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I’m a first time 30k player who is in the process of putting together a fluffy Zone Mortalis Blood Angels list for the NOVA Open. I wanted to get some feedback on what I can improve with this list, which I built around the Blood Angels Praetor in Terminator armor model. It’s a Delegatus for this list so I can run the Assault Force RoW.

A few questions:

1) How can I make my Angel's Tears unit a bigger threat to Power Armor Units?
2) My Tartaros are my anti-Terminator unit. I've been trying to figure out whether it makes sense to swap out the power axes for power mauls to get a few wounds in before letting the Terminators with Power Fists throw their attacks in at the end or just keep the Power Axes and go all in the round initiative round with all of my attacks. Which one makes sense for going after terminators? And should I swap out the flamer for a plasma blaster?
3) Would it make sense to downgrade the Contemptor to a Cortus Class to free up some more points? If so, would it make sense to add another Terminator to my Tartaros unit? Or should I use those points elsewhere in the list?

Thanks everyone!

++ Zone Mortalis - Combatant (Legiones Astartes: Age of Darkness Army List) [997pts] ++

Elites +

Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [200pts] . Contemptor Dreadnought, Legion: Toxiferno Cannon . . Dreadnought Close Combat Weapon: Meltagun

The Angel's Tears [220pts]: 2x Angel's Tears Grenade Launcher, 4x Erelim, 2x Iliastus Pettern Assault Cannon with Suspensor Web . Arch-Elelim: Artificer Armour, 2x Plasma Pistol . . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades . Chainsword or Combat Blade: Chainswords/Combat Blades

HQ +

Delegatus [127pts]: Blade of Perdition, On Foot, Relics of the Dark Age of Technology, Volkite Charger . Consul . . Delegatus . Tartaros Pattern Terminator Armour: Terminator Armour

Troops +

Breacher Siege Squad, Legion [245pts]: 9x Breacher Siege Space Marines, Legion . Additional Wargear: 2x Flamer . Breacher Siege Sergeant, Legion: Artificer Armour, Bolter, Melta Bombs . . Power Weapon: Power Sword

Terminator Squad, Legion , Compulsory [205pts] . Tartaros Pattern Terminator Armour . Terminator Sergeant, Legion: Combi-Bolter, Grenade Harness . . Power Weapon: Power Axe . Terminators, Legion: Heavy Flamer . . Power Weapon: Power Axe . Terminators, Legion: Combi-Bolter . . Power Weapon: Power Axe . Terminators, Legion: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist . Terminators, Legion: Combi-Bolter, Power Fist

Allegiance +

Legion and Allegiance: IX: Blood Angels, Loyalist
Rite of War: Zone Mortalis Assault Force

++ Total: [997pts] ++

If you're fighting Terminators one power axe attack is worth between two and four other attacks (depending on what the Terminators' Invulnerable save is). Keep the axes.

Downgrading the Contemptor to a Cortus is a reasonable thing to do. WS/BS5 and side AV12 are nice but not always necessary, especially in small games; the extra Terminator would probably help.