) and Kabalite Trueborns. Some of these are still legal due to the Index, but for how long.

I want Duke Sliscus back more than anything else 40k-related.

RIP the Duke.

I've got a few models that are now index-only.

Dark Angels
Interrogator-chaplain on Bike: I had a ton of fun making this kitbash, and even more fun painting it. I gave him a Mace of Redemption that I converted from a Deathwing Knight's mace. He used to be my go-to beatstick HQ back in 7th edition.

Librarian on Bike: This is one of my earlier paintjobs, and it shows. I still had fun making it.

Imperial Space Marine: This was an awesome model from GW, even if he never really had very good rules in 8th. I had loads of fun painting him.


Chaos Space Marines
Chaos Lord on Juggernaut of Khorne: I found this model very cheap on eBay, so I had to buy it for my Khorne Daemonkin army in 7th. Like the Interrogator-chaplain for my Dark Angels, this was my go-to HQ for my Daemonkin.

Black Legion Sorcerers on Bikes: I built and painted these models to run the Cyclopian Cabal formation in 7th edition. Not the best kitbashes ever, but I had fun with them.


That's all the ones that are Index-only, although I have a few models that used to be better that are just garbage in 8th (including a Chaos Lord with a Jump Pack, Lightning Claw and Powerfist) but they are available in the relevant Codex.