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Thinking about running this as my 2020 Guard List. Atleast until GW forces me to change it again...lol

I have Aradia for the +1 to hit power. And with the PA Strat she and the Wyrdvane psykers get boots to cast with will reliably allow me to get all 3 powers off. I am still not sure how the beat way to use the Scions though. One of the Tempeator Primes will get Old Grudges with the new strat and will be hanging back with the Tank Commanders


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [17 PL, -1CP, 286pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Regimental Doctrine: Astra Millitarum, Diciplined Shooters, Wilderness Survivors

+ HQ +

Aradia Madellan [2 PL, 40pts]

Tempestor Prime [3 PL, 40pts]: Tempestus Command Rod

Tempestor Prime [3 PL, -1CP, 35pts]: Field Commander, Hot-shot Laspistol, Warlord, WT: Old Grudges

+ Troops +

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 57pts]
. 2x Scion
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 57pts]
. 2x Scion
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 57pts]
. 2x Scion
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [55 PL, -1CP, 857pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Cadian

+ Stratagems +

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Emperor's Wrath Artillery Company

+ HQ +

Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol, Relic (Emperor's Wrath): Agripinaa-Class Orbital Tracker

Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol

Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]
. 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]
. 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]
. 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

+ Elites +

Astropath [1 PL, 15pts]: Laspistol, Psychic Barrier

Bullgryns [19 PL, 294pts]
. Bullgryn: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield
. Bullgryn: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield
. Bullgryn: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield
. Bullgryn: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield
. Bullgryn: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield
. Bullgryn: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield
. Bullgryn Bone 'ead: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield

Ministorum Priest [2 PL, 35pts]: Laspistol

Wyrdvane Psykers [2 PL, 42pts]: Nightshroud, 6x Wyrdvane Psyker

+ Heavy Support +

Basilisks [13 PL, 216pts]
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [53 PL, -3CP, 855pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Cadian

+ Stratagems +

Imperial Commander's Armoury [-1CP]: 1 additional Heirloom of Conquest

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Emperor's Fist Tank Company

Tank Ace [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Tank Commander [12 PL, 199pts]: Battle Cannon, Lascannon, Master Mechanic, Plasma Cannons, Relic (Emperor's Fist): Hammer of Sunderance

Tank Commander [12 PL, 199pts]: Battle Cannon, Lascannon, Plasma Cannons

Tank Commander [12 PL, 198pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolters, Heavy Stubber, Turret-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon, Weapon Expert

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]
. 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]
. 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]
. 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

+ Heavy Support +

Manticore [8 PL, 139pts]: Full Payload, Heavy Bolter, Hunter-Killer Missile

++ Total: [125 PL, -5CP, 1,998pts] ++

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I don't think you can put the tempestes scions in anything but an actual tempestes regimental style, meaning no customs. I think.

That being said I like the list, 2 basi + 1 manti + 3 TC is a fair dinkun bit of armor.

Aradian help hitting will be very rare indeed, useful only on the heavy weapons squad (that already has a hit or wound stratagem it can access) and not useful with armor or scions. The reason being, she can't dropstrike in with them, and she can't affect vehicles with her special spell.

You are going to be looking for a scions doctrine anyway. One has a warlord that grants reroll 1's in six inches to his boys, and that might be a good fit with all that plasma firing hot.

I believe you have an illegal number of tank aces, to my understanding there is only 1 you can get by taking it, and one you can get by giving up a warlord trait to possess it. No third, meaning, you probably want to drop master mechanic off the hammer. The gat cannon is just too sweet to give up, and most armies will brush aside even a MM tank like its just chaff on turn 1. Most competitive armies, anyway.

I reckon getting wyrdvane+primaris together is a good start for your psykers, though, that's well thought out.

Reworked the list after a few games. The Wydvern Psykers just die to the first thing that shoots at them (Mortor squads or TFC) because they don't have the character key word.


++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [15 PL, -1CP, 243pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Regimental Doctrine: Astra Millitarum, Diciplined Shooters, Wilderness Survivors

+ HQ +

Tempestor Prime [3 PL, 40pts]: Tempestus Command Rod

Tempestor Prime [3 PL, -1CP, 40pts]: Display Astra Militarum Orders, Field Commander, Tempestus Command Rod, Warlord, WT: Old Grudges

+ Troops +

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 57pts]
. 2x Scion
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 57pts]
. 2x Scion
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 49pts]
. 2x Scion
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Hot-shot Volley Gun
. Tempestor: Chainsword, Hot-shot Laspistol

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [57 PL, -1CP, 875pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Cadian

+ Stratagems +

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Emperor's Wrath Artillery Company

+ HQ +

Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol, Relic (Emperor's Wrath): Agripinaa-Class Orbital Tracker

Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol

Company Commander [2 PL, 30pts]: Chainsword, Laspistol

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]
. 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]
. 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]
. 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

+ Elites +

Astropath [1 PL, 15pts]: Laspistol, Psychic Barrier

Astropath [1 PL, 15pts]: Laspistol, Psychic Barrier

Bullgryns [19 PL, 294pts]
. Bullgryn: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield
. Bullgryn: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield
. Bullgryn: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield
. Bullgryn: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield
. Bullgryn: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield
. Bullgryn: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield
. Bullgryn Bone 'ead: Bullgryn Maul, Slabshield

Ministorum Priest [2 PL, 35pts]: Laspistol

+ Heavy Support +

Basilisks [13 PL, 216pts]
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter
. Basilisk: Heavy Bolter

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

Heavy Weapons Squad [3 PL, 45pts]
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar
. Heavy Weapon Team: Mortar

++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [53 PL, -3CP, 855pts] ++

+ Configuration +

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Cadian

+ Stratagems +

Imperial Commander's Armoury [-1CP]: 1 additional Heirloom of Conquest

Specialist Detachment [-1CP]: Emperor's Fist Tank Company

Tank Ace [-1CP]

+ HQ +

Tank Commander [12 PL, 199pts]: Battle Cannon, Lascannon, Plasma Cannons, Relic (Emperor's Fist): Hammer of Sunderance

Tank Commander [12 PL, 199pts]: Battle Cannon, Lascannon, Plasma Cannons

Tank Commander [12 PL, 198pts]: Heavy Bolter, Heavy Bolters, Heavy Stubber, Turret-mounted Punisher Gatling Cannon, Weapon Expert

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]
. 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]
. 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 40pts]
. 9x Guardsman
. Sergeant: Laspistol

+ Heavy Support +

Manticore [8 PL, 139pts]: Full Payload, Heavy Bolter, Hunter-Killer Missile

++ Total: [125 PL, -5CP, 1,973pts] ++

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at only 1973 points you ahve several easy options .. a third astropath (perhaps malstrom) .. or 3 plasma pistols for your squads of scions and upgrade the hsvg to 2 more plasma rifles. Giving you a bit better antiarmor punch there -- as your generic gaurdiness and mortar teams give you a decent anti-horde already.

Note INDEX ministerium priests can carry a wide variety of weapons, including plasma and powerswords, and this is a shielded, and character protected, unit that is back a bit in your lines and able to jump up to support the trolls. Er... the bullys.

Also, with six cadian gaurd, you could slap in six (18 points) grenade launchers. cadians do best shooty and this is a very diffused and gentle but useful tac weapon. and cheap. In an emergency (and using the advantages from old grudges, and cadians sitting still, and orders) 6 krak shots at s6 that reroll wounds and likely force an enemy onto his invuln shielding for d3 each, is nothing to sneeze at.