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Have been falling down the 40k lore rabbit hole and have some ideas on what the Rangdan could have been. I found this reddit thread that has a ton of info on every reference in previous novels.
https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/cfith7/every_reference_i_could_find_to_the_rangdan/

I am trying to write a short story set during the 3rd Xenocide, and want some feed back on whether these ideas have been used in previous stories, involving lesser known xenos species. I want to avoid having an idea that has been done before, or at least not done to death. I haven’t read any books set during the heresy, so any insight involving how a legion would wage a campaign would be helpful, as well as how legionaries interact with one another.

So here are some of my theories,

1. A warp based/bacteria hybrid that can attack specific organs of biological enemies, and then can control others. The xenos/humans who are controlled are still aware of what they are doing, but no control over their bodies.
2. Human/xenos coalition(similar to the Interex) who have joined together to specifically combat the Imperium. They are the remnants, refugees of the hundreds of worlds destroyed/conquered during the early parts of the Crusade.
3. Warp entities in service of Malice. His power is based on destruction, atheism and hatred of service(slave labor). Rangdan/Malice gains power as the Imperium spreads out, forcing battle between them, only strengthens Malice even more.
4. A xenos empire where every member is a “monster” similar to The Thing(John Carpenter horror movie). They can mimic/shape change to infiltrate and overwhelm the enemy.
5. A warlike xenos species, that procreates by stealing the children of other species and slowly mutating them into new soldiers. Are meant to be a mirror to the Imperium of man.

Perhaps I could grab certain parts of each to come up with something else but any other ideas are welcomed.

The references to the Rangdan do mention the phrase 'slaugth murder-minds'

The Slaugth ARE a fairly fleshed-out thing in the Dark Heresy RPG - I have a sneaking suspicion they're essentially Rangdan survivors.
The Calixis sector is on the Northern edge of the Imperium, which is where the Xenocides took place

They are very much a scary monster, being essentially sentient maggot swarm colonies, all of which are low-grade pariahs, with a habit of wearing a "people skinsuit" to infiltrate and manipulate and a taste for Human brain matter, preferably slightly rotting.

Note this also lines up with calling the Rangdan 'Cerebravores' and that those wounded in the Xenocides inevitably have massive facial scars.


https://warhammer40k.fandom.com/wiki/Slaugth

Have you read Book 9 Crusade yet?

Oculus Imperia does an excellent in-universe perspective look at it. I'd use him as inspiration.

@Formosa no I haven’t read any of the Crusade books yet, only what I could scrounge on google.

@Iocarno24 ah thank you I knew I heard something about them before, that does seem to fit nicely with all the other bits of info I have read. Thank you

@Grimtuff haha I actually love oculus imperia’s videos. Have watched most of the Astartes legions and the history of ancient Terra and the Crusade. Didn’t realize he made this one, thanks for the heads up.

Maybe the Slaugth have lost their ability to reproduce on a grand scale, so open combat isn’t possible. But they could also mimic humans to a degree just like the Rangdan ships. A part of me also likes the idea of them being able to fully transform into a human just like the Thing creature. Thus why you would have destroy whole planets and populations just get them all.

Wasn't one of the missing legions supposedly wiped out during the Rangdan Xenocides?

I mean, I can see censorship of their existence if they were merely killed off by xenos, but imo, to have the memories of them erased from the minds of the remaining primarchs seems a bit excessive for a Legion that was simply 'wiped out'.

I think it's more fitting that there was at least some aspect of mind control, potentially a xeno infection/parasite. Maybe something like the bluegills from Star Trek TNG with the whole combination of mind control and being eaten from the inside out as the parasite matures.

I've got two images that come to mind with this: Russ holding a sword to one of the missing primarchs, with the latter barely able to strain out a "...kill me...please...", And another image with some legionaries from said missing legion being thrown in an airlock as they try to exclaim their innocence, only to be met with flamer/Melta fire with their remains being vented out into space.

If they were trying to hide the 2nd and 11th, it wasn't just 'they lost', but something about the way they lost.

Slaugth infestation controlling them is possible - if a legion was compromised wholesale, especially a primarch, the Imperium would try to sweep it under the carpet. But that doesn't really explain the primarchs agreeing to hide it from THEMSELVES.
That feels like 'the truth' - whatever it is - would threaten the entire Imperium.

