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Allegedly:

Slaanesh
Slaves to Darkness
Skaven something-something

Two others.

As my primary faction and main reason for playing whfb was the chaos warriors and knights, a slaves to darkness book would be huge for my interest so long as it wasn't a wet noodle of a book that couldn't get good games in against the other minmax lists. Slaanesh - I'm interested to see how they develop the storyline.

I'm hoping the two others are related to slaanesh. Being the rebirthed high and dark elves. I want to see that as that will really broaden interest, and additionally the dark elves were a side army I have had for a long time and would love to see them reimagined in malekith's vision.

Slaanesh is pretty much a given at this point, as are the Dark Oath/Slaves to Darkness (the other three Malign Portents heralds have a battletome now). I don't expect to get both elf books in the same year, though. I feel like they might cannibalize each others' sales. Since we got the Daughters of Khaine last year, I would expect to get the new High Elves this year.

Fairly certain FEC are coming pretty soon.

But keep in mind we haven't had any obvious rumour engine pics for AoS beyond Slaanesh.

 EnTyme wrote:
Slaanesh is pretty much a given at this point, as are the Dark Oath/Slaves to Darkness (the other three Malign Portents heralds have a battletome now). I don't expect to get both elf books in the same year, though. I feel like they might cannibalize each others' sales. Since we got the Daughters of Khaine last year, I would expect to get the new High Elves this year.

But we got DoK and Idoneth in the same year, just two months apart....

 Togusa wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:
Slaanesh is pretty much a given at this point, as are the Dark Oath/Slaves to Darkness (the other three Malign Portents heralds have a battletome now). I don't expect to get both elf books in the same year, though. I feel like they might cannibalize each others' sales. Since we got the Daughters of Khaine last year, I would expect to get the new High Elves this year.

But we got DoK and Idoneth in the same year, just two months apart....

True, but I'm still doubtful. Idoneth was a completely new army while DoK was an expansion of an existing army. From the rumors I've read, the Tyrion and Malekith elves will likely both be completely new armies like the Idoneth. I could be wrong, but I find it unlikely that we'll see four elf armies in two years. I'd rather see a new human army for Order if anything.

Oh, I see now that OP got his info from Larry Vela on BoLS, a known gak talker. The first 3 are a decent educated guess, the rest is trash.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Oh, I see now that OP got his info from Larry Vela on BoLS, a known gak talker. The first 3 are a decent educated guess, the rest is trash.

I was wondering where the source was coming from. The lack of reference to said source kind of made me wary, now I know why.

edit: Thats not to say a speculation/rumor thread can't be fun though.

... it was posted here to discuss.

There isn't a person roaming the earth that has any solid info. I doubt even the devs know what the release pipeline looks like long-term, as it is pretty much talked about enough to know that many projects are fiinished and GW sits on them for up to years before releasing them.

I am hopeful for an updated Flesh-Eater Courts book with the carrion empire set.

I think FEC and Skaven Skryre (or a Skaven battletome with Skryre in it) are a given, the new box set came with the announcement that there would be other releases for them. I seriously doubt they would toss out more than one model kit without a battletome.

I think Slaanesh is a safe bet, though given a lack of plot foreplay on either the AoS or 40k side I think it may be Q3 or Q4. I suspect the Slaanesh will be a huge load because it will include Daemons, Hosts on the AoS side, and Emperor's Children on the 40k side. Slaves to Darkness is likely as well IMO.

I am certrain that from this point on all legacy factions will be getting LoN style tomes, so all Skaven in one book.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I am certrain that from this point on all legacy factions will be getting LoN style tomes, so all Skaven in one book.

There are some that I think are more likely to get DoK/Sylvaneth style expansions. I would say the at least parts of the old High Elves fall in this category.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I am certrain that from this point on all legacy factions will be getting LoN style tomes, so all Skaven in one book.

Maybe, but DoK, Nighthaunt, and Gloomspite suggest there is a full spectrum. DoK and Nighthaunt are equivalent to one clan getting its own book, Gloomspite is the equivalent to 2 or 3 clans being wrapped up into one, Beasts of Chaos would be analogous to all Skaven.

LoN equivalent would be like... if they put all Chaos except Beasts into one battletome with an allegiance so good it was better to run a mono-god army using it rather than the Blades/Maggotkin/Arcanite battletome.

Been a while for me. What if FEC again?

Flesh Eater Courts. Solid assessment by auticus and Ninth.

Flesh eater courts.
Basically Noble heroes bravely running into battle to protect to kin and their lands

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Flesh eater courts.
Basically Noble heroes bravely running into battle to protect to kin and their lands

Yep, basically reimagined Bretonnians that aren't just a mean joke about the French.


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 NinthMusketeer wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
I am certrain that from this point on all legacy factions will be getting LoN style tomes, so all Skaven in one book.

Maybe, but DoK, Nighthaunt, and Gloomspite suggest there is a full spectrum. DoK and Nighthaunt are equivalent to one clan getting its own book, Gloomspite is the equivalent to 2 or 3 clans being wrapped up into one, Beasts of Chaos would be analogous to all Skaven.

LoN equivalent would be like... if they put all Chaos except Beasts into one battletome with an allegiance so good it was better to run a mono-god army using it rather than the Blades/Maggotkin/Arcanite battletome.

Ok, definitions are a bit murky here, and I don't mean to go all No True Scotsman, but I would consider DoK and Nighthaunt new factions that use some old assets.

To clarify, the "Legion" books are LoN, the three Chaos god tomes, BoC and Gloomspite. Some just blur the lines between first generation AoS microfactions more than others.

