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It has been claimed in an eariler thread, that aeldari and necrons forces fought together against demons of slaanesh during the war in heaven, referring to "rise of the ynnari: wild rider" as the soruce.

- but that is not the case.

Spoilers for "rise of the ynnari: wild rider"

I'm pretty sure that "correcting the record" in relation to previous threads is not the purpose of the background board. If you've got a question though, I'm sure someone will be happy to answer it.

 Ginjitzu wrote:
I'm pretty sure that "correcting the record" in relation to previous threads is not the purpose of the background board. If you've got a question though, I'm sure someone will be happy to answer it.

"40K Background Forum is for serious discussion and research of the 40K background stories known as fluff.

This includes asking and answering sensible questions about life in the 40K era, which might relate to all kinds of Imperial and Xeno military or civilian life providing your discussion remains based in the “serious” 40K universe."

It was a claim that sparked quite a lot of confusion, so I am pretty sure that several users will be glad that this question is answered/settled now.

I for one am happy to read this, I was worried GW had butchered some more pre-fall fluff.

This ties in directly with the serpent beneath, the alpha legion copied the necron pylons but needed psykers to activate them, something the necrons have never had to our knowledge, so necrons and eldar working together fills in that pretty large plot hole, I wonder if it was intentional.

It helps if you actually read the book.

Amid tatters of jade lightning a creature thrice the size of anything that had come before burst free. It had a waspish torso that ended in a snake body tipped with a gleaming sting. Its four arms moved in mesmerising patters, each fist clutching a blade of gold as long as an aeldari was tall. Incredibly delicate-looking wings fluttered from its back, wide enough to stretch from one side of the avenue to the other, the scales upon them ever-moving, forming runes of She Who Thirsts that burnt the eyes to look upon.

He trailed away as a new abomination burst from the barrier around the pyramid. Equal in size to the prince already roaming the sky, the new arrival stalked forward on three pairs on insect legs, its body shining like polished chitin. The shell gleamed with enchanting flashes, mesmerising to look upon, the face that stared from beneath the carapace a startling rendition of a handsome but androgynous aeldari with enticing gaze. Claws like silver daggers slashed through the necrontyr while blasts of power burned harmlessly from its shining wingcase.

The first thought was that a giant aeldari warrior had stepped from legend, a gold-armoured incarnation of Khaine perhaps. Though it stood many times Yvraine's height, the daemon possessed two legs, two arms and an enchanting but otherwise normal face beneat an ancient-styled helm crowned with curling thorn-barbed stems. Slender limbs were garbed in vambraces and greaves: a breastplate adorned with perverse runes of nightmare clasped a single-breasted chest. In one hand the daemonic noble carried a flickering whip and the other a spear that split into two tines, the blades carved with runes that smoked as they touched the mortal air. Only upon closer look did Yvraine see that the whip was in fact made of intertwined writhing figures, each an aeldari figure no bigger than her thumb, limbs entwined with others to shape the flex of the impossible lash. The had of the spear was the same, forged from the spirits of dead aeldari.

 Wyzilla wrote:
It helps if you actually read the book.

Amid tatters of jade lightning a creature thrice the size of anything that had come before burst free. It had a waspish torso that ended in a snake body tipped with a gleaming sting. Its four arms moved in mesmerising patters, each fist clutching a blade of gold as long as an aeldari was tall. Incredibly delicate-looking wings fluttered from its back, wide enough to stretch from one side of the avenue to the other, the scales upon them ever-moving, forming runes of She Who Thirsts that burnt the eyes to look upon.

He trailed away as a new abomination burst from the barrier around the pyramid. Equal in size to the prince already roaming the sky, the new arrival stalked forward on three pairs on insect legs, its body shining like polished chitin. The shell gleamed with enchanting flashes, mesmerising to look upon, the face that stared from beneath the carapace a startling rendition of a handsome but androgynous aeldari with enticing gaze. Claws like silver daggers slashed through the necrontyr while blasts of power burned harmlessly from its shining wingcase.

The first thought was that a giant aeldari warrior had stepped from legend, a gold-armoured incarnation of Khaine perhaps. Though it stood many times Yvraine's height, the daemon possessed two legs, two arms and an enchanting but otherwise normal face beneat an ancient-styled helm crowned with curling thorn-barbed stems. Slender limbs were garbed in vambraces and greaves: a breastplate adorned with perverse runes of nightmare clasped a single-breasted chest. In one hand the daemonic noble carried a flickering whip and the other a spear that split into two tines, the blades carved with runes that smoked as they touched the mortal air. Only upon closer look did Yvraine see that the whip was in fact made of intertwined writhing figures, each an aeldari figure no bigger than her thumb, limbs entwined with others to shape the flex of the impossible lash. The had of the spear was the same, forged from the spirits of dead aeldari.

Try and read my post again...

"Later, the ynnari open a gate that is both of necron and aeldari design (so we learn that they forged it together to close a rift), and daemons of slaanesh pour out. It is a portal into the realm of chaos, but it is NEVER stated that it was sealed to keep slaanesh at bay."

I just got a response from Gav Thrope (the author).

"Hi,
Thanks for getting in touch, and for reading.
As intimated in the novel itself, it is very likely that there is no singular War in Heaven, but many events over the long aeons that the Aeldari cyclic mythology has interpreted as the War in Heaven, be it fights among the Old Ones, combating the Necrons and against the rise of Chaos. It's also true that the non-linear nature of the warp means that Slaanesh has always existed, though created by the Fall of the Eldar. As soon as Slaanesh came into being, Slaanesh had always come into being, hence the nascent power of Slaanesh to influence the Eldar minds and bring them to the Fall, creating a lovely loop / paradox!

I always advise caution about taking specific examples and events - such as those depicted in Wild Rider - and creating generalities out of them. A specific set of Tomb World, led by a particular Necron Lord, at some point allied with a faction of the Aeldari to defeat and trap a daemonic incursion. Aeldari and Necrons both came about sixty million years ago, but that particular incident may not have occurred until later. The Aeldari myths are certainly vague enough and the Watcher of the Dark's memories are incomplete, so there's always wiggle room. regarding what happened and when..;-)

Cheers,

Gav"

 Andersp90 wrote:
I always advise caution about taking specific examples and events - such as those depicted in Wild Rider - and creating generalities out of them.

I feel an urge to put this in my signature.

OneThing, is that you? Did you come back?