Models you like/hate no matter how good/bad rhe rules are

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**Techpriestsupport**

I just assembled my first necron wraiths and I have to say I reaaly like the models. Yeah they're gonna be a bitch to paint but I like them a lot, and i'd like them as models no matter how good or bad the rules are.

I had some of the plastic destroyers and I really do not like the models. They look so clunky and primitive compared to things like the plastic wraiths and spiders. They seem to have a retro look with those huge open exhaust ports on the sides that's totally out of sync with a lot of the rest of the army.

**leopard**

the lord of skulls looks silly to me, I know chaos is meant to be a bit over the top but just no, they could be a point each and I'd still not want to use one, because I'd not want to build or paint it.

**Not Online!!!**

Multilators.
I like oblits, they fit them theme of cult of destruction.
Multilators don't, are questionably designed and look fugly.

**nfe**

Lord of Skulls is number 1. Just terrible. I think quite a lot of chaos stuff is dreadful. Defiler, Hellbrute, Mutilators etc.

On the other hand I love the Deathshroud and wish I could make them work.

**Techpriestsupport**

Ok since a lot of people seem to hate lords of skuills let's see why...

Hmmm, yeah. Just make a knight already. Is this a gw or forgeworld model? And does it have termagant heads on the sides?

**Nithaniel**

I really hate the Beasts of Nurgle models both old and new. So much so that I bought the AOS fellwater troggoths and am planning to do a little converting and have them standing on cork rocks to give a little more height.

**BlackLobster**

Anything with spikes - they just snap no matter how careful I am.

**Eldarsif**

I love the old Craftworld Vyper. One of the first vehicles I ever bought in 2nd edition and despite its age, horrible sculpting of the pilots(compared to newer models), and rules that have never really favored the unit, I still love that thing.

**Valkyrie**

I'm really on the fence about the classic boxy Dreadnoughts when you have much better ones like the Leviathan and the Telemon that actually look like they could walk.

**Brutus_Apex**

Lord of Skulls is awesome. It’s so wonderfully over the top.

I also love incubi, no matter how bad they get.

I’ve always hated the way genestealers look. Even though they are by far the best troop choice.

**Gir Spirit Bane**

I love > Soul Grinders. Seriously I f'ing love those models and they really exemplify a towering daemonicly infused monstrosity rampaging across the field spewing out death at all ranges.

In game its a confused creature which doesn't know the hell it's supposed to be doing. Honestly it needs to change its weapons to assault and it'll be fine at its new price point of 180!
Please buff my beloved chaos platypus!

Unit I hate with a burning passion - Castellan knight. It does everything too well for too cheap and it's just bull gak. (Im totally not bitter its better than my Forge World Daemons, or Forge world Tyranid Hirodules... infact it beats anything for the same PL/points model my Eldar, Daemons or Nids can bring to the table!)

**BaconCatBug**

The Castellan. It makes 80% of possible lists unusable because "it can't deal with a Rotate Ion Shields Castellan".

**the_scotsman**

I will always use Hellions no matter how bad they are. And they are great at finding new and creative ways to be just about the worst thing possible.

**Blackie**

I don't like the official models of talos, flash gitz, painboy, weirdboyz and the big mek with SAG. I've made my own conversions of all of them because I love their concepts and rules. Never been a fan of the SW ven dread with axe and shield, if it was absolutely terrible rule-wise I would never have bought it.

I love the incubi, succubus, ork bikes, TWC and burna boyz models regardless how bad they are in this edition.

**Galas**

Deatwing knights. Best Terminator models.

Grey knights paladin are still the best terminator kit tought. Cheap, increddible modularity and a ton of customization.

**Yarium**

LOVE: Primarchs. I'll love and collect them no matter what. Nipple horns and all!

HATE: Logan Grimnar on Stormrider. This model is just ridiculous. (https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/catalog/product/600x620/99120101115_LoganStormrider01.jpg)

**lare2**

All daemon prince models pretty much suck but unfortunately their rules are too good to ignore.

Ordinarily though, if a model is really bad (looking at you Epidemius) I find it virtually impossible to field.

