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Some 9th edition question that are not addressed in the rule book.

1) when you pile-in can you pile into a unit you didn’t declare a charge?

2) Can you attack a unit you didn’t declare a charge into so long as you can pile-in to it.

3) if all the models within 1-3” of your unit Which you charged with are already dead can you still pile-in and consolidate? (Another unit already killed them)

4) same as #3 if everything is dead can you still like in and consolidate towards the nearest enemy for extra movement.

5) can you consolidate into units you didn’t declare charges against?

broxus wrote:
Some 9th edition question that are not addressed in the rule book.

1) when you pile-in can you pile into a unit you didn’t declare a charge?

2) Can you attack a unit you didn’t declare a charge into so long as you can pile-in to it.

3) if all the models within 1-3” of your unit Which you charged with are already dead can you still pile-in and consolidate? (Another unit already killed them)

4) same as #3 if everything is dead can you still like in and consolidate towards the nearest enemy for extra movement.

5) can you consolidate into units you didn’t declare charges against?

1) Yes. You just can't attack them because you didn't declare a charge towards them. If you pile in as a "defender" (i.e. you didn't charge anything that turn), you can attack any unit you are in engagement range of.
2) No, because you charged, and charging units can only attack units they declared a charge against (or who HI'd into them).
3) Yes, because you charged with the unit.
4) Yes, because you charged with the unit.
5) Yes. The unit you consolidated into, if it didn't make it's attacks already this turn, can then attack the unit that consolidated into them.

Alrighty, one-by-one!

1) Yes, nothing stopping you. However you need to consider the consequences, per the answers in 2 and 5 below.
2) This one's a bit weird. Top of page 230 - "Attacks made by models in units that made a charge move this turn can only target enemy units that their unit declared a charge against, or that performed a Heroic Intervention this turn." Outside of that I see no restrictions, so you're actually free to attack more if you didn't charge that turn. Note that this circumstance plays well with "fight twice" stratagems.
3) the unit must be eligible to fight, in order to pile-in or consolidate. Per top of page 228 - "An eligible unit is one that is within Engagement Range of an enemy unit and/or made a charge move in the same turn." In other words - you can only still pile-in and consolidate if that unit charged.
4) Same answer, only if that unit charged.
5) Yes, as with pile-ins, nothing stopping you. Be wary though - as page 228 calls out - "after an enemy unit has fought and finished its Consolidation move, it might be that previously ineligible units now qualify as such". So the unit you consolidate into can now attack you!

BaconCatBug wrote:
2) No, because you charged, and charging units can only attack units they declared a charge against (or who HI'd into them).

Super Ready wrote:Alrighty, one-by-one!

2) This one's a bit weird. Top of page 230 - "Attacks made by models in units that made a charge move this turn can only target enemy units that their unit declared a charge against, or that performed a Heroic Intervention this turn." Outside of that I see no restrictions, so you're actually free to attack more if you didn't charge that turn. Note that this circumstance plays well with "fight twice" stratagems.

I think it is a very important distinction between units that performed a Heroic Intervention into the charging unit versus units that performed a Heroic Intervention this turn. We just had this come up with Drazhar, but it could apply to any fight twice example. Drazhar and Incubi charged a unit of Skorpekh Destroyers. The Skorpekh Lord Heroically Intervened into the Incubi to avoid Drazhar. After Drazhar fought once, we determined in his second fight he was allowed to move 3" to get into engagement range with the Lord and attack him, since the Lord performed a Heroic Intervention this turn, even though he specifically avoided Drazhar with it.

Well, yeah, you played that right. If anything, Heroic Interventions are usually meant to get your characters stuck in, hence needing to finish the move nearer to the combat - not so they can cower away from others, however appropriate that may be for Dark Eldar.

Thanks

 Super Ready wrote:

1) Yes, nothing stopping you. However you need to consider the consequences, per the answers in 2 and 5 below.

What about Engagement Range rule? Models cannot be set up within Engagement Range of enemy models.

Loac wrote:

 Super Ready wrote:

1) Yes, nothing stopping you. However you need to consider the consequences, per the answers in 2 and 5 below.

What about Engagement Range rule? Models cannot be set up within Engagement Range of enemy models.

'Setting up' models refers to when they appear on the table. Such as during deployment, or when they arrive as reinforcements, or disembark from a transport. It has nothing to do with pile-in moves. So that rule isn't relevant here.