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2019/03/03 02:33:40
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I started an Admech army a while ago just for giggles. I like robots, the funkier the better. I was thinking of making a fun (although not necessarily effective) list including the robot and drones from Blackstone Fortress. I thought the Ambots would be an interesting addition to this list.
Do you guys think they will stay Necromunda only, or come to 40k?
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2019/03/03 02:37:12
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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if anything they are great count as for multidudes of things...
Centurions
Admech bots
Sentinels
Go buckwild with the design or conversions
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2019/03/03 05:42:15
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Given the size of the new and "improved" Obliterators, these would make far more interesting/attractive models for those as well. Particularly for Iron Warrior players. A few extra guns and a head-swap and you're golden.
I saw a quick photoshop of one used as an Ork boss in mega armour or what-not and it looked good. I fully believe 90% of the ambots purchased will be for kitbashed projects and special models, or counts-as models. I doubt you'll see much use of them in any proper army.
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2019/03/03 06:22:24
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Fixture of Dakka
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I count certainly see them used as "counts as" proxies for CC Kastelan Robots, subject to checking they're the same height.
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2019/03/03 06:22:32
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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I'm crossing my fingers they'll get rules for 40K - if just in White Dwarf. As soon as I found out about them, I bought a pair - plan to use them in my Admech army, Genestealer cult army (they are used for mining...) and/or my Forge Fathers army.
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2019/03/03 08:43:12
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Ladies Love the Vibro-Cannon Operator
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Well, the models are great but they have not been made for 40k.
But as proxy models they are really useful.
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2019/03/03 11:58:41
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Dakka Veteran
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They will get rules, I'm about 99% on this.
GW makes decisions based on sales alone.
These will sell insanely well already as proxies, so if they can spend 20 mins typing up more rules to add more profit, they will in a heartbeat.
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2019/03/04 16:44:03
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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While they've given 40k models Necromunda rules. They haven't really given Necromunda models 40k. So I'm doubtful they would here.
If they did what army would get them? -Maybe AdMech, or IG, or Inquisition?
We haven't really seen rules for the Ambots, we have seen the community publish where one Ambull killed two Ambots.
We know an Ambot has melta weapons built into its fists, that its fists has something like a shred bonus, and Ambot has some sort of berzerker mode.
My guess in 40k it'd look something like this:
PL 10
5" 4+ 4+ 5 5 5 3 10 3+
2x meltaguns
2x mining claws Str +3 AP -4 Dmg 3
Canticle of the Omnissiah
Mining Automata Protocols:
Rock Braking Protocol: While in effect, when the model is stationary and when rolling to determine the damage done by its meltaguns roll 2d6 and select the higher of the two.
Berzerker Protocol: While in effect, may reroll charge rolls.
Explodes
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2019/03/04 16:47:08
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Mekboy on Kustom Deth Kopta
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they are neat, I will be making a mega armored warboss out of one and a big mek in mega armor for the other, adding magnets for kff or sag on the same model.
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2019/03/04 16:50:40
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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aka_mythos wrote:While they've given 40k models Necromunda rules. They haven't really given Necromunda models 40k. So I'm doubtful they would here.
If they did what army would get them? -Maybe AdMech, or IG, or Inquisition?...
They'll have the Imperial Robots keyword and be part of the same "army" as UR-025 out of Blackstone Fortress. Then they'll release a "robot overseer" model as an HQ and give them a Codex.
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2019/03/04 17:57:08
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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AnomanderRake wrote: aka_mythos wrote:While they've given 40k models Necromunda rules. They haven't really given Necromunda models 40k. So I'm doubtful they would here.
If they did what army would get them? -Maybe AdMech, or IG, or Inquisition?...
They'll have the Imperial Robots keyword and be part of the same "army" as UR-025 out of Blackstone Fortress. Then they'll release a "robot overseer" model as an HQ and give them a Codex.
I could easily imagine them just making its overseer an Enginseer or releasing it with the Vaulk mini or the Techpriest previewed for Combat Arena.
Alternatively, I could see them maybe make them more autonomous, but maybe less effective particularly if they were made available to a non-mechanicus faction.
I would love to see Mechanicus Techpriests get to the point where they have a bunch of different support options that tag along with an enginseer or techpriest the way servitors typically do. Its one more way for Mechanicus to distinguish themselves.
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2019/03/04 18:09:25
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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aka_mythos wrote: AnomanderRake wrote: aka_mythos wrote:While they've given 40k models Necromunda rules. They haven't really given Necromunda models 40k. So I'm doubtful they would here.
If they did what army would get them? -Maybe AdMech, or IG, or Inquisition?...
They'll have the Imperial Robots keyword and be part of the same "army" as UR-025 out of Blackstone Fortress. Then they'll release a "robot overseer" model as an HQ and give them a Codex.
I could easily imagine them just making its overseer an Enginseer or releasing it with the Vaulk mini or the Techpriest previewed for Combat Arena.