What I originally meant was that I don't expect any more microfaction books ala Fyreslayers, Pestilens or FEC. It's all either Old World soup or full-sized new or expanded old factions from here on.

I don't really know what to expect for FEC tho, their theme is so tightly focused they can't be lumped into any soup easily, but they are also such a minor player in the world I don't see them getting a Nighthaunt sized expansion. Would looove to be wrong!

Slaanesh means we complete the Greater Daemons in plastic right? That is exciting. I would love to do a Chaos Undivided force with all three greater demons and one of each of the other units.

 Da Boss wrote:
Slaanesh means we complete the Greater Daemons in plastic right? That is exciting. I would love to do a Chaos Undivided force with all three greater demons and one of each of the other units.

Yeah,

I imagine the Slaanesh release is going to be similar in scale to the nurgle and Tzeentch releasaes with 40k and AoS releases.

I'm going to go ahead and agree with the rest of the thread. I think this year we will see a mix of the very old battletomes updated, as well as a few updates.

I'm sure we will see FEC, Slaanesh DarkOath, and some form of Skaven. I am curious if they are going to go with Clan Skyre or a LoN style battletome for Skaven though.

I also imagine we will see one of the Aelves, likely the Dark Aelves or whatever they are going to be called.

For older battletome updates, I've heard there is supposed to be a KO second wave, and Fyreslayers need an updated battletome. I'm sure a few armies will get the BoC treatment, which isn't bad.

Presumably 'Slaves to Darkness' will work out like Gloomspite. Cobbles together Everchosen, Slaves to Darkness and throws in some new Darkoath units (replacing the old Chaos Marauders no doubt). Something tells me it won't be called 'Slaves to Darkness' just because the name sounds distinctly... I don't know, a bit off-putting to newcomers.

I'm sceptical about Slaanesh. I get the feeling they'll come closer to Emperor's Children if short term history has taught us anything about Legion/Chaos AoS releases and with Black Legion on the horizon, it seems some ways off.

I hope Grotbag scuttlers (and Gitmob Grots (they are mentioned in the books, but they have removed their miniatures ..)

We know that skavens, fleash eaters, slaanesh and darkoaths(slave to darkness) will have book.

And by rumors fireslayers, ogors and ironjaws will have and update codex (it could be since GW announced many more endless spells)

I have a feeling they will try to consolidate some of the lines into new battletomes without necessarily releasing new units. That or they will just stop selling some of those units as they don't have a proper faction to support them.

With 40k finishing its fast book release my guess is that they will want something else to fill that schedule and AoS will fit that nicely. Perhaps updates on older tomes for 2.0. Wouldn't mind seeing an update to Blades of Khorne for 2.0.

That would put khorne at 3 books since AOS released with a lot of factions sitting at 0 books.

auticus wrote:
That would put khorne at 3 books since AOS released with a lot of factions sitting at 0 books.

We are already at 3 Battletomes for Stormcast Eternals. Also, releasing a battletome does not imply there will be a model release much like many of the 8th edition Codexes so they could easily release Blades of Khorne the same month as another. Truth is all the battletomes that were released in 1.0 and came before 2018 need a revisit as they are falling behind their newest counterparts.

I would also say that all formalized factions have a battletome with the rest being up in air until they get an actual battletome to formalize them. Otherwise they are just "potentials" that GW may or may not drop like Tomb Kings although at this point it wouldn't surprise me if they would suddenly re-release Tomb Kings to great fanfare.

I would still prefer the other factions get brought up to date before khorne got a 3rd book.

I wasn't referring to models being released. And yes I am aware the stormcast are having new material practically yearly which I feel is also to the detriment of community building.

I'm really hoping Skaven isn't just Skryre. Ninja rats of Eshin are too awesome to not include!

The Pestilens book is very poor grounds for assuming Skaven will get 1 book per clan (or 1 clan per book, if you wanna look at it that way). It's a very old battletome and completely out of whack with the current design paradigm. And thankfully there's absolutely NO other grounds for assuming it.

I kinda suspect they will combine some of the earlier tomes like Skaven. Greenskinz is also another prime example of an army that has almost no units for sale currently. I really doubt that battletome will survive on its own unless GW suddenly decides to spend a lot of money on making what amounts to generic Orcs.

Also, with them introducing brand new armies like Idoneth, Kharadron, and of course Stormcast, it starts to be a bit of an overkill having every faction subdivided into the smallest singular unit like Shadowblades or something similar. The amount of new units required for those factions to be fleshed out would limit a lot what they can bring out per year. So I believe there will be consolidation phase like they did when they moved from Khorne Bloodbound to Blades of Khorne(which, to earlier discussion would mean Blades of Khorne has only technically had 1 codex so far )

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 lord_blackfang wrote:
The Pestilens book is very poor grounds for assuming Skaven will get 1 book per clan (or 1 clan per book, if you wanna look at it that way). It's a very old battletome and completely out of whack with the current design paradigm. And thankfully there's absolutely NO other grounds for assuming it.

Pestilens and Skryre each having their own (very different) allegiances would be grounds for assuming such.

 Arbitrator wrote:


I'm sceptical about Slaanesh. I get the feeling they'll come closer to Emperor's Children if short term history has taught us anything about Legion/Chaos AoS releases and with Black Legion on the horizon, it seems some ways off.

They literally said that there would be new models for 2019.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/01/01/1st-dec-the-top-5-things-to-look-forward-to-in-2019gw-homepage-post-3/

While Slaanesh may still be mysteriously absent from the Mortal Realms, his servants have been very busy indeed – we daresay that Wrath and Rapture heralds even more new models for the Hosts…