Two theories spring to mind.
1) One exotic ability the Slaugth are supposed to have is extracting memories from the brain matter they consume. By complete coincidence, that capability is one of the biotech implant that make up astartes geneseed, and unlike stronger-faster-tougher isn't an obvious combat augmentation. Were the astartes compromised and vulnerable to control from day one by the use of slaugth/Rangdan biotech in their makeup, and how did that end up there if it did?

2) the emperor eventually won by 'breaking the labyrinth of night'- shorn of poetry, that means bringing out the Ctan Dragon he stashed there and using it as a weaponised super-duper-transcendant ctan, before putting it back (since it's still there as of the HH book series). Which would raise the question of the witnesses - and worse the Mechanicum - asking "WTF was that?", a question whose answer would potentially plunge Mars into civil war and undo the treaty of Olympus.

To pull out from an earlier dissection of mine on the Missing Primarchs:-

-Sanguinius was scared that the genetic flaw of the Black Thirst being revealed would cause his legion to be destroyed. The logical conclusion is that some biological flaw must have occurred regarding one of the lost legions to base that assumption on.
- Both were destroyed in between the years 30,840 (the Finding of Lion El'Jonson) & 31,560 (The Drop Site Massacre). This means that one of them was potentially destroyed before the finding of Perturabo, Mortarion, Curze, Angron, Lorgar and the Khan.
-That the Space Wolves were involved in the destruction of at least one legion.
-That one of the Primarchs was considered 'Lost' before he was even found by the Emperor. We know this because the Emperor dismissed two of the Primarchs as being a bad subject matter when he found Corax, even though he'd only found one of the Missing Primarchs at that time (according to the official BL order of finding leaked by Laurie Goulding).
-Vulkan used the word 'Sanction' when describing what happened to the Missing Primarchs. This would appear to imply at least one of them disobeyed the Emperor.
-It is stated that a Black Scroll has been dispatched by Malcador to a Legion's homeworlds only twice before, the implication being for the dissolution of a Legion.
-Book seven of the Horus Heresy says that entire Legions were lost in the Rangdan Xenocides, which took place in the 30,860's.
-Guilliman stated that two of his Brothers 'Failed' whilst the rest ''turned' on the Emperor. So it is unlikely that the two went into open rebellion against the Emperor prior to their destruction as he very clearly distinguishes between the two things.
-Cawl declares that the destroyed Legions were not at fault, nor was their geneseed, but the Primarchs (or their actions).
-There is a stated rumour that the Ultramarines grew large at the time one of the other Legions vanished. This has been stated by the author to have just been stuff he was making up as he went along and a rumour as opposed to anything canon. But still worthy of note (as the Universe exists independent of any individual author).

So. With all of those facts; we can draw up something of a hypothesis relating to both of them.

The first 'Missing' Primarch disobeyed and 'failed' the Emperor in some irrevocable way which required sanctioning/disciplining. Judging by the fact that he went missing before the finding of Corax, the timeline means that this Primarch must have been the head of the Legion destroyed during the Rangdan Xenocide.

What do we know about the Rangdan Xenocide? We know that the Space Wolves and Dark Angels had to purge the 'bio' taint of the Rangdan Cerabvores subsequently,leaving whole sectors lifeless (never the optimal solution); which means that the Rangdan Cerabvores had some way of irrevocably infecting biological organisms. As we know that this Primarch wasn't an out and out rebel (thanks Lorgar), and the Black Scroll of Doom/Ending has been delivered before, this Primarch and his Legion must have been willingly/knowingly sacrificed over the course of the campaign. Now this could be either because they were already tainted by the Rangdan Cerabvores from an earlier disobedience by the Primarch (the most likely scenario given that no other Legions were allowed to perish entirely), or that the Emperor otherwise deliberately sacrificed them because he was so hacked off at them.

Their 'sanctioning', in other words, likely took the form of a suicide run. Depending on the form that the bio-taint of the Cerabvores took (so if it involved subverting or taking control of organisms), this could potentially be where the Space Wolves gained their experience fighting other marines (exterminating their remnants).