**Hawky**

There are no units in the Guard that I hate how they look or are weak (they are all weak, so the standard is pretty low

) and I keep using them. The closest thing is usually FW stuff, that has mediocre/underwhelming rules, but I often field it because they have awesome models. Namely the Avenger Strike Fighter and the Macharius Heavy Tank. I usually convert things that I dislike how they look. Leman Russ Battle tank might be the prime example, followed by Ogryns.

**Commissar.Dan**

the chaos daemon prince mini is alright but no where near as good as the pweter one.

**NoiseMarine with Tinnitus**

Wolfen - seiously, breakdancing trogladytes. Fething stupid model design.

Murderfang - just no! Stop it with the wolf fetish.

Logan Claus - just wtf?

Khorne Berzerkers kit (all of it) - has aged appallingly. More likely to incapacitate the foe through fits of hilarity than inspire terror.

Rievers - cosplay Night Lords

Incesstors (or whatever those Primaris jump pack troops are) - that design must have gotten signed off at 2am after a heavy session in Bugman's

**The Newman**

I just hate the Terminator model. It's the pose, I can't get past how no normal human being would ever stand like that. The helmets are kind of dopey too, but I could overlook that if they were standing in the same stances as the Tartarus pattern Terminators. The old metal ones weren't much better.

They're a contentious choice but I love the Centurion models. I keep finding excuses to use them even though I know I'd be better off taking a couple of Dreadnaughts.

**Sterling191**

The Falcon chassis series grav tanks. I love em. All of em. Even when they're trash.

The sleek simplicity of the hull is just *chef's kiss*.

**BertBert**

Tau Devilfish. They just nailed that aesthetic back then. Being able to fit the Recon Drone into the top hatch now is just the cherry on top. It's not the best transport in the game, but I will always field it just for its looks.

**Trickstick**

I love the Mars Alpha Pattern Vanquisher, and will use it every game no matter how bad they want to make the Vanquisher cannon. It did get a new lease of life with the new relic battle cannon though, so I don't have to use the horrible rules the Vanquisher had. I think that a Vanquisher cannon, by the fluff, pretty much is a relic. They used to be able to choose what ammo to use, and the new relic sort of fits that idea with its profile.

I'll always take my Lady Commissar if I can. Having a single black-clad model in the infantry line looks great. The Comissar rules are not what they used to be but I guess they are not horrible. My conversion of Countess Marianna Chevaux from Mordheim is one of my favourites, although it does get the occasional "that's not a GW model".

Lastly, the Vulture Punisher is a great model that, at least in the past, has been OP. I just love having a single gunship supporting my ground forces. I blame the notorious book Flesh and Iron, which had a plot line about a lightning strike pilot supporting a river force.

Three models I will continue to use in every game, simply because they are my favourite models.

**Hawky**

Trickstick reminded me that I also have a model I take every (like 95%) time, and that is the Primaris Psyker, converted from Eldar Farseer and made human. She's a killing machine, often killing stuff worth 3-4times her own price.

And also my Tesla tank (Executioner Tank Commander) participates in almost every battle.

**Excommunicatus**

666pts and her only use is calibrating enemy Lascannon sights, turn 1.

**Kap'n Krump**

I've always adored deff dreads, but they've been consistently awful throughout the editions.

They're actually not too bad anymore - especially with either evil sunz or deffskulls kultur + tellyporta array.

**vipoid**

Blackie wrote:
I don't like the official models of talos, flash gitz, painboy, weirdboyz and the big mek with SAG. I've made my own conversions of all of them because I love their concepts and rules.

If you don't mind me asking, what is it about the talos model that you don't like?

Also, do you have any pictures of your Talos conversion? I love seeing DE conversions.

**Trickstick**

Kap'n Krump wrote:
I've always adored deff dreads, but they've been consistently awful throughout the editions.

They're actually not too bad anymore - especially with either evil sunz or deffskulls kultur + tellyporta array.

There was a period when IA8 came out when they were good. Dread mob list was scary. I remember facing dread mob with an armoured battle group and it was a field of vehicular carnage. Great times.

**rbstr**

Deff Koptas - These things are adorable.
I kinda love small fliers in general.

XV88 Broadsides with the HRR & Railrifle Pathfiners.
Railguns are boss and the Broadside is the best looking Tau suit except for, maybe, the Ghostkeel.