Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
Times and dates in your local timezone.
Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.
Well I really disliked the tedious standalone Godzilla movie but loved Skull Island so not sure on this one.
Seems back to slow fat Godzilla
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Seems like they should've set some of that up (like the random kid) in the other movies. Or maybe they did, and it was lost in the mess? An ancient grudge match from made up monster mythos is a good enough reason for giant monster battlin', but it isn't exactly deep.
But it also seems like Godzilla could rip open the sea transport from the underneath and drown Kong like a sack of dumb puppies. When all is said and done, one is a radioactive giant sea lizard that zwoops around the world through magic sea holes, and the other is a just a mega-oversized ape.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/01/24 22:59:55
Voss wrote: Seems like they should've set some of that up (like the random kid) in the other movies. Or maybe they did, and it was lost in the mess? An ancient grudge match from made up monster mythos is a good enough reason for giant monster battlin', but it isn't exactly deep.
But it also seems like Godzilla could rip open the sea transport from the underneath and drown Kong like a sack of dumb puppies. When all is said and done, one is a radioactive giant sea lizard that zwoop around the world through magic sea holes, and the other is a just a mega-oversized ape.
I did wonder about the kid - unless they are part of the time jump in the film?
It does seem very one sided (or should be)
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
I also really enjoyed Skull Island but I thought the 2 Godzilla movies were absolute trash. Waiting 2 hours to see 10 minutes of monster action? No thanks. This will probably be the same. Pacific Rim remains the only movie in this vein to keep me entertained throughout its runtime.
creeping-deth87 wrote: I also really enjoyed Skull Island but I thought the 2 Godzilla movies were absolute trash. Waiting 2 hours to see 10 minutes of monster action? No thanks.
Probably. The trailer looks wildly out of order. I could totally see half the run time devoted to 'capturing' Kong, and putting him on the barge (he is in conveniently giant chains), some general yadda, yadda exposition, the barge scene, then a buildup to whatever final confrontation in whichever city where kong's sceptre? club? mirror? just magically absorbs radiation breath. With a half hour or so to establish what's _really_ going on and deal with that, Batman V Superman style.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/01/24 23:04:47
I'm still guessing most of the battle scenes in the trailer are a skinned Mecha-Godzilla. Or these are early battle scenes and when mecha-godzilla goes crazy they "team up" to kill it. Otherwise there needs to be some kind of compelling reason that Godzilla goes murderous, rather than benevolent.
Voss, Kong's weapon is a primitive axe made from one of Godzilla's dorsal spikes, hence the breath-absorbing abilities.
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2021/01/25 03:19:07
"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
AegisGrimm wrote: I'm still guessing most of the battle scenes in the trailer are a skinned Mecha-Godzilla. Or these are early battle scenes and when mecha-godzilla goes crazy they "team up" to kill it. Otherwise there needs to be some kind of compelling reason that Godzilla goes murderous, rather than benevolent.
Voss, Kong's weapon is a primitive axe made from one of Godzilla's dorsal spikes, hence the breath-absorbing abilities.
Ah. I wasn't aware.
Wait, doesn't big G's breath still have enough kinetic energy to knock down buildings? Where does _that_ go?
Its certainly pushing other monsters around in KotM, here's its just vanishing without any effect whatsoever. No heat transfer, no kinetic, nothing.
Having it just vanish really undercuts the scene and highlights that it's a bunch of CGI nonsense, rather than pushing the story that these are a pair of massive colossi of destruction.
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2021/01/25 05:56:27
So Godzilla's going to turn heel? They note that 'something is agitating him' so probably there is some other factor at play "oh it wasn't really Godzilla's fault after all".
I liked first Godzilla and Skull Island because they had the patience to actually set up things. Second 'zilla was just a lame random monster mash-up and this looks more of a same. No kids for the monster flicks!
Voss wrote: Seems like they should've set some of that up (like the random kid) in the other movies. Or maybe they did, and it was lost in the mess?
Honestly, my main takeaway from King of the Monsters was that they were setting up a Kong vs Godzilla bout with all the subtlety of a wrestling promo:
G:KotM spoilers:
Spoiler:
The central maguffin in KotM is a device that calms down or intimidates giant monsters by emitting a sound, which the heroes and villains intend to use to pacify the giant monsters or use them to anihilate civilization. Godzilla (and King Ghidora) instead respond aggressively to it, because the sound is imitating an 'alpha' cowing an oponent into submission, and both Godzilla and Ghidora consider themselves top dog.