The second Missing Primarch on the other hand, was evidently compromised before he was found. He isn't regarded as having 'turned on' the Emperor (thanks again Guilliman) likely for the very simple reason that he never joined the Emperor to begin with. Whilst the author later disclaimed the story of another legion being folded into the ultramarines; this would actually be a good reason for a Legion to have been handed a Black Scroll and disbanded. Whether it was because he was the leader of an alien confederation, had already rejected the Emperor psychically, or was warp tainted to the extreme (invent your own reason), the Emperor knew this gent was never going to be a part of the Imperium before he managed to track him down. So the ready built Legion waiting for him would have needed breaking up and dispersing.

We actually have some new fragments since this was written.

-Horus getting angry at Malcador's elimination of the statues, indicating that whatever happened to them, the other Primarchs didn't consider it dishonourable. This fits with the first missing primarch theory above, and considerably refines the latter one, as Dorn also reminisces about the two of them as being 'tragedies'. So whatever compromised the second Primarch, it wasn't something out and out distasteful to the other Primarchs. So he probably wasn't leading other armies against the Emperor or the like. He might have been warp tainted somewhow, fought the emperor in single combat, lobotomised and turned into some kind of sevitor, who knows?
-They've actually confirmed that the legionnaires of at least one of the destroyed legions were mindwiped and reassigned. This confirms what was originally just a random piece of Ultramarines gossip invented ad hoc by an author as now being canon. It also lines up well with one of the Primarchs being lost before he could join his legion.

So yes. I personally quite like the idea of a Primarch disobeying orders from the Emperor on his engagements, throwing caution to the wind in attack, and then having part of his legion corrupted and the rest biologically compromised somehow. So the Emperor sanctions him and orders a one-way mission. Missing Primarch 1 and his remaining legion fight their way in to the enemy HQ/Homeworld on a one-way trip to bring to the Xenocides to an end, knowing that they're never coming back from it but successfully settling matters. Likely with the Dragon involved somehow given that is what's implied to have resolved everything. Perhaps carrying it in a ship, or perhaps by acting as decoy force whilst the Emperor does something else with it. Missing Primarch dies in the battle. Then after the dust settles, the Space Wolves move in and mop up the comprised remains of the survivors, whilst the Missing Legion is formally dissolved with the death of the Primarch and the compromise of their gene-seed. Cut to credits.

Certainly, it fits every existing piece of available evidence on both that Missing Primarch and the Rangdan Xenocides.

After looking into the info on the Slaugth and watching the video on the xenocides, it seems that at the very least the Slaugth were somehow involved. Either as a scouting force or even special forces.

To be honest I was planning on writing the story from the point of view of a marine from the 11th legion. I just know that sometimes when you mention the lost legions people just zone out haha.

This morning I watched a great video from a favorite of mine, the critical drinker, on the 1982 The Thing, and I believe the Rangdan could have a similar physiology to the alien monster.
Here is the link to video I recommend his videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eFAgnFmHUE

Here is also the description of what a specific enemy of the Rangdan resembled, but not sure if this is correct or not.

Slaugth Vassal Construct - The vassal is a common biomechanical construct creature, animated by the Slaugth to tend devices and serve as menial labourers, guards, spies, or observers. Like most examples of Slaugth technology, its appearance inspires immediate revulsion in humanity. Though widely differing in appearance, most appear as hovering asymmetrical columns of mottled, fungal-looking flesh, shot through with pulsing veins and lattices of metal threadwork and crystalline studs. Their heads are no more than clusters of waving frond-like sensory growths, and skeletal pincer-limbs erupt from their body mass as needed.

That to me sounds similar to some of the grotesque monsters seen in the movie, and maybe even a mixture of biomechanical
Aspects from the xenomorphs in Alien franchise. Dead Space the video game could also be a fair representation.

Imagine a massive battlefield with all these floating fleshbags and hulking monstrosities making their way to a wall of Astartes’ bolters haha. That would also explain why whole systems had to be wiped out, since contamination was inevitable. So it would stand to reason that maybe one or both legions were infected, or believed to be infected, and full scale extermination is required.

Maybe the Rangdan could Osborn memories of the dead just like marines, and if one of the Primarchs was infected, his memories could be more dangerous than a regular Astarte?

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The backstory I'd written out for my 30k/40k marines was that they were the 2nd legion. In the early days of the crusade, they went alongside colony ships to new worlds sort of like the Knights Hospitaler from the crusades in our history.

