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Just finished binging the first three available episodes of this last night. Really good so far, but boy am I glad I waited until the kids were asleep before watching it!!

Not necessarily a spoiler, but be prepared for a "slight" tone shift towards the end of the first episode, and then on, lol.

Lol, perfect. So it's exactly the comic then!

Ha yeah just watched ep1 - can confirm the slight tonal shift

It’s not a 1:1 of the comics. It’s got the right tone, and the overall story is following the same path, but the individual events aren’t playing out the same. The major differences I’ve seen so far in the first two episodes;

Episode One:


Episode Two:


I am super enjoying the series so far though. Everything is still quite good.

Yeah, the show has changes but the changes are like MCU changes. Good changes that expand on things or make small adjustments to make a thing more interesting then it would be otherwise.

I'm pumped both that it's not a 1 for 1 with the comic and that it's keeping the important things done so well.

So I can already kinda guess what the beats are with Omniman

On episode 3.

It’s really rather good. And given it’s sort of anime stylings, it must be good if I’m enjoying it.

I’ve nothing against anime as such, it just usually leaves me cold. But this? Actively enjoying it.

Eh. Combines a genre that's done to death, with a core crutch (ultraviolence) that got old about the third season of game of thrones, and a lead source material writer whose best known work (walking dead) I got utterly bored of in both TV show and comics form...I'll probably give it a miss.

I don't really feel like the narrative and character development of Teen Titans would have been greatly improved if every time Beast Boy got punched he squirted out sixteen quarts of raspberry jelly and Robin got killed in the third episode after setting up all his interpersonal relationships and conflicts and then the show just moved on without ever resolving them.

the_scotsman wrote:
Eh. Combines a genre that's done to death, with a core crutch (ultraviolence) that got old about the third season of game of thrones, and a lead source material writer whose best known work (walking dead) I got utterly bored of in both TV show and comics form...I'll probably give it a miss.

I don't really feel like the narrative and character development of Teen Titans would have been greatly improved if every time Beast Boy got punched he squirted out sixteen quarts of raspberry jelly and Robin got killed in the third episode after setting up all his interpersonal relationships and conflicts and then the show just moved on without ever resolving them.

Watch what you want to watch, by all means. But this is not an accurate assessment of Invincible the comic or the show.

Invincible more than anything is character driven, not violence driven. The comic went for years following Mark through his ups and downs. Yes, the violence is there. But the violence is there to add weight to the situations he is getting into. The stakes are real. The injuries are real. The deaths are real. And it takes this world of capes and super heroics and gives it an edge of... war? It's traumatic. And you see what this kind of trauma can do to people. Game of thrones has people die, yes. But their deaths rarely have personal trauma for those around them. It's more about how their deaths impact a political landscape. Arya goes on a revenge quest, but did you ever see her actually break from so many family deaths in so short a period of time? Sansa walks out the other end just as well put together. About the only person who, for a time, suffers any actual trauma for suffering is Reek.

Invincible is personal. Even if someone looses and eye and replaces it there tends to be some fall out from the idea that they lost an eye. (I mean, not the weird clone guys. I am talking about the actual characters we are following).

I have one huge gripe with the animation. Why did they change Atom Eve's chest symbol from.... well an atom around the female symbol to just X'ing it out like some kind of weird "no girls allowed" sign? I had to go back and check that that wasn't something I'd forgotten from the comics.

Overall, its pretty good. I'm probably in for the first season, but I never really fell in love with the comics and I doubt that will change here. It's a fun series with some loveable characters, but the world never really hooked me.

 LunarSol wrote:
I have one huge gripe with the animation. Why did they change Atom Eve's chest symbol from.... well an atom around the female symbol to just X'ing it out like some kind of weird "no girls allowed" sign? I had to go back and check that that wasn't something I'd forgotten from the comics.

Overall, its pretty good. I'm probably in for the first season, but I never really fell in love with the comics and I doubt that will change here. It's a fun series with some loveable characters, but the world never really hooked me.

As someone who hasn't read the comics, I really didn't understand that, either.

As for the violence, I really think it's more of a "visceral and graphic" type rather than the pure shlock gratuitousness of The Boys. Laser guns kill people. Ones mounted on tanks, even more so, especially when shot into crowds. If you take someone with enough superhuman strength to move buildings, and they want to kill someone with less toughness, it's gonna be visceral.

The only real violence thing that got me was the invaders coming in and shooting executing civilians. Their whole thing in the comics was capturing a slave workforce, so it doesn’t really make sense for them. That might be one of the things that changes though.

There are a few scenes where her symbol is the Atom.
It's just they are lazy sometimes

I like it so far.

A lot of times animated shows have multiple companies working on them. One main team creates the character designs and design sheets and might block out sequences and such. Then, another team, often in another part of the world, does all the in the middle animating frames.

This is where a lot of animation errors come from. Her chest symbol could be just that. One person started with her character from a distance where it looks like an X and then just assumed it was an X for all subsequent frames they were responsible for drawing.

