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Toronto

I thought I'd give slaanesh a quick try but in the 10 or so games I've played my keepers always seem to melt by turn 3 (I run 3+1) and my daemonettes just kind of die afterwards. What's the general strategy for playing a slaanesh list in the meta right now? I think I'm approaching playing this army from the wrong direction.

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Imperial Knights: 12,500 Points
Legio Titanicus: 5,500 Points
Slaaneshi Daemons: 3,800 Points
 
   
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'






Do you have enough terrain to hide the KoS ? What army melts the 3 and the fourth named one that easily ? Do you 0lay against stuff that ignores invuls ?

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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh




Are you insistent that you play pure mono slaanesh?

I'm just beginning to use my Slaanesh army but, I trying to mix in some CSM in my army. You don't have enough/any ranged attacks in a pure army and with 3 KoSs and Shalaxi you don't really have enough troops to play the mission. I use 1 KoS and Shalaxi with a Daemon Prince leading my CSM. I use the daemons as HtH and the CSM as the shooty part of my army.

   
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Definitely try some soup if you have access to it. The way 9th is going it could end up a poor short term (next 2+ years) decision to buy into it now given the anti soup design direction they've gone with.

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Longtime Dakkanaut






Toronto

 Eldarain wrote:
Definitely try some soup if you have access to it. The way 9th is going it could end up a poor short term (next 2+ years) decision to buy into it now given the anti soup design direction they've gone with.


Seems that way unfortunately. I've been playing a lot of space marines, eradicators in the back some dreads in the front and whoop guess my keepers are gone. I was going to start slaanesh daemons anyways, so buying in isn't an issue, but I want to avoid having to run nurgle if possible. If I'm honest I can't play with my Slaanesh in tournaments anyways (entirely raging heroes/creature caster models) so it's not a big deal if they end up becoming dog, I just hope that I can play them the best I can.

Adepta Sororitas: 3,800 Points
Adeptus Custodes: 8,100 Points
Adeptus Mechanicus: 8,400 Points
Alpha Legion: 4,400 Points
Astra Militarum: 7,500 Points
Dark Angels: 16,800 Points
Imperial Knights: 12,500 Points
Legio Titanicus: 5,500 Points
Slaaneshi Daemons: 3,800 Points
 
   
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Slaanesh daemons are generally considered pretty strong right now. Exalted benefits, invuln saves and speed make the keepers of secrets pretty solid. it is a glass cannon list, for sure, but maybe check out a few recent tournament games involving them and I'm guessing you'll be able to figure out some tricks with them.

General strategy for slaanesh daemons involves surviving early shooting using Obscuring terrain, and later shooting by holding enemies in combat primarily using mechanics like fiends, the epitome, and the forbidden gem (which prevents movement and therefore fall back).


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https://warp-hammer.com/2020/10/23/win-excessively-with-slaanesh/ This looks like a solid place to start.

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If you play KoS, you need to take 3 plus Shalaxi, and "Exalt" the three vanilla KoS so they basically can't get killed within one turn. Also, you need 3 units of 5 Fiends, and that “mirror carrying Damonettes” they stop enemy falling back.

Ofc you need to charge into enemy line asap, and as Slaanesh Daemon you can even make a T1 charge easily given the fact that now the board is smaller than before. Tie up your opponent and kill them in their turn is important, that is where your Fiends and mirror daemon are here for. You may want your KoS to be closer to these "Jamming units", as they may want to: 1 charge into a unit, killed it, then 2 consolidate into the enemy unit being jammed by the fiends or the mirror. Then you are in a very good place, and may be able to proceed to kill more than half of your enemy army in T2, if you are lucky, your opponent will be tabled before T4. All the while, your MSU Daemonette will be sitting on objectives raising the banner high.

Good luck and Enjoy
   
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh




I don't see how you can "exalt" 3 Keepers. The strategy says specifically that it can only be used on 1 keeper and must be used before the battle begins. I'm pretty sure that you're limited to 1 use of the strategy per battle.

Also, even if you are taking units of fiends (15 total) with no blissbringers and using just 40 daemonettes (4x10) with no musicians and/or banners you are over the 2000 point threshold.

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NJ, USA

You can exalt as many as you wish, but each one only once. Prebattle stratagems can be used as many times as you like. Most of my daemons lists start with about 2CP after exalts and extra relics.

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What Verthane said. Some RAW players tried to claim, when the exalted rules first came out, that you could pay 6 CP per GD and take all 6. It's only one per GD but you can Exalt any/all/none.

So yeah, you can have 3 exalted Keepers and Shalaxi. You just can't have 3 exalted Keepers with 3 or 4 or 6 traits.

Also, all the traits are pretty good so me personally I'd roll the 2 randos vs picking 1.
   
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jivardi wrote:


Also, all the traits are pretty good so me personally I'd roll the 2 randos vs picking 1.


100%!

For great unclean ones or bloodthirsters I prefer to choose (4+ ignore wounds or 8 wound cap, in order), but they balanced them much better for Tzeentch and Slaanesh, so I prefer to roll and get two for those.

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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh




The last game I played I rolled for my Keeper and got a 5 and a 6. They are the worst choices, IMHO and I think I'll just play it safe for now on and go with the 4++.
   
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In regards to demon soup, can you reserve summoning points, summon up the fine denizens of the Warp and not have those summoned units counter-act, let say....contagion abilities?
   
 
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