What do you guys think about this as the Lore?

- The Emperor forms the IInd legion to serve as "frontiersmen" accompanying colonists to newly claimed worlds for the Imperium. They are unusually adaptable and understand how to form a civilization from scratch.

- The IInd legion find their Primarch and establish their headquarters on his homeworld in the Halo Stars. They transfer the Legion's geneseed to the planet to begin building the force.

- An unknown alien race attacks the homeworld.  The aliens are all wiped out in an apparent suicide attack; however, this is no mere xenos race... they are a xenos genestealer cult. They launch an attack on the geneseed and implant the stored organs with Tyranid DNA. The nascent IInd doesn't understand what has happened.

- As subsequent battle brothers receive recovered proginoid glands from the fallen, they begin to develop mutations.

- Initially believed to be their Legion's flaw, these mutations are tolerated. After all, the Thousand Sons randomly burst into monsters. The Space Wolves turn into wolfmen sometimes. What difference does an extra arm and/or skull ridges make, anyway?

- The famed Apothecary, Fabius of the IIIrd legion, was called in secret for aid. Could he undo the genetic curse? Some say this opened his eyes to the heresy of tampering with the geneseed of the Legions.

- Fabius recommends the Primarch to take the same curse as has befallen his legion. This gives him an even greater control over his astartes and, Fabius believes, the ability to reform through one of his marines should he ever fall. The Primarch takes the curse and damns his legion. They will never forgive Fabius for his treachery.

- The Ist legion, the Dark Angels, do not look so favorably on these mutations. The changes remind them of the beasts the pre-legion knights would slay on their homeworld. They report the mutations and commit open war against the IInd.

- The Emperor sends his Wolves to assist the Dark Angels to eradicate the IInd. Their genetic taint has spread to a vast area of stars known as the "Cursed Imperium." Three crusades are launched to cull the alien halfbreeds. Their cost was too great to cover up so a lie had to be made of the truth. The history of these wars would be rewritten by the remembrancers and referred to as "The Rangdan Xenocides." (Actual Lore).

- The Cursed Imperium persisted in the Halo Stars region of space. The stories you hear of the many Xenos species in the area are actually exaggerqtes tales of the descendants of the IInd. For instance, the Slaughth.

- The IInd eked out an existance in those blighted stars and has rebuilt to legion strength. And the IInd Primarch wishes to spread his "gift" to humanity thereby replacing the Emperor of Mankind with absolute control over humanity. The Gift's Tyranid origins does draw hivefleets but it also has a dampening effect on the warp.  To save Humanity from Chaos, the IInd will free it with "The Gift."

Long read, yes. But does it check out? What do you think?

All fanon of the 2nd/11th Legions is bad, and that's no exception.

I think having fluff of the lost legions saying "ignore all the scraps of lore, genestealers did it" isn't too inspiring to me at least.

There's a comment in the novel Clonelord where Fabius Bile's zippy little frigate Vesalius is passing the Ymga Monolith when a couple of Emperor's Children comment about how one of the missing Primarchs wasn't the same after going into it. I noticed elsewhere (9th edition rulebook maybe?) that the Ymga Monolith is a Necron artifact, and it seems like the Necron threat is essentially so great as to make the Great Crusade seem meaningless. After all, the Necrons can enter the Webway and come after you in there...

Really interesting thread to read.

I would love to have a go at making the Rangdan in 6mm for Epic, to go up against my Great Crusade era Legion forces.

So far, in terms of an descriptions of the units I have read (are all of these from 'canon' sources?)
- Great big swarms of roiling maggots.
- Shapeshifting/changeling-type units (or are they body-hijacked?). Maybe units of guardsmen or marines with weird growths and poses would be one way to represent these. Could also have a rule where certain Rangdan units can 'take over' defeated enemy units and repurpose them for their own side?
- Giant floating gross mushroom things?! Or some other large biomechanical construct? This could be the armour or even war engine equivalent.

The maggot description is referring to the Slaugth, which might have affiliation or an alliance with the Crab Rangdans but aren't actually that themselves.

I'm going to take this a completely different direction (this is about 57% serious).

What limited information is known about the Rangdan Xenocide is all 100% false. It wasn't even a Xenocide. They wiped out a (mostly) human empire. One that had already basically accomplished what the Emperor wanted to do...and did it much better.

