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I don't even know where to start...

SMH wrote:Little Mermaid cut from repertoire amid concerns over consent

A Princeton University a cappella choir started to hum.

A soloist then emerged from the all-male ensemble wearing white tuxedo jackets and black bow ties and burst into song: "There you see her, sitting there across the way. She don't got a lot to say, but there's something about her. And you don't know why, but you're dying to try - you want to kiss the girl."

The memorable melody of Kiss the Girl from The Little Mermaid - and the Princeton Tigertones's rendition of it - has created a backlash and prompted the a cappella group to remove the Disney tune from its musical repertoire.

And the best bit:

The Article wrote:Some have expressed concern that he would attempt to kiss her without her consent, while others have questioned whether a voiceless Ariel would have been able to give him permission.

And some people need a fething hobby.

This is why we can't have nice things...

Selectively quoting an article to make a point? Clearly not the standard anti-SJW outrage brigade tactics...

At issue, it seems, is not only a concern that the lyrics disregard the notion of informed consent but also that the performance plays into it - pulling a man and a woman from the audience, having them dance onstage and, at the end, telling the two to kiss.

"I have seen a queer student brought on stage have to uncomfortably push away her forced male companion," she wrote in the opinion piece. "I have heard of unwilling girls being subjected to their first kisses. I have watched mothers, who have come to see their child's performance, be pulled up to the stage only to have tension generated between them and the kid they came to support.

"There is no way to guarantee that the random people picked from the audience are members of a happy couple who both want to act out a very public expression of affection."

Can we lock this pointless thread now?

If only the Capella choir could have sung the song without awkwardly inviting two people to kiss on stage!

Oh wait, they absolutely could do that?!

This is a pretty clear distraction technique to get away from the actual problem with their performances that seem to be an insistence on audience participation. Perhaps they should question their own performance rather than a Disney song?

And of course someone who is mute can give consent. Sign language is a thing.

E - Here are some other famous lyrics from the Little Mermaid;

"I don't know when
I don't know how.
But I know something's started right now.
Watch and you'll see
Someday I'll be
Part of your world."

Are these the words of a fictional mermaid persuing the love of her Prince Charming or the sinister thoughts of a stalker lurking in the darkness ready to strike when the target is most vulnerable?!

Context is a thing.

Or you know “darling it’s better down where it’s wetter take it from me” are also lyrics from one of the songs, so yes context is important.
Also i’m completely against making people come on stage and force them to kiss so i’m ok with them not doing that performance anymore

I just hate Disney and would like it all cancelled please.

Now tempted to start a 'creepy lyrics' thread.

Go read up 'End of the Road' by Boyz II Men.

I'll just say, you can tell R Kelly had a hand in writing it....

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Now tempted to start a 'creepy lyrics' thread.

Go read up 'End of the Road' by Boyz II Men.

I'll just say, you can tell R Kelly had a hand in writing it....

Do it!

There’s plenty of innuendo in these so called kids songs.

But is that OT or Geek Media?

Reckon I'll post it in Geek Media?

I like a good parody of Disney music...


https://youtu.be/TXGNuJ6wIes

Maybe people prone to feeling victimized shouldn't sit in the front row if the show is known to involve the audience.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Maybe people prone to feeling victimized shouldn't sit in the front row if the show is known to involve the audience.

Thing is not everyone will know that and sometimes not everyone gets the seats they want.
Also note that most people are used to people who heckle or get forcibly brought up on stage at shows being plants in the audience. Even if its "random" they assume that the people brought up are pre chosen in some form. Pantomimes and such where there's actual free choice tend to do it by volunteering; ergo people are encouraged up rather than brought up and typically its not to kiss or decalre love for each other or such.


Honestly they could get round this by either dropping that part or being smarter about it - ergo pre-arranging who gets chosen to come up on stage. You can be sure quite a few would love to leap up on stage for a public display; heck they could even have charged a little extra for the two seats. They'd just need a simple policy of ensuring contact with both people (to avoid one person setting another up) prior to the event and such.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Maybe people prone to feeling victimized shouldn't sit in the front row if the show is known to involve the audience.

You're assuming that they know about it. That's an unreasonable level of research to expect from people who see "oh hey, there's a show tonight" and buy tickets.

All this being said, it's hardly ripping up the very foundations of western civilisation just to stop singing a Disney song at a university concert.

From what I can read in the story, the choir have handled it well. They've taken on board the criticism and decided to shelve that number until they can figure uot how to bring it back without making people uncomfortable.

It's how Farenheit 451 started tho.

With Disney musicals?

 Overread wrote:
With Disney musicals?

In case you seriously haven't read one of the three classic novels on the rise of fascism in the west: all art and entertainment is banned when the government folds to outrage culture and every single piece is protested by some offended minority or another.

This isn't a novel, it's a student end of term show. It isn't the government drumming up hate of all art, it's students who aren't comfortable with the enforced touching in one particular item.

Meanwhile during the real, historical rise of fascism in the west, "degenerate"art was banned because it was associated with undesireable groups such as liberals and certain religious and social minorities.

You're a fascist, you're a fascist.... everyone is a fascist!

I for one do not love Disney music and advocate for its removal from all public venues.

The merest hint of the tune from "It's a small world" will generally send me into immediate fight or flight mode.

(Seriously, that song is quite possibly the most cruel and effective torture method ever devised)

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Maybe people prone to feeling victimized shouldn't sit in the front row if the show is known to involve the audience.

This is a college acapella group. The show is not "known" to anything. Like, should we blame you the next time you support your friend's art club by attending a performance piece that you should have known you would be pelted with raw meat?

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Maybe people prone to feeling victimized shouldn't sit in the front row if the show is known to involve the audience.

This is a college acapella group. The show is not "known" to anything. Like, should we blame you the next time you support your friend's art club by attending a performance piece that you should have known you would be pelted with raw meat?

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Seriously, avoid college performance art shows.

 Techpriestsupport wrote:
I like a good parody of Disney music...


https://youtu.be/TXGNuJ6wIes

This one is also pretty good:

I'm sure everyone's heard about "Baby it's Cold Outside" being pulled from radio stations... now that song has some creepy lyrics.

Holy crap, I just looked that it; and I thought "I'll be watching you" was creepy; "Baby It's Cold Outside" is just MESSED UP!

Is this one of those cool threads where we pretend we're not discussing politics even though we totally are?

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Holy crap, I just looked that it; and I thought "I'll be watching you" was creepy; "Baby It's Cold Outside" is just MESSED UP!

"I'll Be Watching You" is cool because it's intentionally creepy. It's a clever juxtaposition of a sweet pop/love song with darker themes of obsession and possessiveness. "Baby it's Cold Outside" always struck me as odd because it's this close to being a song about festive date rape. Whether or not you agree with it being pulled is another matter but either way you have to admit that it's kind of dark in a weird and unintentional way.

 Techpriestsupport wrote:
I like a good parody of Disney music...

I prefer mine with metal!

If we are talking about terrible Christmas Classics.... "It's The Most Wonderful Time of the Year" is the worst. Talk about a song full of lies!

Isn't Sleeping Beauty all ready an allegory for Rape Culture?

 Easy E wrote:
If we are talking about terrible Christmas Classics.... "It's The Most Wonderful Time of the Year" is the worst. Talk about a song full of lies!

Isn't Sleeping Beauty all ready an allegory for Rape Culture?

Nah not necessarily, since it's fantasy it could be a metaphor for awakening sleeping passions or something like that. It's silly to take a fairy tale that literally, but obvious allusions to roofies are tough to miss.