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Not really sure of this yet, but it seems like a fun, visually appealing army in terms of concept.
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Not sure how many points that is but if you have points to spare Ii'd suggest an Inquisitor. It makes sense thematically IMO and Inquisitors have some nasty psychic powers available to them. Dominate and Terrify are both good.
Coteaz is a beast, able to cast 3 per turn and deny 2 per turn.
Typical Sisters squads are 5 or 15 but since you want to run mech 15 is outa the question.
For that much shooting not sure how well Bloody Rose is going to work since it's aimed at lots of melee. I'd suggest Martyred Lady, 1) For more miracle dice and 2) Junith (soon as she's released) as her floating pulpit is kinda mech-y and she gets 2d6 heavy flamer shots (but her special abilities only effect ML sisters.
As noted in the title of the thread, it's 2000, exactly. And I think 103 power level.
I'm going to insist on using Bloody Rose, regardless. The Inquisitor idea is interesting, at least I wouldn't lose Battle-Forged, but not sure what I'd kick out to get it and keep my list at 2000.
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2000 Point Battalion? A very odd choice. I'd think you could 5-model a number of those squads for double-ride in a Rhino and purchase enough additional models to build a Brigade. You are just 1 HQ, 2 Elite, and 2 Fast Attack away.
Possibly? I'd have to figure out a major reshuffling and possibly get rid of some units.
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I think the Imagifier with Tale of the Warrior is such a natural amplifier for this force it would be worth pursuing. Maybe downgrade some of the troops to smaller backfield capers/screens and add that a Preacher to your forward aura bubble? That move you in the direction of the Brigade too... add Celestine and some Seraphim and you're there.
You will unfortunately lose your Sacred Rites if you bring in an Inquisitor, which is kind of unfortunate...Greyfax and Celestine have such great lore.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I am a fool, you can take one in and army and not lose the bonuses as it is an Inquisitor trait.
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MacPhail wrote: I think the Imagifier with Tale of the Warrior is such a natural amplifier for this force it would be worth pursuing.
Will see what I can do for that. Would be a cheap way to take up a slot, too.
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Heavy Support -- Exorcist w/Conflagration Rockets -- Exorcist w/Conflagration Rockets -- Retributor Squad: 4x Retributors w/4x Heavy Bolters, Superior w/Chainsword, Bolt Pistol, Boltgun
Transport: -- Immolator w/Immolation Flamer, Heavy Bolter -- Immolator w/Immolation Flamer, Heavy Bolter -- Immolator w/3x Heavy Bolters, Storm Bolter -- Rhino -- Rhino -- Rhino -- Rhino -- Rhino
Spoiler:
Typing this out just to make sure my mental math is right on the transports... Canoness 1 w/Celestian squad 1 in Immolator 1 Canoness 2 w/Retributor squad in Rhino 5 Canoness 3 w/Dominion squad 1 in Immolator 2 Imagifier w/Celestian Squad 2 in Immolator 3 attle Sister Squads 1 and 2 in Rhino 1 Battle Sister Squads 3 and 4 in Rhino 2 Battle Sister Squads 5 and 6 in Rhino 3 Dominion Squads 2 and 3 in Rhino 4
A total of 64 girls and 10 tanks. Feels a bit fragile and underwhelming, numbers-wise...
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If you're going to do Bloody Rose, perhaps swap out some Celestians and Dominions to leverage their conviction a bit more. Repentia (become AP-4 in melee, work great out of a Rhino and will murder-mince almost anything in CC especially if being buffed by a Repentia Superior/Imagifier/Priest) and Seraphim (all those AP-1 Bolt Pistols, especially after a Deadly Descent stratagem) seem obvious choices for Bloody Rose.
That 3rd Cannoness could be come a Missionary to get the War Hymns buff too.
I actually considered instead of Celestians and Dominions having the new Seraphim elite assault units.
But... then I'd not have anything to accompany the slash-crazy Canoness, because canonesses can't have jump packs for some asinine reason.
Keeping my list exclusively Adepta Sororitas, so no ecclesiarchy units that aren't also Sororitas.
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This has been built primarily with Battlescribe, after a lot of peoples' input and some Counts-As playtesting. Should be better, while still fitting in with my theme of mechanized paladins, I think.