So, the Lion is tooling about on the wild fringes of space because he's heard about a "Great Star Federation" out there. And, he finds them pretty easily because this federation is always looking to make new friends. This society is ultra high tech and has been painstakingly built over several centuries. It's a true utopia (one the the 40K universe could never allow to last). This slice of space is so nice even the warp is a warm and gentle place because the citizens of this "federation" are all genuinely happy and contented people. The society is comprised of humans and aliens/nonhumans/xenos...and like I said, they're all as truly happy as members of a free society can be (individual misery always possible...but everybody takes care of everybody).

Now, because the Lion's out there looking for another "great empire" he's brought the majority of the 2nd and 11th legions along with the 1st. He's able to swing this because he's still the #1 Golden Boy at this time and neither of the primarchs of the 2nd and 11th have been found yet (more on this later).

So, first contact happens and the "Federation" is friendly and welcoming, but concerned about the obviously warlike nature of the Crusade. The Lion is a little shocked at the legitimate utopia he's found. How did these people (and these "things") build such a remarkable society?

Funny story...so this federation was already doing pretty well out here on the fringe (like the Interex) when all of a sudden a couple of capsules dropped out of the warp (this happened a couple hundred years ago, due to timey-wimey-warp-shenanigans). One landed on a human planet, one landed on the planet of an allied alien species. What do you know...they're primarchs. And, they're two of the "good" ones...like Vulcan or Corax or Guilliman. And, as they tend to do, these two good primarchs, taught from birth about the ideals of their society in the best schools and environments, lead their Federation to new heights...finally achieving the Federation's dreams of a legitimately perfect society (even Eldar join up because it's so awesome! and they hate everything!). Since they are primarchs bred for war (even though they're two of the nicest and most decent Primarchs) and there are orks and all kinds of other nastiness out there, this federation maintains a highly advanced defensive fleet...one that's ridiculously, embarrassingly, advanced compared to the mechanicum's stuff.

And the Lion meets his two lost brothers. And they talk. And it does not go well at all. Because the Lion is an overbearing, zealous, secretive, dick, who threatens "join or die"...and the brothers are a couple of decent guys who have crafted a multi-species star-utopia (one that doesn't even have a dirty secret!). The brothers tell the Lion and his host that, while they're welcome to visit anytime, there is absolutely zero chance of their federation joining the Imperium. You can't just...massacre and conquer people and expect them to love you, you know?

The Lion, being the Lion, gets all insulted and gives the "join or else" ultimatum. The brothers choose "else".

So the shooting starts and, to no one's surprise who's ever read anything about the 40K universe, the 2nd and 11th legions (being genetically predisposed to being like their primarchs in nature...so these are two "nice" legions...immediately defect and join their primarchs in defense of their newfound utopia. That's not good for the Lion. So, although the Crusade fleet vastly outnumbers the Lost primarch's federation, they get routed and have to flee. Not being vindictive, once the Lion retreats from their space the federation lets them go (BIG mistake).

We've got the Lion super pissed because he just got routed by a couple of xenos-hugging administrators (and embarrassed that he just lost two full legions) and the mechanicum outraged that they've been so "out teched"...so they start bringing together all the resources they can to attack the federation in earnest. And, together with the Wolves (and the eventually Emperor himself), they do. [insert long and horrible war where the Lost Primarch's federation is eventually overwhelmed by the non-stop brutality of the Crusade...the Emperor also gives a last "join or die" ultimatum...to which the primarchs of the 2nd and 11th reply "Go feth yourself, dad")]. Due to the circumstances of his lost sons making a better empire than he ever could, the (jealous and petty) Emperor authorizes the use of weapons that remove things from reality in such a manner that people's memory of them is removed too (including his two "Lost" Sons). So, it's long and bloody...but the Imperium wins and the utopian federation (and the 2nd and 11th legions and their primarchs) is literally erased from existence/memory.

The Emperor and Malcador then muck up the memories of the remaining 18 primarchs (especially concerning the whens and wheres of the 2nd/11th legions and their primarchs) and craft a crazy tale about what happened out there (since nobody really remember who they were fighting because of the "reality erasing" weapons that were used.) Can't be too specific though...if you're too specific holes in the story can be found.

And there's your story about what happend at the "Rangdan Xenocides".

