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I want to give my hell blasters to my friend that I play each month, for use in his 1kSons Army, as an attached unit of DW Fallen Hellblasters. But I can't find the rules or FAQs that govern what can or cannot be Fallen units?
   
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I believe that they are about to release a White Dwarf with brand new Fallen rules in it.
   
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So there is no current playable rules for Fallen?
   
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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
So there is no current playable rules for Fallen?


Yes, there are, Codex CSM.
You can make preciscly one vanguard detachment with Cypher and 3 squads of fallen.

As of right now, the next WD will bring an index, which can range from basically reimplementing Vigilus formation which allwed sorcerers and rhinos to a lot better, but still probably tied to oldmarines.

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So fallen are CSM, and not Dark Angels? I really screwed up then, because I thought they were this baddassed way to include a det of DA into any chaos list.
   
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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
So fallen are CSM, and not Dark Angels? I really screwed up then, because I thought they were this baddassed way to include a det of DA into any chaos list.


Well, yesn't
See the problem is what a faction/ subfaction should be and what they are.
FWIW, fallen are basically chosen and cypher is... ok i guess.

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A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
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So can a detachment of Fallen be Hellblasters? Or are fallen a specific unit?
   
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FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
So can a detachment of Fallen be Hellblasters? Or are fallen a specific unit?


Fallen are an elite choice of IMPERIUM, CHAOS, FALLEN.
they are basically chosen wich if they stand still can reroll 1's naturally.

So no, you can't use anything from the loyalist dex.
And indeed even if you could primaris would not be among the fallen.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2021/04/27 12:18:09


https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/766717.page
A Mostly Renegades and Heretics blog.
GW:"Space marines got too many options to balance, therefore we decided to legends HH units."
Players: "why?!? Now we finally got decent plastic kits and you cut them?"
Chaos marines players: "Since when are Daemonengines 30k models and why do i have NO droppods now?"
GW" MONEY.... erm i meant TOO MANY OPTIONS (to resell your army to you again by disalowing former units)! Do you want specific tyranid fighiting Primaris? Even a new sabotage lieutnant!"
Chaos players: Guess i stop playing or go to HH.  
   
 
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