Bloody Rose Brigade, 2000 pts, 101pl, 15(11)cp
Spoiler:
Warlord: Canoness w/Blessed Blade, Plasma Pistol, Litanies of Faith, Beacon of Faith Canoness (Heroine) w/Beneficence, Inferno Pistol, Righteous Rage Canoness w/Power Sword, Plasma Pistol, Rod of Office, Iron Surplice
Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul Imagifier: Verified Saint, Tale of the Stoic, Tale of the Warrior
Warlord: Canoness w/Blessed Blade, Plasma Pistol, Litanies of Faith, Beacon of Faith Canoness (Heroine) w/Beneficence, Inferno Pistol, Righteous Rage
Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul Imagifier: Verified Saint, Tale of the Stoic, Tale of the Warrior
Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul Imagifier: Verified Saint, Tale of the Stoic, Tale of the Warrior
Seraphim Squad w/2x twin Inferno Pistols, Power Sword
Transports: Rhino x2
The 1k one is something I hope I can finish in a year assuming my finances hold, with the ultimate goal being the 2k one. The two are built so that I can just add on to the 1k list as I get more minis with the 2k list being the ultimate goal, so the point of the 1k one is to have a set of units I don't have to change in order to include in the 2k list. Same with the 500 list.
As much as I want to love Immolators, I feel like if I spend as little on transports as possible, the better off I am. Because I don't think the extra points of turning the three Celestian/Canoness (with one of them having an imagifier) rhinos in to Immolators is really going to pay off compared to the points I get from having all three exorcists with full blown exorcist launchers.
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Melissia wrote: This has been built primarily with Battlescribe, after a lot of peoples' input and some Counts-As playtesting. Should be better, while still fitting in with my theme of mechanized paladins, I think.
how did this list end up working for you? i'm just starting out and this one seems the most straight forward ive seen. i do have a box of arfo-flags that id like to ditch in there somewhere now that they are a little better in 9th. Was gonna PM you but i'm new here and didnt know if thats something people often do.
Melissia wrote: This has been built primarily with Battlescribe, after a lot of peoples' input and some Counts-As playtesting. Should be better, while still fitting in with my theme of mechanized paladins, I think.
Bloody Rose Brigade, 2000 pts, 101pl, 15(11)cp
Spoiler:
Warlord: Canoness w/Blessed Blade, Plasma Pistol, Litanies of Faith, Beacon of Faith
Canoness (Heroine) w/Beneficence, Inferno Pistol, Righteous Rage
Canoness w/Power Sword, Plasma Pistol, Rod of Office, Iron Surplice
Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul
Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul
Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul
Imagifier: Verified Saint, Tale of the Stoic, Tale of the Warrior
Warlord: Canoness w/Blessed Blade, Plasma Pistol, Litanies of Faith, Beacon of Faith
Canoness (Heroine) w/Beneficence, Inferno Pistol, Righteous Rage
Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul
Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul
Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul
Imagifier: Verified Saint, Tale of the Stoic, Tale of the Warrior
Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul
Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul
Celestian Squad w/2x Storm Bolters, Power Maul
Imagifier: Verified Saint, Tale of the Stoic, Tale of the Warrior
Seraphim Squad w/2x twin Inferno Pistols, Power Sword
Transports: Rhino x2
The 1k one is something I hope I can finish in a year assuming my finances hold, with the ultimate goal being the 2k one. The two are built so that I can just add on to the 1k list as I get more minis with the 2k list being the ultimate goal, so the point of the 1k one is to have a set of units I don't have to change in order to include in the 2k list. Same with the 500 list.
As much as I want to love Immolators, I feel like if I spend as little on transports as possible, the better off I am. Because I don't think the extra points of turning the three Celestian/Canoness (with one of them having an imagifier) rhinos in to Immolators is really going to pay off compared to the points I get from having all three exorcists with full blown exorcist launchers.
As good as the bloody rose celestians are, I can't really see a reason to not make this list argent shroud instead. The amount of extra range you'd be getting would make a significant difference over the course of the game, and honestly the amount of damage that 1 attack and 1 ap per celestian is likely to do is about one meltagun shot per squad. Losing the beneficence canoness is a bit of a hit, but honestly one you can afford to take if your units actually get to shoot at some point.
I agree on the immolators. Until the new melta/HB statlines come out Immolators are pretty much the worst unit in the codex and you're always get more value of 'rhino+something' than you will out of an immolator.
