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So chaplains, dark apostles, etc. can let other units use their Leadership. So I never considered this rule before but I assume that when I can use their leadership because the Chaplin hasn't lost any models that round he provides an unmodified amount, right?

Example: 10 man marine squad loses 5 models, losing more on a 4+. A chaplain would provide Ld9 so they would lose more on a 5+ or would they auto pass?

 fraser1191 wrote:
So chaplains, dark apostles, etc. can let other units use their Leadership. So I never considered this rule before but I assume that when I can use their leadership because the Chaplin hasn't lost any models that round he provides an unmodified amount, right?

Example: 10 man marine squad loses 5 models, losing more on a 4+. A chaplain would provide Ld9 so they would lose more on a 5+ or would they auto pass?

No.

To take a Morale test, roll a dice and add the number of models from the unit that have been slain this turn.

This has nothing to do with what leadership the unit is using. It just means you get to compare it to the Chaplain Leadership value instead of the unit's Leadership value.

A unit that has lost 5 models will roll a D6+5 and then compare it to their Leadership. If their Leadership happens to be replaced by another models value, then you use that value instead.

The unit doesn't "lose more on a 4+". This is why short-cutting rolls like this is dangerous and leads to incorrect assumptions and results.

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 fraser1191 wrote:
So chaplains, dark apostles, etc. can let other units use their Leadership. So I never considered this rule before but I assume that when I can use their leadership because the Chaplin hasn't lost any models that round he provides an unmodified amount, right?

Example: 10 man marine squad loses 5 models, losing more on a 4+. A chaplain would provide Ld9 so they would lose more on a 5+ or would they auto pass?

No.

To take a Morale test, roll a dice and add the number of models from the unit that have been slain this turn.

This has nothing to do with what leadership the unit is using. It just means you get to compare it to the Chaplain Leadership value instead of the unit's Leadership value.

A unit that has lost 5 models will roll a D6+5 and then compare it to their Leadership. If their Leadership happens to be replaced by another models value, then you use that value instead.

The unit doesn't "lose more on a 4+". This is why short-cutting rolls like this is dangerous and leads to incorrect assumptions and results.

If that unit doesn't lose more on a 4+, then what happens on a 4+? Does he get more models? Are the models that run away replaced with something else?

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 fraser1191 wrote:
So chaplains, dark apostles, etc. can let other units use their Leadership. So I never considered this rule before but I assume that when I can use their leadership because the Chaplin hasn't lost any models that round he provides an unmodified amount, right?

Example: 10 man marine squad loses 5 models, losing more on a 4+. A chaplain would provide Ld9 so they would lose more on a 5+ or would they auto pass?

No.

To take a Morale test, roll a dice and add the number of models from the unit that have been slain this turn.

This has nothing to do with what leadership the unit is using. It just means you get to compare it to the Chaplain Leadership value instead of the unit's Leadership value.

A unit that has lost 5 models will roll a D6+5 and then compare it to their Leadership. If their Leadership happens to be replaced by another models value, then you use that value instead.

The unit doesn't "lose more on a 4+". This is why short-cutting rolls like this is dangerous and leads to incorrect assumptions and results.

The OP gave a valid shorthand way of expressing his question; don’t be obtuse.

OP, you have your sums correct (but remember ATSKNF!), and no, they don’t auto-pass. They just use the Chaplain’s Ld value in the Morale sum rather than their own.

Addong to this: some units and weapon abilities can modify Ld; in this case only the effected unit' Ld is modified, not the Ld actually used.

For example: if the chaplain is within 3" of a reiver unit then the Ld will be equal to the sgt's unit.

Kall3m0n wrote:

 BaconCatBug wrote:

 fraser1191 wrote:
So chaplains, dark apostles, etc. can let other units use their Leadership. So I never considered this rule before but I assume that when I can use their leadership because the Chaplin hasn't lost any models that round he provides an unmodified amount, right?

Example: 10 man marine squad loses 5 models, losing more on a 4+. A chaplain would provide Ld9 so they would lose more on a 5+ or would they auto pass?

No.

To take a Morale test, roll a dice and add the number of models from the unit that have been slain this turn.

This has nothing to do with what leadership the unit is using. It just means you get to compare it to the Chaplain Leadership value instead of the unit's Leadership value.

A unit that has lost 5 models will roll a D6+5 and then compare it to their Leadership. If their Leadership happens to be replaced by another models value, then you use that value instead.

The unit doesn't "lose more on a 4+". This is why short-cutting rolls like this is dangerous and leads to incorrect assumptions and results.

If that unit doesn't lose more on a 4+, then what happens on a 4+? Does he get more models? Are the models that run away replaced with something else?

the way the morale mechanic works is this:

In the Morale phase, you roll a D6, and you add that result to the number of casualties.

Let's say I have a marine squad and I lost 5 guys as you said: I roll a 4.

4+5 = 9.

My leadership value is 8.

That means I would lose 1 guy (9-8=1).

however, I'm near a chaplain. Instead of my leadership being 8, I use his leadership of 9.

9-9=0. I don't lose that guy.

That's all the chaplain does. He changes the value of your Leadership stat, he doesn't make you use the leadership of his unit (the unit of only 1 guy, who did not lose any models that turn)