Once again the head canon is awful

Why? What's so awful about it?

I'd like if Rangdan were a Chaos play, sort of anti-IoM Imperium. Chaos fueled Imperium of Rangdan that started their own great crusade urged by Chaos Gods, to give a sort of Zugzwang to the Emperor - either he can throw all the forces he has on Rangdans (which means sending problematic primarchs like Kurze or Angron to fight immediately without trying to fix them, either against Rangdans themselves or on fronts abandoned by more reliable forces) leading to HH down the line, or Chaos wins because Rangdans will conquer the galaxy.

It would make at once Chaos Gods less of a bumbling idiots unable to spot threat (and relying on really convoluted, easy to stop plan HH was, really) and fix the issue of Emperor being stupid despite his prophetic powers (I really hate inept ways GW tried to solve it, him just picking best of terrible options would work so much better). It would also have benefit of explaining why great crusade was so urgent (once the Emperor made primarchs, Chaos reacted immediately and both sides were racing to the goal) and why DA and SW were chosen to fight them (both being sort of anti-Chaos legions) and why every single Rangdan or their slave had to be purged so thoroughly.

 Skinflint Games wrote:
Why? What's so awful about it?

The tone, mainly. When you're writing you want to align the 'ethos, pathos, and logos' I don't know if you've seen the YT series Orcs with Normal Voices, but some of the head-canon here reads like that sounds.

jbuck wrote:
I'm going to take this a completely different direction (this is about 57% serious).

What limited information is known about the Rangdan Xenocide is all 100% false.

So.....your 'theory' for your project is to say 'You know that thing that happened? It didn't. Instead there was this awesome peaceful noblebright 'Federation' who prefer peace and living long and prospering, etcetc...'

I mean, seriously? This is basically like saying 'Contrary to everything you've read, Ferrus Manus wasn't really a Primarch or called Ferrus; he was really a super-powered cyborg controlled by Skynet and was the T-9000'. A.k.a. Dubious fanfic crossovers TM.

It's not so much head canon as it is completely rewriting with dubious homages to other series. And if you want to do that, why bother re-appropriating the Xenocides at all? Just go write your own little Heresy-era event on the fringes of the Great Crusade. I mean, the name's all you're taking from the actual lore, so why not go the whole hog?

 Ketara wrote:

jbuck wrote:
I'm going to take this a completely different direction (this is about 57% serious).

What limited information is known about the Rangdan Xenocide is all 100% false.

So.....your 'theory' for your project is to say 'You know that thing that happened? It didn't. Instead there was this awesome peaceful noblebright 'Federation' who prefer peace and living long and prospering, etcetc...'

I mean, seriously? This is basically like saying 'Contrary to everything you've read, Ferrus Manus wasn't really a Primarch or called Ferrus; he was really a super-powered cyborg controlled by Skynet and was the T-9000'. A.k.a. Dubious fanfic crossovers TM.

It's not so much head canon as it is completely rewriting with dubious homages to other series. And if you want to do that, why bother re-appropriating the Xenocides at all? Just go write your own little Heresy-era event on the fringes of the Great Crusade. I mean, the name's all you're taking from the actual lore, so why not go the whole hog?

That's not rewriting, let alone anything close to rewriting something major. It's pointing to a very shady part of the history that absolutely looks like it could be a cover-up... and then saying it's a cover-up.

I mean, come on, dude, you have to be joking if you think Ferrus Manus not being a Primarch has the same lore implications as "This mysterious event that no one talks about, with all the records sealed but that had huge numbers fighting in it... wasn't what the authoritarian dictatorship said it was."

It seems to me that the idea of it being a cover-up for another unanswered question makes perfect sense as head cannon. Plus, it seems fundamentally grimdark to think a genuinely nice federation of Xenos and Man existed... and was wiped out. That's super grimdark, far more than "There was a big war against evil aliens, we don't talk about it."

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
The maggot description is referring to the Slaugth, which might have affiliation or an alliance with the Crab Rangdans but aren't actually that themselves.

Crabs! Hmm... Any thoughts on how these would appear, just some sort of armoured exo-skeleton with lots of legs? Does the source give any more information?

Am also struggling to think how roiling waves of maggots could be represented in 6mm, without it just looking like a blob of something (vomit?) on a base