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Anyone here like this one? Of all the movies that get sequels this one had to be the one that didn't.
I went in with looooow expectations after that massive pile of steaming celuloid excrement Stallone defecated onto movie screens not long enough ago and was pleasantly shocked by the movie that greeted me.
It had minor flaws here and there but all in all I really loved this one.
"I learned the hard way that if you take a stand on any issue, no matter how insignificant, people will line up around the block to kick your ass over it." Jesse "the mind" Ventura.
I'm in the liked Stallone camp as well. It's a nicely cheesy 90s movie and it totally works in that realm. But the 2012 version is a legit awesome action movie. It does kindda suck it didn't get a sequel but by now, it'll be like the Deadpool sequel at best. By that I mean watchable but production companies will get involved and muddy the process with
"Trust us, audiences like THIS and THESE and let's put SO AND SO in it because he's hot right now"
So I'm fine with the one and done. It's a really good one and done
Dredd absolutely nailed, well, Dredd. His tight control, his assured nature. Consider his fire discipline compared to those he’s taking on. Barely a shot wasted. Completely in control.
Judge Dredd however nailed Megacity 1’s visuals. It looked exactly as it should, even if it choked pretty much everywhere else.
Me, I’m very excited for the upcoming MC-1 tv show. Karl Urban is even open to returning. But one hopes more as cameo appearances. Judge Dredd is best when the city is the main player. Really let’s it show off its insanity.
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Movie podcast "Sequelisers" did a great show on both movies and the sequel that will most likely never be.
We're back for another mid-season discussion, not so much covering a good or bad sequel, so much as a non-existent one. This week we are taking a look at a sequel to 2012’s Dredd; what we liked about the film, what we would like to see in a sequel and how likely that will be.
That plugged, I love Dredd, it maintains a fine balance between the insanity of 2000AD's universe and keeping things toned down enough to not be over the top alienating for people new to the franchise. Plenty of cameos, references and whatnot are worked into the movie though for the die-hards to spot and point at.
The marketing of this film was abysmal and only drove low expectations, but it really is fantastic.
Urban's cold statement of fact when he almost whispers "I am the law", as opposed to Stallone's blustering of that line, is one of the most amazing scenes I've ever seen in a film. His portryal of a character almost entirely through scowling alone was awesome.
Lena Headey as Ma-Ma was, of course, perfect.
IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
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As an IP, “Judge Dredd” is classic comedy duo: you have a hardnosed straight man in Dredd himself who is constantly foiled by the slapstick absurdity of the Big Meg. The 2012 movie gets Dredd right but stumbles badly with Mega City One. The Stallone picture from 1995 gets Dredd catastrophically wrong but absolutely nails Mega City One.
Manchu wrote: As an IP, “Judge Dredd” is classic comedy duo: you have a hardnosed straight man in Dredd himself who is constantly foiled by the slapstick absurdity of the Big Meg. The 2012 movie gets Dredd right but stumbles badly with Mega City One. The Stallone picture from 1995 gets Dredd catastrophically wrong but absolutely nails Mega City One.
I think budget concerns is why MC looks a tad dull, no point splashing money for the brief opening prior to getting stuck in Peach Trees (which should have had a british celeb name, but global audience I guess)
still a great movie mind
"AND YET YOU ACT AS IF THERE IS SOME IDEAL ORDER IN THE WORLD, AS IF THERE IS SOME...SOME RIGHTNESS IN THE UNIVERSE BY WHICH IT MAY BE JUDGED."
I loved the new Dredd, but I think the Stallone Dredd might be more rewatchable. The old one was campy and a bit silly, but so were the Dredd comics and novels I've read. Urban Dredd may be the better Dredd, and his film may be better written and directed, but it's just a bit too serious for its source material and difficult to find joy in past the surface level story and acting.
I agree with Bob. Overall, Stallone's Dredd was a far better tonal match to the comics, where Urban's Dredd was too self-serious.
If only there were a Paul Verhooven version, like Robocop & Starship Troopers. Someone who really got the underlying parody and wouldn't be afraid to go over the top with Reagan/Thatcher. With all the news about police brutality and the whole Trump/May nonsense, you'd think someone would tackle the material properly.
Only thing I really liked in the Stallone film was the ABC bot, though I understand the consideration of how city was presented in it. The one with Karl Urban was fantastic and I even ended up buying the 3D Blu-ray of it.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Picked dread up on blu ray release as was actually surprised how good it was. It sold pretty well on disc compared to lower cinema turnover apparently. Was also the only 3D blu ray i have/had and the mini gun scene was cool to watch in 3D.
Hopefully the rebellion series when it comes out will be good.
The dredd comic has matured in some cases since stallonecs movie.
"I learned the hard way that if you take a stand on any issue, no matter how insignificant, people will line up around the block to kick your ass over it." Jesse "the mind" Ventura.
Dredd was superb. Excellent film, and beautifully true to the comics. Also, Karl Urban is always enjoyable - props to him for being willing to keep the helmet on all movie.
That was one of his demands, along with not kissing Anderson or that stuff. He's a big fan of the source material so he knows what you should or shouldn't do.
Kilkrazy wrote: I rather enjoyed the Stallone film, too. I haven't seen the newere one but I've heard it's very good.
You are correct. It was imo the best movie of the year but I missed it in the cinema because it was advertised as a 3D special effect mumbo jumbo. The soundtrack is epic too. Karl Urban nailed the Dredd character and his female companion (Anderson) did also fine job. The slow mo effects were pretty neat as well and the depictions of Anderson´s psychic powers, too.
The Stallone movie paled in comparison. Yes, it was campy because mostly of Schneider and Stallone didn´t bother with the background material too much because he insisted on showing his face. Well, Dredd is known for never showing his face as he is depicted in his comics more than a symbol of justice and a law abiding machine than a normal human being. At least it included the psycho Angel family and an ABC warbot.
Can we also admit that Dredd was beautiful in its simplicity? In a world of overly complex movies with "try too hard" engrained into their cores...and dripping with political messages (though, let's be honest Dredd is a tongue-in-cheek quasi political commentary on lots of things), Dredd's simple plot was one of its best features.
Locked in a building, and people want to kill you.
Sometimes that's all we need. This movie could have been done a million awful ways, and we just lucked out and got a proper version. How easy would it have been to install a half dozen Hollywood tropes into the core of the story? Oh..."Mama" is just a result of police brutality from 30 years ago when her father was wrongfully executed by a Judge, so...blah blah blah. This video is pretty spot on as well:
Elbows wrote: Can we also admit that Dredd was beautiful in its simplicity? In a world of overly complex movies with "try too hard" engrained into their cores...and dripping with political messages (though, let's be honest Dredd is a tongue-in-cheek quasi political commentary on lots of things), Dredd's simple plot was one of its best features.
Locked in a building, and people want to kill you.
Sometimes that's all we need. This movie could have been done a million awful ways, and we just lucked out and got a proper version. How easy would it have been to install a half dozen Hollywood tropes into the core of the story? Oh..."Mama" is just a result of police brutality from 30 years ago when her father was wrongfully executed by a Judge, so...blah blah blah. This video is pretty spot on as well:
thank you for linking to this video. I'd never seen it before.
"I learned the hard way that if you take a stand on any issue, no matter how insignificant, people will line up around the block to kick your ass over it." Jesse "the mind" Ventura.
Manchu wrote: It doesn’t really matter that The Raid released ahead of Dredd, except it has led people to erroenously presume Dredd ripped off The Raid.
Whether or not Dredd ripped off The Raid, The Raid is easily the superior film.
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