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Hey all,

I've finished building my 1500 pts list I've previously posted but now having second thoughts about my raptor squad. On paper they're just abit garbage and I see them generally get slatted across the net. So I've decided to tweak my list:


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [96 PL, 7CP, 1,500pts] ++

Legion: Night Lords

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Host Raptorial

+ HQ +

Chaos Lord with Jump Pack [6 PL, 103pts]: Claws of the Black Hunt, 2x Lightning Claw, Mark of Khorne, The Tip of the Claw, Warlord

Daemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 165pts]: Malefic talon, Warptime, Wings
. Slaanesh

Dark Apostle [5 PL, 72pts]: Benediction of Darkness, Mark of Tzeentch, Mutating Invocation

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [9 PL, 120pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. 29x Chaos Cultist w/ Autogun
. Cultist Champion: Autogun

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 80pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Chainsword
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ Heavy or Special Weapon: Lascannon

Chaos Space Marines [4 PL, 75pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Chainsword
. 3x Marine w/ Boltgun
. Marine w/ Heavy or Special Weapon: Missile launcher

+ Elites +

Dark Disciples - Use entry from "No Force Org Slot"

Hellforged Contemptor Dreadnought [10 PL, 138pts]: 2x Butcher cannon, Mark of Slaanesh

+ Fast Attack +

Bikers [11 PL, 207pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. Biker: Chainsword, Combi-bolter
. Biker Champion: Chainsword, Combi-bolter

Chaos Spawn [10 PL, 100pts]: 5x Chaos Spawn, Mark of Khorne

Warp Talons [12 PL, 190pts]: Mark of Khorne
. 9x Warp Talon: 9x Lightning Claw (pair)
. Warp Talon Champion: Lightning Claw (pair)

+ Heavy Support +

Havocs [7 PL, 110pts]: Mark of Slaanesh
. Aspiring Champion: Boltgun, Chainsword
. 4x Havoc w/ autocannon: 4x Autocannon

+ Flyer +

Heldrake [9 PL, 140pts]: Baleflamer, Mark of Slaanesh

++ Total: [96 PL, 7CP, 1,500pts] ++

So I've got a full squad of spawn (modelled as crypt flayers) to add to the pressure of the bikes, heldrake and Daemon prince I'll shoot up the board T1. They're fast, good toughness, hit hard, lots of wounds, cheap and synergies with the -1 LD.

This has also afforded me a full squad of autocannon havoc's which shall hopefully help deal with Primaris from afar.

Think the list might have some trouble Vs mech lists but if that happens you just got to play the mission

Is spawns' mov 8" fast?

 CadianGateTroll wrote:
Is spawns' mov 8" fast?

7"

Raptors are a bit of an odd duck. Atm it is better to run a MSU with combiplas and 2 PG''s with slaanesh as a drop in combo then actually doing melee.

One of the issues is, that charges are not guaranteed and them not beeing overly effective at fighting. Core chainsword infantry often seems to have that problem. 2 Attacks just odn't cut iot often.

Not Online!!! wrote:
Raptors are a bit of an odd duck. Atm it is better to run a MSU with combiplas and 2 PG''s with slaanesh as a drop in combo then actually doing melee.

One of the issues is, that charges are not guaranteed and them not beeing overly effective at fighting. Core chainsword infantry often seems to have that problem. 2 Attacks just odn't cut iot often.

I've got the host raptoral warlord trait to make the charge more reliable but tbh when they get in who are they scaring besides Eldar/Sisters or Tau? So yeah totally with you. To drop down and just use plasma to me is just abit of a waste. Think this change is far better, more board presence T1 with still some scary Deepstrike threat T2 with the Warp Talons + Lord which actually are tasty in combat with the +2 to charge and new Strats for 3D6 charge!