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I'm new to building and painting miniatures. I'm planning to pick up the Blackstone Fortress game set, if my pocketbook can handle it. I've watched all the tutorials I can find on YouTube, including the ones from the GW site, but I can't seem to find how to paint the figures as they are shown on the site. The video tutorials seem to use different colors than the example images. Taddeus the Purifiers robe color, for example, is whitish in the example pictures but beige in the video tutorials. Here are my questions, then:
1) Can anybody help me by telling me a complete list of colors I would need to paint them the same as the example images on the GW site?
2) Is there any way to get the paints and supplies for less than one arm, two legs, and a kidney? From what I can figure, if I pick up the paint colors suggested in the video, then I'm looking at around 60 colors of paint, costing around $300 just for the paint.
You really should just get them commissioned if you want them to look nice like the box art. There is no way you can do that at your stage of painting level, I’m taking you for a novice as you are asking for color combination and such. The problem of the set for painting purposes is that there are quite a few factions/sub factions involved. Each requires a set of different tones, some will work on multiples.
Big Mac wrote: You really should just get them commissioned if you want them to look nice like the box art. There is no way you can do that at your stage of painting level, I’m taking you for a novice as you are asking for color combination and such.
I am, indeed, a novice. However, I would not like to have them commissioned. I want to get into the painting, myself, as a hobby. I don't expect to be able to replicate the quality of their paint job. I just want the miniatures to have the same nice colors that the examples on the website have. By saying that I want them to look nice, I simply mean that I don't want their colors, as is the case with the video tutorial for Taddeous, to look like poop. The robe color looks amazing in the example pictures on the website, but looks terrible on the video tutorial.
Here, for contrast, is the video tutorial (you don't have to watch the tutorial, as the first scene shows the completed portion after following the steps in the video):
Thanks for the suggestion, though. I did consider having them commissioned. I just think that it will be too much fun to miss out on painting them myself.
You might want to buy them, put them aside and get some plainer models to practice on first.
Also the chances are, the colours are probably correct. To attain a good looking white cloak, it is probably based in beige, with layers being built up using thinned white mixed into the beige in increasing amounts. Its a more advanced technique that you will need to practice, among a few others if you want to achieve the effects shown on the box.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Edit. The video robe is indeed beige with a simple highlight. I've found the image I assume is on the box on Google, and that is definitely painted using advanced feathering/layering. The tutorials don't show the full process to reach that standard, they just show the basic to reach a neat tabletop standard.
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queen_annes_revenge wrote: You might want to buy them, put them aside and get some plainer models to practice on first.
Yeah, I was considering doing either just that or starting with the bad guys before progressing to the heroes.
queen_annes_revenge wrote: Also the chances are, the colours are probably correct. To attain a good looking white cloak, it is probably based in beige, with layers being built up using thinned white mixed into the beige in increasing amounts. Its a more advanced technique that you will need to practice, among a few others if you want to achieve the effects shown on the box.
I wondered about that, but I just couldn't tell if that was the case.
Would you happen to know what all colors I would need for the set, then, and how to get them at a reasonable price? I've added all the colors from the video tutorials to the iOS app and it comes out to 60+ colors at over $300 dollars. I don't even know if that's all the colors that I would need since it seems only to be the colors used for the tutorials which leave the majority of each miniature unpainted.
Forget the colours. Get yourself a flesh tone, a red, a black, a blue, a yellow, a white, and a couple of metallics. Learn to work with those. You can mix all the colours you need.
You can also use a different manufacturer such as Vallejo or Instar to save money. Start with a basic paint set and grab a few other colors as you go. If you want to paint them exactly as Duncan did, it's going to be pricy.
Start simple with a basic color set and go from there.
I would really recommend against buying every color Citadel makes. You could pick up a couple of sets from Vallejo and save a huge amount of money. Also, consider mixing colors for different shades. For example, if you have a nice beige you could use that as a base coat for Taddeus' white frock, and mix white into it for highlights. If you follow GW's color and painting scheme to a t you're going to have to buy a million colors in base, layer etc. and it's just not worth it if you have enough of a brain to mix and thin your own paints.
queen_annes_revenge wrote:Forget the colours. Get yourself a flesh tone, a red, a black, a blue, a yellow, a white, and a couple of metallics. Learn to work with those. You can mix all the colours you need.
Mixing colors is what I'm the most afraid of. I have a tiny bit of art experience, but it's mostly pencil and chalk. I'm fairly confident that I can get a handle on the painting, but I don't think that I would be good at mixing colors.
Todosi wrote:You can also use a different manufacturer such as Vallejo or Instar to save money. Start with a basic paint set and grab a few other colors as you go. If you want to paint them exactly as Duncan did, it's going to be pricy.
I was considering Vallejo; however, I'm going to need more colors to make them look like I want and I'm not confident in mixing colors. It's sounding like I'm just going to have to bite the bullet.
Luciferian wrote:I would really recommend against buying every color Citadel makes.
Oh, yeah! I'm totally not going to buy every color they make.
Luciferian wrote:You could pick up a couple of sets from Vallejo and save a huge amount of money. Also, consider mixing colors for different shades. ... it's just not worth it if you have enough of a brain to mix and thin your own paints.
Yeah, as I said to queen_annes_revenge in this reply, I was considering Vallejo; however, I'm not confident in mixing colors at all. I would be confident making colors lighter and darker by mixing white, grey, or black with them, but I wouldn't be confident mixing other colors. Your suggested method for Taddeus was exactly what I was thinking about doing.
You don't need to be good at art to figure out how to mix paint, get yourself a wet palette and put a few drops of paint beside each other and eyeball the colour until you're happy. I promise you there's nothing to worry about, if you mess it up you can just use another part of the palette!
you know what colours make when mixed though right? if not you can get colour wheels off google. technically you could paint anything using the 3 primary colours, plus black and white. when I paint leather jacket designs, these are all I use. all flesh tones, browns and different tones/shades are mixed myself.
also, I personally find mixed and blended paints look better when applied. look at any surface and its almost never a uniform colour all the way through. Plus, for highlighting and blending, mixing paints is essential to get a nice smooth transition. if you just put a paint over the top of another you will likely leave visible gradients.
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