The project originally didn't work, but one scientist solved the problem by adding human voice modulation to the sound - which her husband, another scientist, of course, needs to figure out to save the day (with help from their daughter, the Child of Destiny). The 'human' connection is baffling to the people in-universe, but as an outside observer it's pretty clear that that change made the alpha device sound like Kong.
That, plus little bits of exospeak throughout the movie to establish that Skull Island is in continuity with it (Skull Island is confirmed to exist, Kong is confirmed to be one of the Titans Monarch is monitoring, Kong is said to be 'growing', etc) makes it clear that either Kong is an alpha already, or is becoming an alpha due to Science meddling with what it does not understand (tm), and Godzilla has beef.
Seems to have a lot of the same issues as the previous movies (namely a love for fighting in a bizarrely shallow ocean or in an overly dark and rainy city). Still, I'll watch and enjoy it, even if it doesn't reach its full potential.
creeping-deth87 wrote: I also really enjoyed Skull Island but I thought the 2 Godzilla movies were absolute trash. Waiting 2 hours to see 10 minutes of monster action? No thanks. This will probably be the same. Pacific Rim remains the only movie in this vein to keep me entertained throughout its runtime.
You must have watched a different GKotM than me.
Also, lots of focus on humans until the monsters fight at the end describes almost every Toho Godzilla film. You certainly don't have to like that, but it is what it is.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Backfire wrote: So Godzilla's going to turn heel? They note that 'something is agitating him' so probably there is some other factor at play "oh it wasn't really Godzilla's fault after all".
There are strong hints in the trailer if you look closely. Like pretty much a spoiler, so let the close viewer beware.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/01/25 16:43:07
I predict it's only Godzilla vs Kong for the first half of the movie, then they realize they have to team up and be friends so they can kill some other big bad that suddenly shows up.
For me the question is - is this another Skull Island (Hurrah) or another Godzilla style film (God forbid). They are incredably different films
The Godzilla films are current day ish right?
So I assume at least part of the new film addresses the time jump with Kong?
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Mr Morden wrote: For me the question is - is this another Skull Island (Hurrah) or another Godzilla style film (God forbid). They are incredably different films
I haven't seen Skull Island, but Godzilla (2014) and King of the Monsters aren't really alike in style what so ever.
So I assume at least part of the new film addresses the time jump with Kong?
Godzilla certainly is, with its central premise being 'modern world reacts to a Godzilla Vs movie happening' but KotM is set in a bizzaro modern day where NGOs are building super planes the size of aircraft carriers and the like. But unless Kong was killed at some point in Skull Island I see no reason the one they talk about in KotM is a different giant gorilla with the same name living on the same island?
Necros wrote: I predict it's only Godzilla vs Kong for the first half of the movie, then they realize they have to team up and be friends so they can kill some other big bad that suddenly shows up.
Does Wonder Woman inexplicably show up to help too?
We find comfort among those who agree with us - growth among those who don't. - Frank Howard Clark
The wise man doubts often, and changes his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubts not; he knows all things but his own ignorance.
The correct statement of individual rights is that everyone has the right to an opinion, but crucially, that opinion can be roundly ignored and even made fun of, particularly if it is demonstrably nonsense!” Professor Brian Cox
Necros wrote: I predict it's only Godzilla vs Kong for the first half of the movie, then they realize they have to team up and be friends so they can kill some other big bad that suddenly shows up.
Does Wonder Woman inexplicably show up to help too?
She'd kick both their asses Would be fun though
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Necros wrote: I predict it's only Godzilla vs Kong for the first half of the movie, then they realize they have to team up and be friends so they can kill some other big bad that suddenly shows up.
Does Wonder Woman inexplicably show up to help too?
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Wait, doesn't big G's breath still have enough kinetic energy to knock down buildings? Where does _that_ go?
Harlequins 2k
Chaos Knights 2k
Spiderfangs 2k
Ossiarch Bonereapers 1k 
5000pts 
6000pts 
3000pts