It's almost certainly something like that. Still, the keyframe animator shouldn't have let that slide. Their whole job is to ensure things remain on model with the concept sketches.

I will say, the fight with Doctor Seismic was hilarious.
"Undergrad in Sociology and Gender Studies"
Got me laughing for how matter of factly it was stated.

Latest episode was pretty good. Fight scenes are pretty great. It all seems to be hitting the fan now though

Yeah. I am continuing to watch it. The changes from the source material all seem to serve better story telling. Really enjoying it so far.

 Lance845 wrote:
Yeah. I am continuing to watch it. The changes from the source material all seem to serve better story telling. Really enjoying it so far.

What are some of the changes? I've seen some "Damn SJW" complaints about, but I'm not really thinking I want to take their word for anything.

On the whole I think it's great. I remember almost nothing about this comic but that I did read it at some point ages ago. The series kind of embraces the wackiness of comic book superheroes while at the same time playing some thing a bit more straight than the conventions of the genre normally have.

 LordofHats wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
Yeah. I am continuing to watch it. The changes from the source material all seem to serve better story telling. Really enjoying it so far.

What are some of the changes? I've seen some "Damn SJW" complaints about, but I'm not really thinking I want to take their word for anything.

On the whole I think it's great. I remember almost nothing about this comic but that I did read it at some point ages ago. The series kind of embraces the wackiness of comic book superheroes while at the same time playing some thing a bit more straight than the conventions of the genre normally have.

Mostly they are expanding on things.

The wife/mom is barely a character in the first major story. She doesn't get her career until after the husband/dad does some stuff he hasn't done yet.

Any SJW stuff is a dumb ass thing to complain about. It would be things like how Rex is now... hispanic? Where as in the comic he was a pale as gak red headed probably irish guy. But when a characters race isn't part of their character who gives a gak?

The fights are some times expanded on in really interesting ways. Like Nolan killing the Guardians doesn't end with him going to a hospital. It's so one sided the entire time in the comic it's not even really a fight. But because he had to go to the hospital, the whole investigation thing kicks off with more evidence. Which also brings in the story of the wife doing her own little investigation. All of which isn't in the comic in any way that matters like it does in the show.

Everyone is just way more fleshed out and it results in more interesting story beats along the same trajectory of the original comic.

Still enjoying it. Still know nothing about the source material.

It’s going to the same place, but taking an occasionally different side road to get there. The main difference is in the comics no one saw the betrayal coming. Government Dude made plans for it or something like it, but didn’t really expect it and there was no investigation of him or series of roadblocks thrown in the way like we saw here. Iirc he goes to talk to his kid, no government interference, Immortal shows up under the same sort of circumstances, Nolan kills him again, and that causes the conversation with his kid to... not go well. And then the world knew.

The show's quality is still a bit all over the place (I have no idea what's with the low rez render of the high school they sometimes use to establish location. It's really jarringly bad) but on the whole it's improving. The latest episode is the first that felt really good on the whole in a while with the different bits of the plot coming together more effectively than I remember in the original. Not sure I'll care beyond the resolution of the first story arc, but I'm looking forward to seeing it play out regardless.

Oh, I noticed the icon on Eve’s chest continues to switch back and forth between electrons and an X.

I didn't notice that this was a new thread and wanted to avoid harping on that. Drives me absolutely nuts. The "no girls allowed" version had me very confused for a bit until I remembered what it was supposed to look like.

I think most of what bothers me is that the action is rarely visually interesting. It's very comic panel static with spikes of gore. I suppose that's fairly source accurate, but there's not a lot of tension behind any of them. The mob boss fight is probably the one that most stands out as potentially interesting, but kind of turns into a Rocky slugfest that lacks the sense of personal stakes that made those interesting.

 LunarSol wrote:
I think most of what bothers me is that the action is rarely visually interesting. It's very comic panel static with spikes of gore. I suppose that's fairly source accurate, but there's not a lot of tension behind any of them. The mob boss fight is probably the one that most stands out as potentially interesting, but kind of turns into a Rocky slugfest that lacks the sense of personal stakes that made those interesting.

I can see what you mean here.

The most recent episode especially kind of hammers home the very 'by the numbers' combat and how it really really wants to hammer home on the gore. Like, episode 8 actually goes so far at some points it's hard to even remotely take it seriously. Initially I liked the idea of a super hero battle that acknowledge smashing buildings and subways would have lots of collateral loss of life, but at a point it became kind of over the top and a bit cringy.

See, I kinda like it.
Episode 8 drove home just how screwed everyone is against Omni man. I mean hold his son up to the train like that it just not phasing either of them.
How his own species couldn't stand up to him and there are even more out there.

Just horrifyingly brutal. So yeah, with this being a season finale, I went back to the comics to see how far in they are. The first season covers the first three trades of the series, out of twenty five volumes. They’ve been green lot for seasons two and three already I’m seeing. If they keep to the same pace we’ve got a good eight seasons of material, so a ways to go.

As someone who really didn't know anything about Invincible except that it was a comic I gotta say I thoroughly enjoyed it. Glad it was renewed for 2 more seasons.