Alternatively, I could see them maybe make them more autonomous, but maybe less effective particularly if they were made available to a non-mechanicus faction.
I would love to see Mechanicus Techpriests get to the point where they have a bunch of different support options that tag along with an enginseer or techpriest the way servitors typically do. Its one more way for Mechanicus to distinguish themselves.
Or the Legio Cybernetica could un-mothball all the cool robots we're not allowed to use in 8e.
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2019/03/04 19:24:18
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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AnomanderRake wrote: aka_mythos wrote: AnomanderRake wrote: aka_mythos wrote:While they've given 40k models Necromunda rules. They haven't really given Necromunda models 40k. So I'm doubtful they would here.
If they did what army would get them? -Maybe AdMech, or IG, or Inquisition?...
They'll have the Imperial Robots keyword and be part of the same "army" as UR-025 out of Blackstone Fortress. Then they'll release a "robot overseer" model as an HQ and give them a Codex.
I could easily imagine them just making its overseer an Enginseer or releasing it with the Vaulk mini or the Techpriest previewed for Combat Arena.
Alternatively, I could see them maybe make them more autonomous, but maybe less effective particularly if they were made available to a non-mechanicus faction.
I would love to see Mechanicus Techpriests get to the point where they have a bunch of different support options that tag along with an enginseer or techpriest the way servitors typically do. Its one more way for Mechanicus to distinguish themselves.
Or the Legio Cybernetica could un-mothball all the cool robots we're not allowed to use in 8e.
This X 100000000000000000
I want ROBOTS!
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2019/03/04 19:38:28
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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AnomanderRake wrote: aka_mythos wrote: AnomanderRake wrote: aka_mythos wrote:While they've given 40k models Necromunda rules. They haven't really given Necromunda models 40k. So I'm doubtful they would here.
If they did what army would get them? -Maybe AdMech, or IG, or Inquisition?...
They'll have the Imperial Robots keyword and be part of the same "army" as UR-025 out of Blackstone Fortress. Then they'll release a "robot overseer" model as an HQ and give them a Codex.
I could easily imagine them just making its overseer an Enginseer or releasing it with the Vaulk mini or the Techpriest previewed for Combat Arena.
Alternatively, I could see them maybe make them more autonomous, but maybe less effective particularly if they were made available to a non-mechanicus faction.
I would love to see Mechanicus Techpriests get to the point where they have a bunch of different support options that tag along with an enginseer or techpriest the way servitors typically do. Its one more way for Mechanicus to distinguish themselves.
Or the Legio Cybernetica could un-mothball all the cool robots we're not allowed to use in 8e.
I think some of the explanation makes sense, some Automata just can't be made any more, others were too close to artificial intelligence that the Mechanicus wouldn't make more even if they could, others used too many biological parts and were prone to daemonic possession... All fluffy reasons why some shouldn't be available in the 40k era. Ambots are a good example of how the Mechanicus has adapted, by making use of lower order life as a template for these machines.
FW intends to eventually make more of the Mechanicum 30k automata available in 40k, its just that the book that was suppose to cover that got indefinitely delayed/canceled.
I would love to see more Automata in 40k, but short term I can appreciate something as characterful as an Ambot... or some crazier servitors, cybernetic pit fighers, chrono-gladiators... or any of the crazier stuff thats been mentioned in the 40k setting.
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2019/03/04 20:25:49
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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aka_mythos wrote:While they've given 40k models Necromunda rules. They haven't really given Necromunda models 40k. So I'm doubtful they would here.
If they did what army would get them? -Maybe AdMech, or IG, or Inquisition?
We haven't really seen rules for the Ambots, we have seen the community publish where one Ambull killed two Ambots.
We know an Ambot has melta weapons built into its fists, that its fists has something like a shred bonus, and Ambot has some sort of berzerker mode.
My guess in 40k it'd look something like this:
PL 10
5" 4+ 4+ 5 5 5 3 10 3+
2x meltaguns
2x mining claws Str +3 AP -4 Dmg 3
Canticle of the Omnissiah
Mining Automata Protocols:
Rock Braking Protocol: While in effect, when the model is stationary and when rolling to determine the damage done by its meltaguns roll 2d6 and select the higher of the two.
Berzerker Protocol: While in effect, may reroll charge rolls.
Explodes
Yeah, that seems about right. I definitely think Kastellan Robots from the Admech should have more punch than some glorified mining bots.
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2019/03/04 20:26:41
Subject: What's the likelyhood Ambots will get 40k rules?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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I can understand the too scared aspect of it but....they have castellans. They're supposed to be "safe" derivatives of Castellax, right? so where's the rest? I mean having only 2 models that are robots in the entire 40k Admech range is kinda lame.
Back on topic
The Ambot hopefully will be the start of cool weird stuff for all. the fact they can do these as on the same necromunda sprue size is really good. the same can be said for the Cerastus knights for titanicus.
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