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Made in kr
Bloodthirsty Bloodletter




Odessa, TX, USA

Heya; quick question. Using warp surge on a tzeentch daemon unit will still make it a 3++, yes? As warp surge occurs before Emphereal Form, bumping it to a 4++ from their native 5++. Since EF is triggered during your roll you then add that +1, making them a 3++. And it doesn’t have a cap unlike warp surge, which is a 4++.

I interpreting this right?

Thanks for the answers!
   
Made in au
Frenzied Berserker Terminator






Kind of.

Ephemeral Form adds +1 to your save roll, but doesn't affect the characteristic like Warp Surge does.

So in shorthand you could say it's a 3++ (much like you might say a Marine in cover has a 2+ save). This isn't technically correct, though.
   
Made in gb
Horrific Hive Tyrant





It's effectively a 3++ yes.

As you've noted, it's technically a 4++ with +1 to the roll. In most situations this is functionally the same as a 3++, but it is an important distinction to make with regards to save caps and such.
   
Made in de
Nihilistic Necron Lord






Germany

It doesn't work on pink horrors, they already have 4++, and warp surge was changed to a maximum of 4+.
   
Made in gb
Horrific Hive Tyrant





 p5freak wrote:
It doesn't work on pink horrors, they already have 4++, and warp surge was changed to a maximum of 4+.


That's correct. This is because instead of having a 5++ with a +1 to the roll like other Tzeentch Daemons they have normal 4++.
   
 
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