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Battalion +5 command points
Iron Father Feirros
Primas Captain
* stalker bolt-rifle

10x intersessors
* Stalker Bolt-rifle

10x intersessors
* Stalker Bolt-rifle

10x intersessors
* Stalker Bolt-rifle

Vanguard +1 command point
Librarian Primas

Redemptor Dreadnought
* Heavy Onslaughter Gatling Cannon
* Onslaughter Gatling Cannon
* 2x stormbolters
* Icarus Rocket Pod

Redemptor Dreadnought
* Heavy Onslaughter Gatling Cannon
* Onslaughter Gatling Cannon
* 2x stormbolters
* Icarus Rocket Pod

Redemptor Dreadnought
* Heavy Onslaughter Gatling Cannon
* Onslaughter Gatling Cannon
* 2x stormbolters
* Icarus Rocket Pod

Tactical war-suit
* Heavy Ironhail Autocannon
* Ironhail heavy stubbers
* Frag Storm Granade Launcher

Tactical war-suit
* Heavy Ironhail Autocannon
* Ironhail heavy stubbers
* Frag Storm Granade Launcher

Spear Head +1 command point
(HQ)???

Eliminators
* 2x bolt sniper rifles
* 1x Instigator Bolt Carbine

Whirlwind
* Vengeance Launcher

Hunter

Hi guys this is my list for Iron Hands.
please give feed back.
also I dont know what HQ to get for the spear head. any suggestions?
also what do you thing is better the Heavy Onslaughter Gatling Cannon or the Macro Plasma Incinerator cannon

I think the Gatling cannon is generally better. Storm Talons or storm Hawks seem like an excellent choice for Iron hands. Hit on 2s re rolling 1s and can't be tagged. If you end up taking a few storm Hawks I don't see much need for the hunter. He is cheap an hard to kill, but his damage output is very low.

You have a very serious lack of anti-tank. Ask yourself, how would this list deal with Knights or triple Executioner Iron Hands lists?

the hunter is not synergized. marines are seriously in need of synergies to do well.

invictor suits are also not able to be dreadnaughts .. therefore not characters in ironhands and therefore not able to be warlord traited.

missing an HQ? low antitank? expensive but a chaplain dread is both, and VERY ironjhandsy fluffwise.

I was thinking of adding a chaplain dread,
as the hunter is out of stock I might go for the flyers as I already have 2 of those.
I was thinking of adding a leviathan and deredao just not quite sure what to take out

Why are there ten-man squads of Intercessors, instead of five man?

Ten man intercessor squads make the best use of the rapid fire strat and/or the sniper strat. Doubling the shots from 10 men rather than 5. Might be good to split a squad to cover objectives. Are you sure at least one squad shouldn't have the bolt rifles? For HQ why not take a lieutenant. 60pts and the aura is really nice and synergizes well with Iron father's bubble and the iron hands re roll hit rolls of 1 chapter tactic. If you go with flyers that spearhead detachment can become a flier detachment and won't need an HQ.

I think the hunter is a decent choice for objective camping, cheap T8 and can shoot long range.

I would swap out one or two of the intercessor squads for bolt rifles, the stalker rifle is heavy and they can move and shoot due to IH without penalty, but the bolt rifle is twice as many shots in many cases. Also your just not going to do the sniper strat often, it's 3 cp. You just aren't going to do it that often.

Honestly if you want sniper troops take sniper scouts, you will save CP.

I was taking the stalker bolters as its -3ap (with IH) and damage 2, I might take them out for bolt rifles.
does anyone have idea for anti-tank's except from chaplain dread, I'll be getting the chaplain dread but I dont think it alone is enough.

The storm hawks have an autocannon. A quad lascannon mortis comtemptor dread or a repulsor executioner perhaps. For stalkers vs bolt rifles, you will need to decide if you need more anti hord or more anti elite. Those stalkers will munch Primaris but struggle with termigaunts. Your redemptors and any flyers you add will have excellent hord killing ability.

Ven dread with twin LC. Make it a character, and it cant be targeted, unless its the closest visible enemy model. It hits on 2s, re-rolls 1s, when devastator doctrine is active.